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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1261 » by Pax for Prez » Thu Jun 4, 2020 7:15 pm

Pax for Prez wrote:Looks like the Bulls will now pick anywhere between 1-8.

The Warriors, Cavaliers, Timberwolves, Hawks, Pistons, Knicks, Bulls, and Hornets will likely be locked into the top eight lottery slots, a source tells Hoops Rumors. The order within the top eight has yet to be determined, but the structure means the Wizards couldn’t go 0-8 this summer when the season resumes and land a better position in the lottery than those teams that won’t be playing.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/06/latest-on-the-nbas-lottery-plans.html

Top 9 Players

A. Edwards - Georgia
L. Ball - USA
J. Wiseman - Memphis
O. Toppin - Dayton
K. Hayes - Internat. - France
D. Avdija - Internat. - Israel
O. Okongwu - USC
T. Hailburton - Iowa St
I. Okoro - Auburn

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1262 » by VolumePoster » Thu Jun 4, 2020 7:26 pm

Again, we should be compensated for not being given the chance to compete. The teams that are in this extended regular season shouldn't be in the lottery at all.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1264 » by sco » Thu Jun 4, 2020 7:43 pm

Pax for Prez wrote:Looks like the Bulls will now pick anywhere between 1-8.

The Warriors, Cavaliers, Timberwolves, Hawks, Pistons, Knicks, Bulls, and Hornets will likely be locked into the top eight lottery slots, a source tells Hoops Rumors. The order within the top eight has yet to be determined, but the structure means the Wizards couldn’t go 0-8 this summer when the season resumes and land a better position in the lottery than those teams that won’t be playing.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/06/latest-on-the-nbas-lottery-plans.html

Top 9 Players

A. Edwards - Georgia
L. Ball - USA
J. Wiseman - Memphis
O. Toppin - Dayton
K. Hayes - Internat. - France
D. Avdija - Internat. - Israel
O. Okongwu - USC
T. Hailburton - Iowa St
I. Okoro - Auburn

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If true, I'd feel good about missing the expanded playoffs. I'd be thrilled to come away with Edwards, Ball or Wiseman.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1265 » by Dominator83 » Thu Jun 4, 2020 10:21 pm

we got screwed. The bulk of our hard schedule was missed. Definitely could've moved up a spot or 2.

But then again, last year we walked in as the 4 seed, and still walked out with #7 as 3 teams below the 4 spot jumped us. So with this new randomness, maybe this time its lucky #7
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1266 » by kodo » Thu Jun 4, 2020 11:14 pm

Dominater wrote:we got screwed. The bulk of our hard schedule was missed. Definitely could've moved up a spot or 2.

But then again, last year we walked in as the 4 seed, and still walked out with #7 as 3 teams below the 4 spot jumped us. So with this new randomness, maybe this time its lucky #7


It's a weak draft so I figure we will move up. Like Milwaukee jumped to #1 in the Bogut draft.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1267 » by Dominator83 » Thu Jun 4, 2020 11:35 pm

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Dominater wrote:we got screwed. The bulk of our hard schedule was missed. Definitely could've moved up a spot or 2.

But then again, last year we walked in as the 4 seed, and still walked out with #7 as 3 teams below the 4 spot jumped us. So with this new randomness, maybe this time its lucky #7


It's a weak draft so I figure we will move up. Like Milwaukee jumped to #1 in the Bogut draft.

Well, Chris Paul was on the board!

Cleveland moving to #1 in the Anthony Bennett draft was the worst top of draft ive ever seen. 2000 a close second (atleast Kenyon Martin was an all-star level guy)
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1268 » by 23-7 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 12:54 pm

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kodo wrote:
Dominater wrote:we got screwed. The bulk of our hard schedule was missed. Definitely could've moved up a spot or 2.

But then again, last year we walked in as the 4 seed, and still walked out with #7 as 3 teams below the 4 spot jumped us. So with this new randomness, maybe this time its lucky #7


It's a weak draft so I figure we will move up. Like Milwaukee jumped to #1 in the Bogut draft.

Well, Chris Paul was on the board!

Cleveland moving to #1 in the Anthony Bennett draft was the worst top of draft ive ever seen. 2000 a close second (atleast Kenyon Martin was an all-star level guy)


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1269 » by MGB8 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 5:59 pm

VolumePoster wrote:Again, we should be compensated for not being given the chance to compete. The teams that are in this extended regular season shouldn't be in the lottery at all.


I agree but I don't think that's what they are doing. I think the Bulls are locked in at 7 for purposes of lottery balls, but that means that they could go down to #11 and that the most likely pick number is #8 :(.

It would be so much fairer if they reduced the lottery to only those 8 teams who don't get a chance to play a bit more.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1270 » by MGB8 » Fri Jun 5, 2020 6:08 pm

othawhitemeat wrote:I know there is not a lot of star talent in this draft or it seems, but I am very intrigued by the wings, some versatile 4/5's that can defend, and combo guards that will be going in late 1st to mid 2nd. I think some will be busts and many will be better than top of order picks. These are no order to my preference. I did put * on some players I think are underrated and will do well in some type of role with NBA. That does not mean others I am not fan of, but just players that stand out to me.

PF's/C

1) Xavier Tillman (really like him for 4/5, bench player)*
2) Jalen Smith (I'm a big fan of his in today's game - 3 point shooting, block shot ability, and pick-n-roll)*
3) Mamadi Diakite (to me, Taj Like)*
4) Isaiah Stewart (built and can board)
5) Enouch (Louisville, rebounder)



SF's
1) Devin Vassell *
2) Aaron Nesmith*
3) Saddiq Bey*
4) Josh Green (not sure on how I feel about his game)
5) Desmond Bane (to me underrated, seems high IQ, solid d, good shooter, just solid player)*
6) Malik Fitts (I think he will be a steal wherever is drafted if in 2nd). *

CG's/Pg's/Sg's

1) Nico Mannion - seems to be sliding down, but would be a good pick later in first
2) Kira Lewis (I'm not a big fan of pick until later first).
3) Maxey (not my favorite)
4) Bolmaro
5) Maledon (I like his game)*
6) Dosunmu
7) Peyton Pritchard (I like his game and if available in 2nd, really like his, Diakite, Fitts, Tillman, or something similar)*
8) Tyrell Terry
9) Davonte graham undersized but cerebral pg pick (Cassius Winston - can shoot, smart, and lead).*
10) Ramsey TT (interesting prospect - 6'4 and built, can shoot from 3, athletic, but not a good ft shooter).
11) *Markus Howard (I think he has some instant off bench type scorer). Isaiah Thomas (the current not HOF, Abdul-Rauf type player at max).


Devin Vassell is interesting with his very impressive shooting percentages (49 from the field, .415 from 3.. and that was after a .419 from 3 his rookie year). A little thing, and don't know much about his athleticism, ball handling, or defense... and he only got to the line 2.2 times per game...

NBAdraft.net likes Vassell's teammate Patrick Williams as an upside pick - very good length / wingspan and jumping, but questions about his shooting (has had good 3 pt numbers in HS, but shot poorly from FT.. and then as a college frosh shot "meh" from 3 (32% on low volume) but 84% from the stripe, but also on low volume) and weak rebounding numbers for his size. They also like Issac Okoro, who from their profile seems like a Paxson like pick (good defender, high IQ, good but not elite athleticism or length) but he's not a good shooter (at least not yet). But with the new folks in charge... who knows what they look for?

Another guy to look at is Aaron Nesmith, a good length 6'6' wing who shot a spectacular 52% from the college 3 this year (on high volume) and got to the line 4.5 times per game...

haven't watched youtube on any of these guys yet to be able to have any sort of real opinion on them.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1271 » by CoreyVillains » Fri Jun 5, 2020 7:06 pm

Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1272 » by Kurt Heimlich » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:58 am

I'm feeling like theres a top 7ish right now with Edwards Wiseman Ball Hayes Obi Deni and Haliburton.

If we fall to 8 or 9 I'm liking Vassel as a mikal bridges 3 and D type with perhaps a better/more active motor. He doesnt have eye popping vertical explosion and needs to add strength. But his length/motor/shot % are all intriguing.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1273 » by Chi town » Sat Jun 6, 2020 4:16 am

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!



Great video.

Hali will have plenty of time to get his body ready for the league.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1274 » by Senor Chang » Sat Jun 6, 2020 8:22 am

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!



Thanks. I feel he is the best passer, defender, and shooter among he, Ball, and Hayes and yet gets the least respect. The things Ball and Hayes supposedly are better at (creating their own shot) they aren't even that great at. Im waiting on official measurements to make my final call. If Haliburton's wingspan is as long as some say it is then he is a freak at point guard and you must draft him.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1275 » by drosereturn » Sat Jun 6, 2020 10:43 am

Senor Chang wrote:Thanks. I feel he is the best passer, defender, and shooter among he, Ball, and Hayes and yet gets the least respect. The things Ball and Hayes supposedly are better at (creating their own shot) they aren't even that great at. Im waiting on official measurements to make my final call. If Haliburton's wingspan is as long as some say it is then he is a freak at point guard and you must draft him.


The iowa state karma and Ball is Doncic level creator whereas the latter two projects to be average.
Ball also has his brother connection who was drafted number 2 and thus meeting expectations for a top pick.
If the younger Ball is truly better at the same age its a no brainer at 7. Would even have to consider sacrificing 2021.
Ball played against competition that will 100% translate in the NBA far better than the NCAA and posted 17/8/7 and nearly 2 steals.
Those type of triple double stats are evidence he is a star player and provides even more impact.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1276 » by sco » Sat Jun 6, 2020 12:55 pm

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Senor Chang wrote:Thanks. I feel he is the best passer, defender, and shooter among he, Ball, and Hayes and yet gets the least respect. The things Ball and Hayes supposedly are better at (creating their own shot) they aren't even that great at. Im waiting on official measurements to make my final call. If Haliburton's wingspan is as long as some say it is then he is a freak at point guard and you must draft him.


The iowa state karma and Ball is Doncic level creator whereas the latter two projects to be average.
Ball also has his brother connection who was drafted number 2 and thus meeting expectations for a top pick.
If the younger Ball is truly better at the same age its a no brainer at 7. Would even have to consider sacrificing 2021.
Ball played against competition that will 100% translate in the NBA far better than the NCAA and posted 17/8/7 and nearly 2 steals.
Those type of triple double stats are evidence he is a star player and provides even more impact.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1277 » by samwana » Sat Jun 6, 2020 1:51 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!

My favorite right now.. Thanks for making these awesome vids

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1278 » by _txchilibowl_ » Sat Jun 6, 2020 2:52 pm

If there was a market for the pick I'd prefer we trade out of this draft. We need someone to fall in love with a prospect in our range to make that happen. Preferences would be young, cost controlled player or a future pick.

Side note - this team is desperate for a veteran that can play. Someone who's won before and can show the way, push these guys a bit. Scratching my head on who fits that criteria without taking us out of 2021 free agency.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1279 » by CoreyVillains » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:08 pm

Senor Chang wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!



Thanks. I feel he is the best passer, defender, and shooter among he, Ball, and Hayes and yet gets the least respect. The things Ball and Hayes supposedly are better at (creating their own shot) they aren't even that great at. Im waiting on official measurements to make my final call. If Haliburton's wingspan is as long as some say it is then he is a freak at point guard and you must draft him.



He’s probably the weakest ball handler of the group so I guess it depends on expectation for what he could become. I think Hali could be such a good piece next to a guy like Trae Young or Devonte Graham but I’m less excited about his fit next to our guys. Defensively he’s a stud and if he develops his body even a little he’s going to be all-defense worthy imo.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1280 » by CoreyVillains » Sat Jun 6, 2020 3:09 pm

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CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped my Haliburton video on my YouTube that you can watch below! These videos might slow down a bit as I’m working on some other cool draft stuff that I’m not allowed to talk about yet, but I’m gonna try to keep them coming when I can!

My favorite right now.. Thanks for making these awesome vids

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