cjbulls wrote:PhilLeotardo wrote:Also, McDermott had his development destroyed on those Thibs teams, which weren’t very good developmental systems, and were in the process of crashing & burning. He could’ve had a better first few years of Nba play had he been drafted to a team that took their time to develop guys
We’ve actually seen him become a solid player in Ind. He had it in him to be better & is more athletic than he’s given credit for, but that team he was drafted to was coming apart at the seams/becoming toxic very rapidly
Both Thibs and Skiles had that crash and burn system. It really worked well with some guys and really failed with others. I still don’t know if it was right or wrong.
Not only was it wrong, but it was downright demeaning (especially in TTs case; my word, what an unpleasant individual) to grown men who command more money than their coaches, to be spoken to in that manner
Neither TT nor Skiles were ever great coaches. Skiles was good, and TT had two solid years where he was very good, before people began to properly gameplan for his embarrassingly telegraphed schemes & everyone (peers/players/superiors/whomever just tuned him out)
No rookies/young guys besides Butler ever developed under TTs watch. Rose had one great season, and then nothing to write home about after that
TTs tenure in Minneapolis was one of the most batsh*t insane transpirations that I have ever bore witness to as an NBA fan. Go talk to literally every single Wolves fan, they still have PTSD from the toxic Thibs meltdown experiment. He singlehandedly set that team back years. The moves he made to bring in Teague & the rest of those older guys that couldn’t shoot the ball to save their lives & were way past it, were utterly perplexing. I followed his years there very closely being a Bulls fan, and it honestly seemed as if he was constructing the team specifically to fail
Any armchair GM could clearly see that the team needed shooters first & foremost in order to space the floor for Wiggins, who was having trouble finding space & wasn’t a good shooter himself, but TT went the completely opposite route, and in doing so, cut KATs/Wiggins’s legs out from under them. He didn’t give those teams a prayer to succeed, minus bringing in Butler, which obviously didn’t last long
Not only was his offense laughably atrocious (you could seriously probably find many HS teams that call more coherent offensive sets than this goof did), but his defensive schemes were downright awful as well. The league had caught onto them a few years prior, they were ancient news & simply didn’t work anymore, but this nutcase just would not budge. He kept spamming the same telegraphed nonsense ad nauseum
What compounded all of the above, was the downright despicable way in which he spoke to the people around him. He was an insufferable pr!ck in Chicago with his screaming at players on the court, but he took it to a new level In Minneapolis. His screaming, especially at the younger guys, was abusive to where it was really hard to watch as an onlooker. Fans were afraid to approach him & looked visibly nervous if they had seats near his bench. It was honestly disturbing, the guy clearly has some major issues & needs help. No one would be shocked to see this guy get his penguin nose smashed in, I’m actually surprised that he hasn’t had any (reported) physical confrontations with anyone yet
I hope for Knicks fans’ sake that he’s changed his ways, because he really does love the game of basketball, but the man is a volatile lunatic, and you simply cannot speak to people in that manner within the confines of a professional work environment (or ANY environment). Especially some crusty old baby boomer white guy, furiously *screaming* at young black men at the top of his lungs like a slave driver, it is just horrible to watch, and I can’t imagine what it’s like for players to have to endure that. He messed KAT up big time, who is a pretty timid dude by nature. There’s a reason that the only team that was willing to employ TT as their HC are the laughing stock of the NBA
It’s hardly a surprise that, in a league wide players’ poll asking them which coaches they’d least prefer to play under, TT & Jim g0damn Boilan came in dead last by a landslide. Surprise surprise, two of the three coaches that the Chicago Bulls employed over the past decade, hahaha. Players first!