Bears 12.0

[dice]

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To the people complaining, we need our picks. We have holes

the bears won 5 games in part because they wasted draft picks in trades for guys like montez sweat ('cause we SO needed a good EDGE in the middle of a lost season). and chase claypool (because we were desperate for a WR upgrade to see if fields could throw the ball...in a TANK season)

hey, maybe those short-sighted trades cost us parsons. food for thought

[dice]

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What a way to piss in the entire NFC North’s Cheerios….

One player shouldn’t be so deflating, but Khalil Mack did put the Bears defense on another level..

the whole defense put the bears defense on another level. for a single fluke regular season. and even that wouldn't be particularly memorable if trubisky hadn't been a freaking pro bowler (speaking of flukes)

mack kept on being great. the defense as a whole certainly didn't

[nomorezorro]

packers have a real thin CB room and interior D-line. parsons is a monster but an edge pass rusher can be pretty effectively mitigated if there are other weak points on the defense

(just to balance things out and make clear i'm not just being a delusional homer: rashan gary shifting down to EDGE2 is huge for them. if you have to help out protecting against parsons on every play, then gary is gonna get to feast on one-on-ones)

[Dresden]

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To the people complaining, we need our picks. We have holes

the bears won 5 games in part because they wasted draft picks in trades for guys like montez sweat ('cause we SO needed a good EDGE in the middle of a lost season). and chase claypool (because we were desperate for a WR upgrade to see if fields could throw the ball...in a TANK season)

hey, maybe those short-sighted trades cost us parsons. food for thought

For one thing, the Bears weren't looking at that season as a tank season, and even if they were, they still needed to find out about Fields. And we did need an EDGE badly. If Sweat plays like he did two years ago, it will be well worth a second round pick. If he doesn't then it's a gamble that didn't pay off. Draft picks don't always work out either (Zach Pickens just got cut, for instance).

[fleet]

What a way to piss in the entire NFC North’s Cheerios….

One player shouldn’t be so deflating, but Khalil Mack did put the Bears defense on another level..

the whole defense put the bears defense on another level. for a single fluke regular season. and even that wouldn't be particularly memorable if trubisky hadn't been a freaking pro bowler (speaking of flukes)

mack kept on being great. the defense as a whole certainly didn't

Well Mack trade had the effect on the defense that it did, but it was a bad deal for us. Hopefully for them it will be too, but it might be for them what it wasn’t for us. Right now, the Parsons trade reopens the wound I had on draft night of us not getting the edge rusher/LT. I had gotten over it. Cmon Ben, show us how this is gonna work. I am glad we aren’t facing Kenny Clark anymore, I will say that.

[Susan]

What a way to piss in the entire NFC North’s Cheerios….

One player shouldn’t be so deflating, but Khalil Mack did put the Bears defense on another level..

the whole defense put the bears defense on another level. for a single fluke regular season. and even that wouldn't be particularly memorable if trubisky hadn't been a freaking pro bowler (speaking of flukes)

mack kept on being great. the defense as a whole certainly didn't

Their defensive regression had nothing to do with not being able to afford players and everything to do with this dude getting a HC job.



They lost Adrian Amos and Bryce Callahan in FA. Losing the best DC we've had in my lifetime was far greater of a loss.

[molepharmer]

I'll only think about the cheeseheads after the Bears beat Bal, Cin, Det, Min, Phi, Was, etc.

[TheJordanRule]

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To the people complaining, we need our picks. We have holes

the bears won 5 games in part because they wasted draft picks in trades for guys like montez sweat ('cause we SO needed a good EDGE in the middle of a lost season). and chase claypool (because we were desperate for a WR upgrade to see if fields could throw the ball...in a TANK season)

hey, maybe those short-sighted trades cost us parsons. food for thought

We needed Sweat in the worst way, Dice. Look at the DL we had that year. So awful. Easily one of the worst in the entire league. With a nonexistent pass rush the whole defense suffers. I prefer where we are at right now. A competent D, easily upgradeable through the draft next year.

[sco]

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To the people complaining, we need our picks. We have holes

the bears won 5 games in part because they wasted draft picks in trades for guys like montez sweat ('cause we SO needed a good EDGE in the middle of a lost season). and chase claypool (because we were desperate for a WR upgrade to see if fields could throw the ball...in a TANK season)

hey, maybe those short-sighted trades cost us parsons. food for thought

We needed Sweat in the worst way, Dice. Look at the DL we had that year. So awful. Easily one of the worst in the entire league. With a nonexistent pass rush the whole defense suffers. I prefer where we are at right now. A competent D, easily upgradeable through the draft next year.

I just think 2 1sts from this team would be too valuable to put into a deal like that...I could easily see a scenario where we are a 4 win team again this season...It's not my expected outcome, but we have big question marks still on both sides of the ball...especially at QB and LT.

[fleet]

You can say Packers overpaid. But they will at least get elite production for their money.

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[Dresden]

Tyson Bagent here talked about as the 3rd best backup QB in the league, behind Kirk Cousins and Garrapollo.

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[dice]

One player shouldn’t be so deflating, but Khalil Mack did put the Bears defense on another level..

the whole defense put the bears defense on another level. for a single fluke regular season. and even that wouldn't be particularly memorable if trubisky hadn't been a freaking pro bowler (speaking of flukes)

mack kept on being great. the defense as a whole certainly didn't

Their defensive regression had nothing to do with not being able to afford players and everything to do with this dude getting a HC job.



They lost Adrian Amos and Bryce Callahan in FA. Losing the best DC we've had in my lifetime was far greater of a loss.

certainly a big part of the decline. my overriding point was that it wasn't khalil mack sweeping everyone onto his coattails. everything came together for a brief period of time. including having an elite DC and rising young talent

the timing was bad on top of the bad logic of draft picks on top of new contract. pace was gambling that trubisky was the real deal despite coming off a very unimpressive rookie campaign. trying the same thing w/ an elite prospect in caleb williams and a potentially great new HC coming off 5 wins would only be LESS stupid

[Dresden]

Kind of surprising to hear this from Ben Johnson: "I do think the strength of our team that I felt over the course of training camp is probably going to be up front," Johnson said on Wednesday morning. "I say that not from the flash players, but I think the depth that we have both on the offensive line and defensive line. Those are both areas you don't just play your starting four or five, you end up playing a good eight, nine, or ten guys over the course of the season. The depth that we have at those two spots is really going to play dividends for us here this year."

[Almost Retired]

Kind of surprising to hear this from Ben Johnson: "I do think the strength of our team that I felt over the course of training camp is probably going to be up front," Johnson said on Wednesday morning. "I say that not from the flash players, but I think the depth that we have both on the offensive line and defensive line. Those are both areas you don't just play your starting four or five, you end up playing a good eight, nine, or ten guys over the course of the season. The depth that we have at those two spots is really going to play dividends for us here this year."

I disagree. I think the strength of the team is the receiving corp. We have 7 or 8 guys that could collectively put up big numbers if Caleb has the time the throw and the timing and accuracy needed in a BJ offense. Our 2 biggest weaknesses are pass rush and the running game.

[Chi town]

Kind of surprising to hear this from Ben Johnson: "I do think the strength of our team that I felt over the course of training camp is probably going to be up front," Johnson said on Wednesday morning. "I say that not from the flash players, but I think the depth that we have both on the offensive line and defensive line. Those are both areas you don't just play your starting four or five, you end up playing a good eight, nine, or ten guys over the course of the season. The depth that we have at those two spots is really going to play dividends for us here this year."

I disagree. I think the strength of the team is the receiving corp. We have 7 or 8 guys that could collectively put up big numbers if Caleb has the time the throw and the timing and accuracy needed in a BJ offense. Our 2 biggest weaknesses are pass rush and the running game.

Fully agree but I think our rushing will be better with this line.

Our Pass rush is the big glaring weakness. I think Allen will show his prowess and get pressure though. Once Booker is healthy I think he will wreak havoc.

[Dresden]

Austin Booker looked really good in preseason, although he's injured right now. And while Edge may not be a strength, the interior should be very good with Billings, Grady Jarret, Dexter, and Turner.

[Jeffster81]

Late on the Parsons trade discussion but yeah I would have done 2 firsts and a player for Parsons. Anybody who says otherwise is kidding themselves. What I would not have done was that idiotic contract. I think it will be a contract that burns GB.

[dougthonus]

Late on the Parsons trade discussion but yeah I would have done 2 firsts and a player for Parsons. Anybody who says otherwise is kidding themselves. What I would not have done was that idiotic contract. I think it will be a contract that burns GB.

How much I would give up in assets is highly related to how much value the player adds on the contract and my situation. I think this trade would be terrible for the Bears given their position, but I totally get it from the Packers position.

[Dresden]

It's a lot of money to give one player. He may be only 26, but his game relies on speed and quickness, and those can disappear with age. Nick Bosa seems to already be in decline after 6 seasons.

[panthermark]

I'm not mad Poles didn't go after him. I'm mad he went to our biggest rival. Hopefully it blows up in their face.