Coronavirus

[Habs72]

Another great example of Trump how bad he is. Combining those drugs can give one major dysrhythmia and give a heart attack. That man should be first banned from twitter and then gagged and never to be allowed to speak in public.

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[Just_Bullz]

Everybody has a part to play. Governments, corporates and citizens.

But not them.... stubbornness will kill.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/us/california-stay-at-home-beach-goers/index.html

[dumbell78]

Everybody has a part to play. Governments, corporates and citizens.

But not them.... stubbornness will kill.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/23/us/california-stay-at-home-beach-goers/index.html

We had two parties over the weekend here and apparently 30+ ppl, mostly young backpackers (who attended) have now tested positive. Driving me insane how stupid humanity is.

Stay the f&&k home ppl!

[TallDude]

Let's be honest, as a Finn, you benefit from our military as much as we do. I have no idea what Putin, China, Iran, etc. would do if they had no fear of repercussions for their actions. Russia basically stole Crimea and they have made claims on parts of Finland in the past. The Baltic states . . . You could basically guarantee that Putin would put all of his neighbors under his thumb.

Well i`m not worried about Putin. We have 230 000 men/women In arms if war come. We have A lot of heavy artillery. Finnish ground is damn tricky. Forests, swamps Rivers and lakes make tanks almost useless. And we can raise our military up to 900 000 men an women in arms. We have enough missiles. And we are well trained. Personally when i was in the Army i did use 24 different weapons. But most important thing is that we have some nukes. They are made in 60`s and 70`s and Putin know this. So St. peterburg and Moscov would get atleast destroyed. And if they would use nuke`s they bacially nuke themself. Atlantic ocean winds make most of fallout in Russia`s side. And Putin has been living in Finland a lot. He has here a lot of friends and they meet every year. Just normal Joes. No polticons. So he like Finland. And if u somewhou reach Helsinki it only started guerrilla war. Putin has no money or Power to fight against Europe. Germany can really fast make autofactorys to warfactorys.

Wtf youre talkin about? STOP makin up **** like Finland has nukes, cause we DONT !

Well i will send u some links. We have somekind Nuke weapons. Atleast we can make them. We have enriched uranium and skillset to use it. I know IF we have nukes we never use them. We have tools what terrorists and lot of countries would like to have. But we have no ready nuke weapon. That is where u are right. And this was totally out of topic anyway. It is so boring right now

[dougthonus]

My daughter doing her part to help:

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[bledredwine]

My daughter doing her part to help:

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Your daughter is awesome.

[Fl_Flash]

Another great example of Trump how bad he is. Combining those drugs can give one major dysrhythmia and give a heart attack. That man should be first banned from twitter and then gagged and never to be allowed to speak in public.

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All the tweet is stating is that those two drugs have shown great promise in some very quickly put together studies which have holes in them. He's congratulating those involved for their quick work.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html - From the CDC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#14f6e5ab5b84 - Forbes.

The only thing I've seen about these drugs in combination is possible suicidal thoughts - which is a known side effect. Your proclamation that these drugs can cause dysrhythmia or heart attack is both reckless and disinformative.

I found these two above articles in less than five minutes with a quick google search. There's plenty more that cite the study in France. The flaws in the study but also the conclusion that the initial results are positive but meriting more investigation. Nowhere do any of them state that they can cause heart attacks.

Please stop with the knee-jerk reactions. You're not helping anyone.

[Habs72]

Another great example of Trump how bad he is. Combining those drugs can give one major dysrhythmia and give a heart attack. That man should be first banned from twitter and then gagged and never to be allowed to speak in public.

Read on Twitter

All the tweet is stating is that those two drugs have shown great promise in some very quickly put together studies which have holes in them. He's congratulating those involved for their quick work.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html - From the CDC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#14f6e5ab5b84 - Forbes.

The only thing I've seen about these drugs in combination is possible suicidal thoughts - which is a known side effect. Your proclamation that these drugs can cause dysrhythmia or heart attack is both reckless and disinformative.

I found these two above articles in less than five minutes with a quick google search. There's plenty more that cite the study in France. The flaws in the study but also the conclusion that the initial results are positive but meriting more investigation. Nowhere do any of them state that they can cause heart attacks.

Please stop with the knee-jerk reactions. You're not helping anyone.

He specifically tweeted, ”TAKEN TOGETHER”. What part you didnt understand? There is numerous medical doctors and such sayin it can cause the things i wrote if taken together. Did you even read the tweet and response to it?

[Habs72]

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/22/us/georgia-coronavirus-girl-hospitalized/index.html

Also in Sweden 1/3 of people been in ICU havent been in riskgroups, over 65year olds are considered as one in Sweden. This thing is hittin hard on people not being in riskgroups aswell.

[Fl_Flash]

Another great example of Trump how bad he is. Combining those drugs can give one major dysrhythmia and give a heart attack. That man should be first banned from twitter and then gagged and never to be allowed to speak in public.

Read on Twitter

All the tweet is stating is that those two drugs have shown great promise in some very quickly put together studies which have holes in them. He's congratulating those involved for their quick work.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html - From the CDC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#14f6e5ab5b84 - Forbes.

The only thing I've seen about these drugs in combination is possible suicidal thoughts - which is a known side effect. Your proclamation that these drugs can cause dysrhythmia or heart attack is both reckless and disinformative.

I found these two above articles in less than five minutes with a quick google search. There's plenty more that cite the study in France. The flaws in the study but also the conclusion that the initial results are positive but meriting more investigation. Nowhere do any of them state that they can cause heart attacks.

Please stop with the knee-jerk reactions. You're not helping anyone.

He specifically tweeted, ”TAKEN TOGETHER”. What part you didnt understand? There is numerous medical doctors and such sayin it can cause the things i wrote if taken together. Did you even read the tweet and response to it?

You're serious, aren't you? Did you even read the articles I posted? I'm sorry, but some random guy on the internet states that "numerous medical doctors" state such-and-such and I"m supposed to take said random internet guy's writing as gospel?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438 - Is the Wall Street Journal enough for you?

You can't reason with those who don't want to be reasoned with. Even if the two drugs, in combination, might cause a heart attack - I'm thinking those who are in those circumstances would be OK with the risk.

Just be a man and admit it - you can't stand Donald Trump and you look for anything and everything - no matter how irrational you are - to show what a clown he is. Trump says a lot of stupid things. This tweet wasn't one of them.

[whonka]

Another great example of Trump how bad he is. Combining those drugs can give one major dysrhythmia and give a heart attack. That man should be first banned from twitter and then gagged and never to be allowed to speak in public.

Read on Twitter

All the tweet is stating is that those two drugs have shown great promise in some very quickly put together studies which have holes in them. He's congratulating those involved for their quick work.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html - From the CDC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#14f6e5ab5b84 - Forbes.

The only thing I've seen about these drugs in combination is possible suicidal thoughts - which is a known side effect. Your proclamation that these drugs can cause dysrhythmia or heart attack is both reckless and disinformative.

I found these two above articles in less than five minutes with a quick google search. There's plenty more that cite the study in France. The flaws in the study but also the conclusion that the initial results are positive but meriting more investigation. Nowhere do any of them state that they can cause heart attacks.

Please stop with the knee-jerk reactions. You're not helping anyone.

Neither Trump nor Habs is incorrect, technically. Both plaquenil and azithro can prolong QT which could lead to Torsades and death. In someone with baseline long QT, it could be extremely dangerous to use this combo (or either of them alone).

That said, this combo is being used pretty frequently for COVID19 right now. As long as you’re monitored and using it appropriately, it should be ok. But if the general population starts using it without the guidance of a medical provider, esp if they have a history or family history of heart issues, that’s dangerous.

[MrSparkle]

All the tweet is stating is that those two drugs have shown great promise in some very quickly put together studies which have holes in them. He's congratulating those involved for their quick work.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html - From the CDC

https://www.forbes.com/sites/marybethpfeiffer/2020/03/22/one-patient-dodges-a-covid-bullet-is-she-a-harbinger-or-outlier/#14f6e5ab5b84 - Forbes.

The only thing I've seen about these drugs in combination is possible suicidal thoughts - which is a known side effect. Your proclamation that these drugs can cause dysrhythmia or heart attack is both reckless and disinformative.

I found these two above articles in less than five minutes with a quick google search. There's plenty more that cite the study in France. The flaws in the study but also the conclusion that the initial results are positive but meriting more investigation. Nowhere do any of them state that they can cause heart attacks.

Please stop with the knee-jerk reactions. You're not helping anyone.

He specifically tweeted, ”TAKEN TOGETHER”. What part you didnt understand? There is numerous medical doctors and such sayin it can cause the things i wrote if taken together. Did you even read the tweet and response to it?

You're serious, aren't you? Did you even read the articles I posted? I'm sorry, but some random guy on the internet states that "numerous medical doctors" state such-and-such and I"m supposed to take said random internet guy's writing as gospel?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438 - Is the Wall Street Journal enough for you?

You can't reason with those who don't want to be reasoned with. Even if the two drugs, in combination, might cause a heart attack - I'm thinking those who are in those circumstances would be OK with the risk.

Just be a man and admit it - you can't stand Donald Trump and you look for anything and everything - no matter how irrational you are - to show what a clown he is. Trump says a lot of stupid things. This tweet wasn't one of them.

The president has no right whatsoever to tweet capitalized pill combinations for his mostly brainwashed fanbase. Fortunately 50%+ of the country ignores his medical advice and seeks counsil from physicians.

[wolffy]

Lets be honest, Trump could have been a little more precautionary in that tweet.

Theres reports this morning that people have already been hospitalized after trying to treat themselves with these drugs.

[Fl_Flash]

The president has no right whatsoever to tweet capitalized pill combinations for his mostly brainwashed fanbase. Fortunately 50%+ of the country ignores his medical advice and seeks counsil from physicians.

Brainwashed? Really? That tweet had nothing to do with giving medical advice. He stated two drugs in combination have shown positive results. If people are running with it and going off the rails and medicating themselves without proper medical supervision - that's on them.

Perhaps you should take the plank from your eye before trying to remove the speck from any one else's eye.

[TheJordanRule]

The president has no right whatsoever to tweet capitalized pill combinations for his mostly brainwashed fanbase. Fortunately 50%+ of the country ignores his medical advice and seeks counsil from physicians.

Brainwashed? Really? That tweet had nothing to do with giving medical advice. He stated two drugs in combination have shown positive results. If people are running with it and going off the rails and medicating themselves without proper medical supervision - that's on them.

Perhaps you should take the plank from your eye before trying to remove the speck from any one else's eye.

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain #BrilliantPosts #MakeAmericaDumbAssesAgain

[Fl_Flash]

The president has no right whatsoever to tweet capitalized pill combinations for his mostly brainwashed fanbase. Fortunately 50%+ of the country ignores his medical advice and seeks counsil from physicians.

Brainwashed? Really? That tweet had nothing to do with giving medical advice. He stated two drugs in combination have shown positive results. If people are running with it and going off the rails and medicating themselves without proper medical supervision - that's on them.

Perhaps you should take the plank from your eye before trying to remove the speck from any one else's eye.

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain #BrilliantPosts #MakeAmericaDumbAssesAgain

I don't even know how to interpret this. Are you making a statement? Agree? disagree? I'm guessing it's a failed attempt to be cute.

Look, if you want to say that the tweet was poorly worded as Wolfy suggests - that's a fair point. What I'm not getting is the guy was trying to instill a little hope in people. "Hey, look. We might have a solution and thank you to the people who are working hard to see it through".

Instead, all some folks can think to do is to deride the statement. Hate the messenger all you want. The message wasn't all that bad, and actually positive.

[DuckIII]

Regardless of whether Trump specifically told people to start self medicating - he clearly did not - he should know that this is a risk in desperate times when the statement comes from the top. If he vetted instead of just spewing, someone would have advised him of this.

Also, while I realize he’s trying to spread some hope (curb economic downturn) part of the problem to many of us is that he’s been trying to optimistically spin everything for a long time now and in fact acted consistent with that optimism (I’m being euphemistic) to the detriment of preemptive measures.

I wish he would just be more conservative and defer more to medical experts. For example, just have Fauci make an accurate and fully considered comment and tweet that. Fauci finds himself repeatedly correcting the president’s misstatements, and far fewer people see the corrections than the misstatements.

[MrSparkle]

Brainwashed? Really? That tweet had nothing to do with giving medical advice. He stated two drugs in combination have shown positive results. If people are running with it and going off the rails and medicating themselves without proper medical supervision - that's on them.

Perhaps you should take the plank from your eye before trying to remove the speck from any one else's eye.

#MakeAmericaGreatAgain #BrilliantPosts #MakeAmericaDumbAssesAgain

I don't even know how to interpret this. Are you making a statement? Agree? disagree? I'm guessing it's a failed attempt to be cute.

Look, if you want to say that the tweet was poorly worded as Wolfy suggests - that's a fair point. What I'm not getting is the guy was trying to instill a little hope in people. "Hey, look. We might have a solution and thank you to the people who are working hard to see it through".

Instead, all some folks can think to do is to deride the statement. Hate the messenger all you want. The message wasn't all that bad, and actually positive.

He can instill hope by actually not speaking publicly or via twitter, anymore. There's a big fire at the school yard and the bratty 10 year old is pompously talking game in the center of it while a bunch of teachers are trying to put it out and everyone without a POTUS Health Insurance, real estate empire and security detail are getting burnt.

He has categorically mismanaged this on the most incompetent level for a US President in all of this country's history. The military people are shaking their heads, the medical industry is shaking its head, state governors are dumping on him, the media is frustrated, Wall St has no confidence in his speeches (it's been chaotic dumping with slight upturns, and more dumping), foreign leaders are shaking their head, his own chief medical officer is face-palming on camera.

Yet here you are FL Flash, getting this guy's back. When does it stop?

Here's my opinion - he should be golfing right now. I don't care if my tax dollars pay for his golfing until December. Get him off the podium and on the course. Create a roundtable of powerful replacements to manage the situation and the PR. I don't care if it's George W Bush and Dick Cheney.

[nitetrain8603]

Regardless of whether Trump specifically told people to start self medicating - he clearly did not - he should know that this is a risk in desperate times when the statement comes from the top. If he vetted instead of just spewing, someone would have advised him of this.

Also, while I realize he’s trying to spread some hope (curb economic downturn) part of the problem to many of us is that he’s been trying to optimistically spin everything for a long time now and in fact acted consistent with that optimism (I’m being euphemistic) to the detriment of preemptive measures.

I wish he would just be more conservative and defer more to medical experts. For example, just have Fauci make an accurate and fully considered comment and tweet that. Fauci finds himself repeatedly correcting the president’s misstatements, and far fewer people see the corrections than the misstatements.

I think this is everything wrong with the tweet. With that said, it's not overly bad either. I'm not a supporter of him, but I'm okay with congratulating people on hard work.

[whonka]

Regardless of whether Trump specifically told people to start self medicating - he clearly did not - he should know that this is a risk in desperate times when the statement comes from the top. If he vetted instead of just spewing, someone would have advised him of this.

Also, while I realize he’s trying to spread some hope (curb economic downturn) part of the problem to many of us is that he’s been trying to optimistically spin everything for a long time now and in fact acted consistent with that optimism (I’m being euphemistic) to the detriment of preemptive measures.

I wish he would just be more conservative and defer more to medical experts. For example, just have Fauci make an accurate and fully considered comment and tweet that. Fauci finds himself repeatedly correcting the president’s misstatements, and far fewer people see the corrections than the misstatements.

Yeah, I read this earlier.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/i-m-going-keep-pushing-anthony-fauci-tries-make-white-house-listen-facts-pandemic