NBA Trade Thread #2

[Dez]

F*** no.

James Harden led teams aren't winning s***.

I'd rather try building and developing a winner.

Lol that's funny. He might not have won a ring but he's led his team to 2 WCF's, a 65 win season, multiple 50 win seasons. Is he Bron or Steph or Kawhi? No but he's a winner. And the West is hard. He lost to 2 championship Warriors teams. It's like saying Barkley or Malone weren't winners. Lot's of great players don't have a ring.

We'd be extremely lucky to have the success of Harden's Rockets teams.

He might not have won a ring? He hasn't and will not win a ring with his style of play.

If you want that sort of "success" that's fine but I want more than just being in the playoffs.

[Indomitable]

Good contract for Wood. You don't need to be a star to make this kind of money. The mid-level exception, which was a tool to round out a roster with a bench player, is $39M over 4 years. Wood is a good 3P shooter, good shotblocker, mobile for a 6' 10", and under 25.

Wood is not a shotblocker and is 25. He will be a decent player.

[TheStig]

F*** no.

James Harden led teams aren't winning s***.

I'd rather try building and developing a winner.

Lol that's funny. He might not have won a ring but he's led his team to 2 WCF's, a 65 win season, multiple 50 win seasons. Is he Bron or Steph or Kawhi? No but he's a winner. And the West is hard. He lost to 2 championship Warriors teams. It's like saying Barkley or Malone weren't winners. Lot's of great players don't have a ring.

We'd be extremely lucky to have the success of Harden's Rockets teams.

He might not have won a ring? He hasn't and will not win a ring with his style of play.

If you want that sort of "success" that's fine but I want more than just being in the playoffs.

He was a CP3 hamstring away from making it to the finals and probably winning it.

You want more? In the last 10 years its been Bron or Curry led teams with the Spurs breaking through once. In all likely hood, you're not getting more unless you get a generational talent. I don't see that on the roster.

Now I'm not advocating for Harden because you'd have to gut the team and him and a skelton cast isn't contending and he doesn't want to be here.

[Dez]

Lol that's funny. He might not have won a ring but he's led his team to 2 WCF's, a 65 win season, multiple 50 win seasons. Is he Bron or Steph or Kawhi? No but he's a winner. And the West is hard. He lost to 2 championship Warriors teams. It's like saying Barkley or Malone weren't winners. Lot's of great players don't have a ring.

We'd be extremely lucky to have the success of Harden's Rockets teams.

He might not have won a ring? He hasn't and will not win a ring with his style of play.

If you want that sort of "success" that's fine but I want more than just being in the playoffs.

He was a CP3 hamstring away from making it to the finals and probably winning it.

You want more? In the last 10 years its been Bron or Curry led teams with the Spurs breaking through once. In all likely hood, you're not getting more unless you get a generational talent. I don't see that on the roster.

Now I'm not advocating for Harden because you'd have to gut the team and him and a skelton cast isn't contending and he doesn't want to be here.

That's just hyperbole and I strongly disagree with that.

[TheStig]

He might not have won a ring? He hasn't and will not win a ring with his style of play.

If you want that sort of "success" that's fine but I want more than just being in the playoffs.

He was a CP3 hamstring away from making it to the finals and probably winning it.

You want more? In the last 10 years its been Bron or Curry led teams with the Spurs breaking through once. In all likely hood, you're not getting more unless you get a generational talent. I don't see that on the roster.

Now I'm not advocating for Harden because you'd have to gut the team and him and a skelton cast isn't contending and he doesn't want to be here.

That's just hyperbole and I strongly disagree with that.

You can disagree all you want but they had 2 close out games in a row after it happened. It was looking very bad for the Warriors down 3-2 having to win 2 in a row with game 7 on the road.

[Kukoc-Lauri]

Thad Young for Patty Mills (expiring), two veterans, both dropped in play, contracts matched, both better positional fits in new team. Spurs free playing time for White,Walker,T.Jones add best defender on wings/pf on their current roster, Bulls getting combo veteran guard who can play pg or sg, as starter (in case of injuries) or from the bench and mentor for White (Coby said Mills was his toughest player to guard in his rookie season). Bulls lift Markkanens minutes up to 35, and backup is Pat Williams (on both wing positions) and Noah Vonleh (Kornet&Felicio out any way possible).

[Chi town]

Thad Young for Patty Mills (expiring), two veterans, both dropped in play, contracts matched, both better positional fits in new team. Spurs free playing time for White,Walker,T.Jones add best defender on wings/pf on their current roster, Bulls getting combo veteran guard who can play pg or sg, as starter (in case of injuries) or from the bench and mentor for White (Coby said Mills was his toughest player to guard in his rookie season). Bulls lift Markkanens minutes up to 35, and backup is Pat Williams (on both wing positions) and Noah Vonleh (Kornet&Felicio out any way possible).

Good deal. I think AK is going to find out if Coby is his PG and Sato the backup till the deadline. Think Dotson will be the backup after the deadline.

This is a solid trade if we were looking to win games. I don’t know that we are. I think we are wanting to sink or swim with our young guys.

[sco]

Thad Young for Patty Mills (expiring), two veterans, both dropped in play, contracts matched, both better positional fits in new team. Spurs free playing time for White,Walker,T.Jones add best defender on wings/pf on their current roster, Bulls getting combo veteran guard who can play pg or sg, as starter (in case of injuries) or from the bench and mentor for White (Coby said Mills was his toughest player to guard in his rookie season). Bulls lift Markkanens minutes up to 35, and backup is Pat Williams (on both wing positions) and Noah Vonleh (Kornet&Felicio out any way possible).

Good deal. I think AK is going to find out if Coby is his PG and Sato the backup till the deadline. Think Dotson will be the backup after the deadline.

This is a solid trade if we were looking to win games. I don’t know that we are. I think we are wanting to sink or swim with our young guys.

I know it wasn't the point you were making, but I really think that Arci is better that Sato.

[ChettheJet]

The Mills Young trade is fine they shuffle the deck for both teams. Lauri either earns 35 minutes or he doesn't stick around, they aren't given to him to see what he can do or because Donovan sees so much in him or his confidence of making the comeback can't be denied.

Perception clouds the Arci/Sato vision. Arcidiacono plays hard and above expectations for a FA scrappy player, Satoransky had a bad year when more was expected from a former SRP and semi major FA signing. But if even Boylen could see that starting Sato all year and using Arcii in situations of need then the difference as obvious.

[Chi town]

Thad Young for Patty Mills (expiring), two veterans, both dropped in play, contracts matched, both better positional fits in new team. Spurs free playing time for White,Walker,T.Jones add best defender on wings/pf on their current roster, Bulls getting combo veteran guard who can play pg or sg, as starter (in case of injuries) or from the bench and mentor for White (Coby said Mills was his toughest player to guard in his rookie season). Bulls lift Markkanens minutes up to 35, and backup is Pat Williams (on both wing positions) and Noah Vonleh (Kornet&Felicio out any way possible).

Good deal. I think AK is going to find out if Coby is his PG and Sato the backup till the deadline. Think Dotson will be the backup after the deadline.

This is a solid trade if we were looking to win games. I don’t know that we are. I think we are wanting to sink or swim with our young guys.

I know it wasn't the point you were making, but I really think that Arci is better that Sato.

At PG, I do too. I think Dotson is and will prove he's better than both.

[Onibuh]

I don't understand all the hate for some star Players

Like we are happy to be at the Bottom.


If it's not a pure Cap Dump, you always want to come out of a trade with the best Player included. Any deal the Bulls make for Harden has Harden as the best Player in that deal. I would really want to see him with Lavine and Williams. This could be fun to watch even if Harden is a bit boring and getting the star Treatment. If we could pull it off with keeping this years FRP, Lavine and Williams there is no Combo I would be against.

[BullsFTW]

Thad Young for Patty Mills (expiring), two veterans, both dropped in play, contracts matched, both better positional fits in new team. Spurs free playing time for White,Walker,T.Jones add best defender on wings/pf on their current roster, Bulls getting combo veteran guard who can play pg or sg, as starter (in case of injuries) or from the bench and mentor for White (Coby said Mills was his toughest player to guard in his rookie season). Bulls lift Markkanens minutes up to 35, and backup is Pat Williams (on both wing positions) and Noah Vonleh (Kornet&Felicio out any way possible).

I like the trade. I’ve always liked Patty Mills.

[sco]

BKN - IN: Harden OUT: Dinwiddie, Levert, Allen

HOU - IN: Porter, Levert, Allen OUT: Harden, House

CHI - IN: Dinwiddie, House OUT: Porter

[Andi Obst]

BKN - IN: Harden OUT: Dinwiddie, Levert, Allen

HOU - IN: Porter, Levert, Allen OUT: Harden, House

CHI - IN: Dinwiddie, House OUT: Porter

There would have to be an absurd number of picks involved for the Rockets to even consider that.

[sco]

BKN - IN: Harden OUT: Dinwiddie, Levert, Allen

HOU - IN: Porter, Levert, Allen OUT: Harden, House

CHI - IN: Dinwiddie, House OUT: Porter

There would have to be an absurd number of picks involved for the Rockets to even consider that.

I guess it depends on how pissy Harden gets about his demand. I think 1, maybe 2 picks from BKN at most. Levert is a Lavine level player. Porter is a decent starter and expiring, and I think Allen has a lot of potential.

[Andi Obst]

I guess it depends on how pissy Harden gets about his demand. I think 1, maybe 2 picks from BKN at most. Levert is a Lavine level player. Porter is a decent starter and expiring, and I think Allen has a lot of potential.

Yeah, no way it's only 2 picks. Jrue freaking Holiday just cost the Bucks 2 unprotected picks + 2 pick swaps and he can just decide to leave next summer if he wants to. Harden is infinitely better than Holiday and under contract for at least 2 more years.

LeVert is one of the most overrated assets in the NBA IMO (by fans at least). Pretty bad injury history, hasn't been efficient as a scorer to this point of his career and not a high-level creator for others. He's also not super young. Meh. Porter is worthless to their future. Allen is nice but as a role player only + he might become expensive next summer. I'm not even listening to that offer if I'm Houston.

[jump]

I guess it depends on how pissy Harden gets about his demand. I think 1, maybe 2 picks from BKN at most. Levert is a Lavine level player. Porter is a decent starter and expiring, and I think Allen has a lot of potential.

Yeah, no way it's only 2 picks. Jrue freaking Holiday just cost the Bucks 2 unprotected picks + 2 pick swaps and he can just decide to leave next summer if he wants to. Harden is infinitely better than Holiday and under contract for at least 2 more years.

LeVert is one of the most overrated assets in the NBA IMO (by fans at least). Pretty bad injury history, hasn't been efficient as a scorer to this point of his career and not a high-level creator for others. He's also not super young. Meh. Porter is worthless to their future. Allen is nice but as a role player only + he might become expensive next summer. I'm not even listening to that offer if I'm Houston.

I don't think you can use that trade as a measure. Milwaukee was desperate and acted like it. They got smoked, so I wouldn't expect anyone else to offer that much - even if it is for Harden.

[erasmusmrr]

Ya never know if Hou just wants an immediate dump and they can choose to trade him somewhere other than BK.

[PhilLeotardo]

F*** no.

James Harden led teams aren't winning s***.

I'd rather try building and developing a winner.

Lol that's funny. He might not have won a ring but he's led his team to 2 WCF's, a 65 win season, multiple 50 win seasons. Is he Bron or Steph or Kawhi? No but he's a winner. And the West is hard. He lost to 2 championship Warriors teams. It's like saying Barkley or Malone weren't winners. Lot's of great players don't have a ring.

We'd be extremely lucky to have the success of Harden's Rockets teams.

He might not have won a ring? He hasn't and will not win a ring with his style of play.

If you want that sort of "success" that's fine but I want more than just being in the playoffs.

[PhilLeotardo]

There are a plethora of beyond-embarrassing/cringe-inducing nonsensical comments on here that make it tough to discern whether or not the user is being serious or having a laugh

This asinine take on Harden is one of them, as was the absolutely bewildering “Garf Forman was a similar GM to Pat Riley & Greg Popovich” (LMFAO!!!) that received a ton of headscratches in another thread

Ironically, I believe it’s the same user with the hilarious comment on Garf in the other thread now “debating” over the Harden thing in this one hahaha!! It’s a trollspiracy!

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