Official: Jimmy Butler, #16 to Minnesota for Lavine, Dunn, #7 - merged/Justin Patton injured

[Payt10]

The pick swap just ****** it all up.

#16 shouldn't of even been on the table.

They got Jimmy & still kept their 1st? Holy hell...

THEE absolute worst trading partner in all of the NBA

This is the same team that had to give up their own 2nd rounder for Cameron Payne, despite them already giving away the best player in the trade (Taj). I guess we should have been prepared.

[Benedict Miller]

Wade and Jimmy just laughing at gar/pax

**** Wade & Jimmy

[bennjuiced34]

The pick swap just ****** it all up.

#16 shouldn't of even been on the table.

They got Jimmy & still kept their 1st? Holy hell...

THEE absolute worst trading partner in all of the NBA

What if that was the deal breaker though? Did you see that there weren't any better offers (reportedly) on the table?

I think most of us overrated Butler's value.

Boston was willing to give up THE FARM for Porzingis. Yet wouldn't even give us #3 or a pick next year?

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[TheAznDoughBoy]

Public warning for trolling/ baiting. A truly classless move at this point in time. Please do not come back.
- Ben

[Dez]

I like how we got Lavine who the Bulls could have drafted instead of McDermott.

That's great but irrelevant now.

Going to be incessantly whinging for much longer?

Going to learn how to spell any time soon?

Everything was correct......

[Dez]

blatant trolling edited out

Someone is upset, take a nap young child.

[GRADEN]

I'm OK with the deal but I do not understand the 16 inclusion.... why? Patton would have been a great addition to our team or Leaf or whomever we wanted there.... then we sell Bell whom we also could have really used as that quintessential super hustle 9th-10th guy getting 8-12mpg but a +- monster.... well only thing I thought was that 3.5million is the rondo buyout... now what to do with Wade? Buyout near his 23.8 and let walk or play him 30-40 games and trade the half paycheck for another 1/2 paycheck and 2nd rounder to CLE or back to Miami whom will need him for playoffs....

It's crazy guys... we didn't get the deal where we all said, "yep it's a homerun" but positive thoughts time ya know?

1. The losing will create a finger, and that finger will be pointed at garpax and they will be out asap
2. The losing will give us a good chance at the top 3 picks in 2018 which are 1. Porter 2. Ayton 3. Duval
3. The new minutes will tell us what we have with Dunn, Valentine, Portis, and Payne
4. LeBron has 3-4 years and Warriors have 3-4 years of dominance left... collect our assets and develop to be ready THEN
5. Markannen and LaVine are very efficient shooters, something we've been missing

So here is our team:

PG Cam Payne 2/5.5
PG Kris Dunn 3/13.5
G Isaiah Cannan 1/1.5
G Jerian Grant 2/4.3
SG Zach LaVine 1/3.2
SG Dwyane Wade 1/23.8
SF Denzel Valentine 3/7.8
SF Paul Zipser 3/4.7
PF Bobby Portis 2/4
PF Lauri Markannen 4/15ish
C Robin Lopez 2/28.1

RFA Mirotic (projected deal 2-3 years 9-12 million per)
RFA Carter-Williams (projected value 1-2 years 3.5-4 million per)
UFAs Morrow, Hunter, Walkup, Felicio, Lauvergne
Buyout candidate: Rondo

[GRADEN]

I can definitely see us resign Mirotic and Felicio for the sheer facts that now we will pay them a little extra to stay and it will give us 2 assets for the future..

Niko 3/42 as we'd overpay to keep
Felicio 3/13.5

I'd also pay Lauvergne in that 2/11 range

We have the money, need bigs, and can use them in the future

[GRADEN]

LaVine is just a season away from RFA --- that's scary

[dumbell78]

The pick swap just ****** it all up.

#16 shouldn't of even been on the table.

They got Jimmy & still kept their 1st? Holy hell...

THEE absolute worst trading partner in all of the NBA

What if that was the deal breaker though? Did you see that there weren't any better offers (reportedly) on the table?

I think most of us overrated Butler's value.

Boston was willing to give up THE FARM for Porzingis. Yet wouldn't even give us #3 or a pick next year?

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See that's another blatant cop out by GarPax, don't buy into it. I was for a trade and finally/thankfully they got it. However the trade is absolute garbage.

I can argue that Murray/Harris and #13 from Denver in this years draft and STILL KEEPING 16 is more valuable to us than what we got from Minny. Murray went #7 last year and has shown plenty of promise, good potential. Harris has found a nice groove in the NBA as well. They both give you shooting this team desperately needs.

Now take what Sac did with Portland for example and see how creative teams can be in the draft. If you see a kid that is really special and want him bad enough you can flip 13 & 16 for 10 and steal a guy like Mitchell or maybe even Smith Jr.

More opportunity to hit on young talent and still drive the tank machine into next year. Also who cares you have 6 PG's on the roster, all of them suck. They can be dumped down the track. Plus I'm not worried about paying Zach big money a year removed from that ACL.

Give me Murray/Harris/13/16
over
Dunn/ACL Zach/and a boy named Lauri

[bennjuiced34]

The pick swap just ****** it all up.

#16 shouldn't of even been on the table.

They got Jimmy & still kept their 1st? Holy hell...

THEE absolute worst trading partner in all of the NBA

What if that was the deal breaker though? Did you see that there weren't any better offers (reportedly) on the table?

I think most of us overrated Butler's value.

Boston was willing to give up THE FARM for Porzingis. Yet wouldn't even give us #3 or a pick next year?

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See that's another blatant cop out by GarPax, don't buy into it. I was for a trade and finally/thankfully they got it. However the trade is absolute garbage.

I can argue that Murray/Harris and #13 from Denver in this years draft and STILL KEEPING 16 is more valuable to us than what we got from Minny. Murray went #7 last year and has shown plenty of promise, good potential. Harris has found a nice groove in the NBA as well. They both give you shooting this team desperately needs.

Now take what Sac did with Portland for example and see how creative teams can be in the draft. If you see a kid that is really special and want him bad enough you can flip 13 & 16 for 10 and steal a guy like Mitchell or maybe even Smith Jr.

More opportunity to hit on young talent and still drive the tank machine into next year. Also who cares you have 6 PG's on the roster, all of them suck. They can be dumped down the track.

Give me Murray/Harris/13/16
over
Dunn/ACL Zach/and a boy named Lauri

The Nuggets wouldn't give up Murray. KC reported that so what you're saying is irrelevant.

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[DroseReturnChi]

LaVine is just a season away from RFA --- that's scary

Imagine if the Bulls traded Butler with a year left. I bet most of the posters would be hanging themselves lmao.
It would have been better to get full value but not dealing Butler due to marginal loss would have been catastrophic. Better getting fleeced now than later and that way less time wasted for rebuild.

[bennjuiced34]

Teams were knocking on Phil's door about Porzingis. Literally.

Ainge had a huge package put together.

Yet no one besides Thibs really came calling about Butler.

Should tell you something about his value around the league.

I can't stand GarPax for a lot of different reasons but I think they got this one right.

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[DroseReturnChi]

And one thing to note is that this year's #7 is pretty much similar value to #3 since those range of draft prospects all belong to tier 2.
So getting number 3 is actually worse than the package Bulls got.

[GRADEN]

And a 15.3 TE to work into our asset bin...

[Wonderllama]

Kris Dunn in his 2nd year is already 23 years old. Wow...

[GimmeDat]

And one thing to note is that this year's #7 is pretty much similar value to #3 since those range of draft prospects all belong to tier 2.
So getting number 3 is actually worse than the package Bulls got.

So you're saying Josh Jackson/Jayson Tatum = Lauri Markennen? Not quite.

[dumbell78]

What if that was the deal breaker though? Did you see that there weren't any better offers (reportedly) on the table?

I think most of us overrated Butler's value.

Boston was willing to give up THE FARM for Porzingis. Yet wouldn't even give us #3 or a pick next year?

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See that's another blatant cop out by GarPax, don't buy into it. I was for a trade and finally/thankfully they got it. However the trade is absolute garbage.

I can argue that Murray/Harris and #13 from Denver in this years draft and STILL KEEPING 16 is more valuable to us than what we got from Minny. Murray went #7 last year and has shown plenty of promise, good potential. Harris has found a nice groove in the NBA as well. They both give you shooting this team desperately needs.

Now take what Sac did with Portland for example and see how creative teams can be in the draft. If you see a kid that is really special and want him bad enough you can flip 13 & 16 for 10 and steal a guy like Mitchell or maybe even Smith Jr.

More opportunity to hit on young talent and still drive the tank machine into next year. Also who cares you have 6 PG's on the roster, all of them suck. They can be dumped down the track.

Give me Murray/Harris/13/16
over
Dunn/ACL Zach/and a boy named Lauri

The Nuggets wouldn't give up Murray. KC reported that so what you're saying is irrelevant.

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Don't think that's true, we could have gotten him.

[bennjuiced34]

See that's another blatant cop out by GarPax, don't buy into it. I was for a trade and finally/thankfully they got it. However the trade is absolute garbage.

I can argue that Murray/Harris and #13 from Denver in this years draft and STILL KEEPING 16 is more valuable to us than what we got from Minny. Murray went #7 last year and has shown plenty of promise, good potential. Harris has found a nice groove in the NBA as well. They both give you shooting this team desperately needs.

Now take what Sac did with Portland for example and see how creative teams can be in the draft. If you see a kid that is really special and want him bad enough you can flip 13 & 16 for 10 and steal a guy like Mitchell or maybe even Smith Jr.

More opportunity to hit on young talent and still drive the tank machine into next year. Also who cares you have 6 PG's on the roster, all of them suck. They can be dumped down the track.

Give me Murray/Harris/13/16
over
Dunn/ACL Zach/and a boy named Lauri

The Nuggets wouldn't give up Murray. KC reported that so what you're saying is irrelevant.

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Don't think that's true, we could have gotten him.

Not according to K.C. You any evidence to the contrary?

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[veji1]

Well that sucks... What started in 2008 with Noah and Rose finished in 2016, and after a half hearted and clueless attempt at a retool ( who on earth does assemble a non shooting backcourt of Rondo-Wade-Butler ????) it took just one year to go full rebuild.

to me it's the end of an era. I am french, as a kid I was a big Jordan fan like all so had a softspot for the Bulls, but it really was Noah being drafted that reignited this all and led me to come to the Bulls board, to participate more, and get back behind the team.. Now it feels very empty, I am not quite sure I will be back much.