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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1261 » by sco » Tue Feb 18, 2020 6:13 pm

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sco wrote:The only way I'd trade Zach is for a guy who is a legit #1 option (or has real potential to be) on a contender. That's where rebuilds start, other than that you are on a treadmill. Finding a #1 guy should be the organization's only goal. Since that isn't likely happening this offseason, it should be gathering and developing assets.

Hopefully Otto opts out so we'll have some $ to use to take on a salary and a guy with potential because the FA list is not exciting.


I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.

I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1262 » by MrSparkle » Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:49 am

A summer trade I’d do with Philly (would’ve done at the deadline): Sato, Kornet, Arci to PHI for Thybull, Zhaire, Scott.

CHI would have to add some incentive (heavily protected FRP for example) but that trade would be a no brainer for both sides. PHI needs shooters, we need more toughness.
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Post#1263 » by drosereturn » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:26 am

sco wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
sco wrote:The only way I'd trade Zach is for a guy who is a legit #1 option (or has real potential to be) on a contender. That's where rebuilds start, other than that you are on a treadmill. Finding a #1 guy should be the organization's only goal. Since that isn't likely happening this offseason, it should be gathering and developing assets.

Hopefully Otto opts out so we'll have some $ to use to take on a salary and a guy with potential because the FA list is not exciting.


I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.

I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


He will consider opting out like Barnes since he is at a stage valuing security over max potential earnings.
Something close to a Barnes deal should entice him to opt out and sign a multi year to secure his retirement and its a win-win for both sides since Chicago gets full control over a starting caliber SF and gain flexibility for cap space/trading etc.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1264 » by Dan Z » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:16 am

sco wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
sco wrote:The only way I'd trade Zach is for a guy who is a legit #1 option (or has real potential to be) on a contender. That's where rebuilds start, other than that you are on a treadmill. Finding a #1 guy should be the organization's only goal. Since that isn't likely happening this offseason, it should be gathering and developing assets.

Hopefully Otto opts out so we'll have some $ to use to take on a salary and a guy with potential because the FA list is not exciting.


I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.

I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


If Otto comes back, plays like he did last year for the Bulls and gets that 4/$80 deal do you re-sign him (if you're the Bulls GM)?

I don't.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1265 » by MrSparkle » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:22 am

Dan Z wrote:
sco wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.

I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


If Otto comes back, plays like he did last year for the Bulls and gets that 4/$80 deal do you re-sign him (if you're the Bulls GM)?

I don't.


Yeah, definitely not.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1266 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:56 am

MrSparkle wrote:A summer trade I’d do with Philly (would’ve done at the deadline): Sato, Kornet, Arci to PHI for Thybull, Zhaire, Scott.

CHI would have to add some incentive (heavily protected FRP for example) but that trade would be a no brainer for both sides. PHI needs shooters, we need more toughness.


Wasn't it reported that the Sixers were not trading Thybulle, similar to how the Nuggets were not trading Porter Jr?
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1267 » by MrSparkle » Thu Feb 20, 2020 2:31 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:A summer trade I’d do with Philly (would’ve done at the deadline): Sato, Kornet, Arci to PHI for Thybull, Zhaire, Scott.

CHI would have to add some incentive (heavily protected FRP for example) but that trade would be a no brainer for both sides. PHI needs shooters, we need more toughness.


Wasn't it reported that the Sixers were not trading Thybulle, similar to how the Nuggets were not trading Porter Jr?


Not sure, but that wouldn't surprise me.

He's not special until he learns to shoot, but if he does, he can be a really serious player.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1268 » by Dan Z » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:11 am

MrSparkle wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
sco wrote:I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


If Otto comes back, plays like he did last year for the Bulls and gets that 4/$80 deal do you re-sign him (if you're the Bulls GM)?

I don't.


Yeah, definitely not.


What do you do with him going forward? If he's not someone to re-sign then he's not in the longterm plans. Do you try to trade him in the offseason or next years trade deadline? He will probably be hard to trade due to his salary.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1269 » by Chi town » Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:35 am

Showtime23 wrote:
sco wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.

I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


He will consider opting out like Barnes since he is at a stage valuing security over max potential earnings.
Something close to a Barnes deal should entice him to opt out and sign a multi year to secure his retirement and its a win-win for both sides since Chicago gets full control over a starting caliber SF and gain flexibility for cap space/trading etc.


I’d sign Otto for 4/80. Saves us 10M in cap this summer and you can trade him Dec 15th. That’s better than a one year option and being in limbo. If he signs that cheap he’s a trade asset that could be the main contract and getting a better player like Embiid with more assets.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1270 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:51 am

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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1271 » by WindyCityBorn » Thu Feb 20, 2020 6:57 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:
sco wrote:The only way I'd trade Zach is for a guy who is a legit #1 option (or has real potential to be) on a contender. That's where rebuilds start, other than that you are on a treadmill. Finding a #1 guy should be the organization's only goal. Since that isn't likely happening this offseason, it should be gathering and developing assets.

Hopefully Otto opts out so we'll have some $ to use to take on a salary and a guy with potential because the FA list is not exciting.


I don't see Otto opting out. Unless he comes back in the next week and just tears it up the rest of the season, I don't think he can get more than what he is guaranteed from anyone out there.


I'd rather keep him and just let him expire after next season. If he can stay healthy he could really help us next year as a stop-gap while we try to find a long term SF.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1272 » by Dan Z » Thu Feb 20, 2020 7:35 pm

Chi town wrote:
Showtime23 wrote:
sco wrote:I could see him taking a 4/$80 deal rather than a 1/$28 and risking another injury. I could see someone taking a flier at that level if he comes back and shows he healthy and plays week, even for the last 20 games because his injury wasn't deemed chronic.


He will consider opting out like Barnes since he is at a stage valuing security over max potential earnings.
Something close to a Barnes deal should entice him to opt out and sign a multi year to secure his retirement and its a win-win for both sides since Chicago gets full control over a starting caliber SF and gain flexibility for cap space/trading etc.


I’d sign Otto for 4/80. Saves us 10M in cap this summer and you can trade him Dec 15th. That’s better than a one year option and being in limbo. If he signs that cheap he’s a trade asset that could be the main contract and getting a better player like Embiid with more assets.


In that scenario (4/80) what if you're not able to trade him? Meaning that teams aren't interested enough and/or it's difficult to match contracts.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1273 » by MGB8 » Thu Feb 20, 2020 11:22 pm

Porter needs to prove he can stay healthy before any longer new deal.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1274 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:04 am

MGB8 wrote:Porter needs to prove he can stay healthy before any longer new deal.


Yeah there is no way I would resign him if opted out.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1275 » by MrSparkle » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:12 am

Dan Z wrote:
MrSparkle wrote:
Dan Z wrote:
If Otto comes back, plays like he did last year for the Bulls and gets that 4/$80 deal do you re-sign him (if you're the Bulls GM)?

I don't.


Yeah, definitely not.


What do you do with him going forward? If he's not someone to re-sign then he's not in the longterm plans. Do you try to trade him in the offseason or next years trade deadline? He will probably be hard to trade due to his salary.


Well, if he plays well next fall, then I’d trade him ASAP to the best offer.

If he’s injured, he’s just gonna be another sitting salary you wait to expire.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1276 » by Jiipee84 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:08 pm

Finnish sport magazine named urheilulehti speculated with Lauri's Bulls future in their newest number this week.
There was some trade proposals on Lauri what Bulls could consider.

Urheilulehti also interviewed Kristian Palotie who's Finnish basketball coach and NBA commentator.
Palotie said Bulls have failed with Lauri and Lauri hasn't shown any development in 2,5 yrs and in Palotie's opinion it's all about Bulls. Palotie also said Lauri should demand a trade and leave from Bulls.

Here are those trade proposals.

Trade 1
Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen, Kris Dunn,Otto Porter and Cristiano Felicio to San Antonio Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs trades Demar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 2
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen and Cristiano Felicio to Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns trades Kelly Oubre and Cheick Diallo to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 3
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors trades 2020 1st round pick and 2022 TOP14 protected 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.
Because Warriors 2020 1st round pick will likely be TOP5 Bulls can ask Warriors draft a player who fits Bulls needs.
This trade would be possible July 2020.

Trade 4
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Boston Celtics.
Boston Celtics trades Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Memphis 2020 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 5
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oklahoma City Thunder trades future 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls
Because Oklahoma City Thunder has plenty future 1st picks Bulls can get those so many as needed.

Trade 6
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to New York Knicks
New York Knicks trades Julius Randle and extra draft picks to Chicago Bulls.

If you were Bulls GM which one / which ones of these trades would be good to Bulls.
Tell what you think.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1277 » by Dan Z » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:40 am

Jiipee84 wrote:Finnish sport magazine named urheilulehti speculated with Lauri's Bulls future in their newest number this week.
There was some trade proposals on Lauri what Bulls could consider.

Urheilulehti also interviewed Kristian Palotie who's Finnish basketball coach and NBA commentator.
Palotie said Bulls have failed with Lauri and Lauri hasn't shown any development in 2,5 yrs and in Palotie's opinion it's all about Bulls. Palotie also said Lauri should demand a trade and leave from Bulls.

Here are those trade proposals.

Trade 1
Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen, Kris Dunn,Otto Porter and Cristiano Felicio to San Antonio Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs trades Demar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 2
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen and Cristiano Felicio to Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns trades Kelly Oubre and Cheick Diallo to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 3
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors trades 2020 1st round pick and 2022 TOP14 protected 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.
Because Warriors 2020 1st round pick will likely be TOP5 Bulls can ask Warriors draft a player who fits Bulls needs.
This trade would be possible July 2020.

Trade 4
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Boston Celtics.
Boston Celtics trades Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Memphis 2020 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 5
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oklahoma City Thunder trades future 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls
Because Oklahoma City Thunder has plenty future 1st picks Bulls can get those so many as needed.

Trade 6
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to New York Knicks
New York Knicks trades Julius Randle and extra draft picks to Chicago Bulls.

If you were Bulls GM which one / which ones of these trades would be good to Bulls.
Tell what you think.


Trade 1: Can they even do that? Dunn and Demar are both FA's at the end of the season. Then even if you can do this I'm not big on it for the Bulls (Demar and Aldridge are too old at this point).

Trade 2: I don't like it for the Bulls because I'm not big on Oubre. He seems to be a decent player on bad teams.

Trade 3: This trade is okay, but I'd rather see what Markkanen can do going forward.

Trade 4: I'd say no. Langford and Williams are okay but don't do much for me. Neither does the Memphis pick.

Trade 5: Depends on the picks.

Trade 6: Depends on the picks.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1278 » by sco » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:13 am

Jiipee84 wrote:Finnish sport magazine named urheilulehti speculated with Lauri's Bulls future in their newest number this week.
There was some trade proposals on Lauri what Bulls could consider.

Urheilulehti also interviewed Kristian Palotie who's Finnish basketball coach and NBA commentator.
Palotie said Bulls have failed with Lauri and Lauri hasn't shown any development in 2,5 yrs and in Palotie's opinion it's all about Bulls. Palotie also said Lauri should demand a trade and leave from Bulls.

Here are those trade proposals.

Trade 1
Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen, Kris Dunn,Otto Porter and Cristiano Felicio to San Antonio Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs trades Demar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 2
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen and Cristiano Felicio to Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns trades Kelly Oubre and Cheick Diallo to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 3
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors trades 2020 1st round pick and 2022 TOP14 protected 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.
Because Warriors 2020 1st round pick will likely be TOP5 Bulls can ask Warriors draft a player who fits Bulls needs.
This trade would be possible July 2020.

Trade 4
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Boston Celtics.
Boston Celtics trades Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Memphis 2020 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 5
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oklahoma City Thunder trades future 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls
Because Oklahoma City Thunder has plenty future 1st picks Bulls can get those so many as needed.

Trade 6
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to New York Knicks
New York Knicks trades Julius Randle and extra draft picks to Chicago Bulls.

If you were Bulls GM which one / which ones of these trades would be good to Bulls.
Tell what you think.

I don't love any of these. I think the goal should be finding a "near allstar".

On 5 - Any top 10 pick would be be fine.

0n 6 - I proposed a similar deal in trade thread. I went with Lauri, Coby and Felicio for Randle and their 2020 pick. I don't like Randle, but I do like their pick and Randle is a viable starting PF.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1279 » by samwana » Sat Feb 22, 2020 7:50 am

Jiipee84 wrote:Finnish sport magazine named urheilulehti speculated with Lauri's Bulls future in their newest number this week.
There was some trade proposals on Lauri what Bulls could consider.

Urheilulehti also interviewed Kristian Palotie who's Finnish basketball coach and NBA commentator.
Palotie said Bulls have failed with Lauri and Lauri hasn't shown any development in 2,5 yrs and in Palotie's opinion it's all about Bulls. Palotie also said Lauri should demand a trade and leave from Bulls.

Here are those trade proposals.

Trade 1
Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen, Kris Dunn,Otto Porter and Cristiano Felicio to San Antonio Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs trades Demar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 2
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen and Cristiano Felicio to Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns trades Kelly Oubre and Cheick Diallo to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 3
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors trades 2020 1st round pick and 2022 TOP14 protected 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.
Because Warriors 2020 1st round pick will likely be TOP5 Bulls can ask Warriors draft a player who fits Bulls needs.
This trade would be possible July 2020.

Trade 4
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Boston Celtics.
Boston Celtics trades Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Memphis 2020 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 5
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oklahoma City Thunder trades future 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls
Because Oklahoma City Thunder has plenty future 1st picks Bulls can get those so many as needed.

Trade 6
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to New York Knicks
New York Knicks trades Julius Randle and extra draft picks to Chicago Bulls.

If you were Bulls GM which one / which ones of these trades would be good to Bulls.
Tell what you think.
I think if we really going to change up FO and coach, I want our next coach to have a chance with Lauri.

Lauri still has potential and he has had the worst coaches (and FO) over his career. I'd love to see what a real HC can do with him, before another franchise runs away with him. This is one fact I agree with Paxson, we don't know what we have yet. It has everything to do with our toxic environment he created though.

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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1280 » by WindyCityBorn » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:20 am

Jiipee84 wrote:Finnish sport magazine named urheilulehti speculated with Lauri's Bulls future in their newest number this week.
There was some trade proposals on Lauri what Bulls could consider.

Urheilulehti also interviewed Kristian Palotie who's Finnish basketball coach and NBA commentator.
Palotie said Bulls have failed with Lauri and Lauri hasn't shown any development in 2,5 yrs and in Palotie's opinion it's all about Bulls. Palotie also said Lauri should demand a trade and leave from Bulls.

Here are those trade proposals.

Trade 1
Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen, Kris Dunn,Otto Porter and Cristiano Felicio to San Antonio Spurs.
San Antonio Spurs trades Demar DeRozan and LaMarcus Aldridge to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 2
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen and Cristiano Felicio to Phoenix Suns.
Phoenix Suns trades Kelly Oubre and Cheick Diallo to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 3
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Golden State Warriors
Golden State Warriors trades 2020 1st round pick and 2022 TOP14 protected 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.
Because Warriors 2020 1st round pick will likely be TOP5 Bulls can ask Warriors draft a player who fits Bulls needs.
This trade would be possible July 2020.

Trade 4
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Boston Celtics.
Boston Celtics trades Romeo Langford, Grant Williams and Memphis 2020 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls.

Trade 5
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to Oklahoma City Thunder.
Oklahoma City Thunder trades future 1st round pick to Chicago Bulls
Because Oklahoma City Thunder has plenty future 1st picks Bulls can get those so many as needed.

Trade 6
Chicago Bulls trades Lauri Markkanen to New York Knicks
New York Knicks trades Julius Randle and extra draft picks to Chicago Bulls.

If you were Bulls GM which one / which ones of these trades would be good to Bulls.
Tell what you think.


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