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Post #1261 » by **kulaz3000** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:17 pm

Repeat 3-peat wrote:

Watch on YouTube

That was a touching tribute, but that crying meme comment though.

What was that comment that was censored out?

Post #1262 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:23 pm

HomoSapien wrote:MJ's going to be on The Jump if anyone's interested.

I think I misunderstood. Rachel Nichol's said we'll hear more from MJ later, but then they just played the clip from his speech. I'm guessing that's all she meant.

Post #1263 » by **HomoSapien** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:31 pm

Post #1264 » by **kulaz3000** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:46 pm

HomoSapien wrote:

This is silly.

His remarks were never about whether he was right or wrong, it was whether he should of aired out the dirty laundry out the way he did.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1265 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Mon Feb 24, 2020 10:57 pm

kulaz3000 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:

Watch on YouTube

That was a touching tribute, but that crying meme comment though.

What was that comment that was censored out?

At @7:15? when he was talking about the time when Kobe replied to him saying "laughing my ass off" after MJ told Kobe he was thinking about baseball at the age of 12?

It was censored on TV, not sure why.

Post #1266 » by **HomoSapien** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:19 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
Repeat 3-peat wrote:

Watch on YouTube

That was a touching tribute, but that crying meme comment though.

What was that comment that was censored out?

"He sent me a text saying laughing my ass off." Not sure why that was censored. It wasn't censored on MSNBC.

Post #1267 » by **RedBulls23** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:39 am

kulaz3000 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:

This is silly.

His remarks were never about whether he was right or wrong, it was whether he should of aired out the dirty laundry out the way he did.

Disagree.

There was a sentiment by some that Jimmy was wrong for what he said, not only wrong for his delivery.

MrFortune3 · Post #1268 » by **MrFortune3** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:47 am

RedBulls23 wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:Yeah that's kind of my point. Bucks are flat out better than both those teams. Right now it's not even close.

I agree, but the Clippers and Lakers have 2 superstars whereas the Bucks have 1. So most assume they would be similar to the Warriors rolling over the East.

People are overlooking Middleton. He's been better than Paul George.

Bucks are being over looked due to perception, not what's actually happening on the court.

It's definitely a perception thing but it's also what happened last year vs Toronto thing.

Mech Engineer · Post #1269 » by **Mech Engineer** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:50 am

Dallas with a 80 pt first half. They have an all time great offense... ..Luka impact.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1270 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:53 am

Beal with back to back nights with 50+ points.

dumbell78 · Post #1271 » by **dumbell78** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:19 am

RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:

This is silly.

His remarks were never about whether he was right or wrong, it was whether he should of aired out the dirty laundry out the way he did.

Disagree.

There was a sentiment by some that Jimmy was wrong for what he said, not only wrong for his delivery.

Exactly, more than a few thought he was a cancer and the issue. Nothing about "airing dirty laundry" from that crowd.

FriedRise · Post #1272 » by **FriedRise** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:28 am

Read on Twitter

GameBredAPBT · Post #1273 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:11 am

Can someone please explain to me how & why Fultz & to a lesser extent Ball were taken as top picks? I didn’t watch much of either during during their stints in college, but I know what Balls translatable strengths were

But Fultz, wow. What were people expecting? Did he not look like this in school? It’s shocking how mediocre he is for a consensus #1 pick

dice · Post #1274 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:42 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:Can someone please explain to me how & why Fultz & to a lesser extent Ball were taken as top picks? I didn’t watch much of either during during their stints in college, but I know what Balls translatable strengths were

But Fultz, wow. What were people expecting? Did he not look like this in school? It’s shocking how mediocre he is for a consensus #1 pick

this is essentially fultz's rookie season. he's 21

both players have had shot issues as pros that they didn't in college

dice · Post #1275 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:46 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:Beal with back to back nights with 50+ points.

and probably the first in league history w/ back to back 50 along w/ 7+ turnovers

dice · Post #1276 » by **dice** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:55 am

RedBulls23 wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:Yeah that's kind of my point. Bucks are flat out better than both those teams. Right now it's not even close.

I agree, but the Clippers and Lakers have 2 superstars whereas the Bucks have 1. So most assume they would be similar to the Warriors rolling over the East.

People are overlooking Middleton. He's been better than Paul George.

Bucks are being over looked due to perception, not what's actually happening on the court.

know how 50/40/90 is considered the gold standard for shooters? middleton is currently at 51/44/90. those having achieved it:

nash (4 times)
bird (2)
price
miller
dirk
KD
curry
brogdon
delle donne

only bird, dirk, KD and curry have done it while scoring 20.0 ppg or more. middleton is at 20.7

MGB8 · Post #1277 » by **MGB8** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:54 pm

dice wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
I agree, but the Clippers and Lakers have 2 superstars whereas the Bucks have 1. So most assume they would be similar to the Warriors rolling over the East.

People are overlooking Middleton. He's been better than Paul George.

Bucks are being over looked due to perception, not what's actually happening on the court.

know how 50/40/90 is considered the gold standard for shooters? middleton is currently at 51/44/90. those having achieved it:

nash (4 times)
bird (2)
price
miller
dirk
KD
curry
brogdon
delle donne

only bird, dirk, KD and curry have done it while scoring 20.0 ppg or more. middleton is at 20.7

I really wouldn't be comparing status with past eras. The stat inflation is real. The quick whistles on the perimeter means players have a ton of space there as compared to in the past, which is enhanced by no whistles for moving screens or picks on the edge.

Meanwhile, Middleton is a very good player (and George is having an awful season for him, though that kind of makes sense given role dynamics and him playing a lot at the 2)... but, as was evident in the all-star game, he's not first tier.

Were Kyrie Irving not injured, he'd have a shot of being there (despite being on a surprisingly semi-dysfunctional Nets team), at .48, .39 (rounding down) and .92 (27.4 ppg). And Devin Booker is at .49, .36, .92... a hot streak from him from 3 gets him to 50/40/90 (26.3 ppg). Unlike Middleton, those two are number one options on their teams.

At just under 20 ppg, you have Gordon Hayward, injuries and all, at .51, .38, .87. Chris Paul is at .49, .37 and .90 (rounding up) and it wouldn't be a shock if he gets hot from 3 towards the end (which would also push his overall FG% up).

And at a low double-digits ppg, Seth Curry is at .48, .43, and .88.

RSP83 · Post #1278 » by **RSP83** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:27 pm

FriedRise wrote:

Read on Twitter

I remember Antawn Jamison pulled this when he was with the Warriors. But maybe he won both or one of the game, I forgot.

TheStig · Post #1279 » by **TheStig** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:43 pm

dumbell78 wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:
kulaz3000 wrote:
This is silly.

His remarks were never about whether he was right or wrong, it was whether he should of aired out the dirty laundry out the way he did.

Disagree.

There was a sentiment by some that Jimmy was wrong for what he said, not only wrong for his delivery.

Exactly, more than a few thought he was a cancer and the issue. Nothing about "airing dirty laundry" from that crowd.

Jimmy was a called a cancer, someone who can't get along, a trobulemaker, bad teammate and so on. You also couldn't win with him and he's not worth the supermax. People double downed on that with the bad situations in Minny and Philly. Two places that traded for him but wouldn't pay him.

Now he went to a real org, with real structure, a real FO, a real HC and a real culture. And the dude is leading them to HCA in the playoffs. That's a real star. Instead of the clowns who traded him and wouldn't pay him.

Southpaw · Post #1280 » by **Southpaw** » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:51 pm

Middleton has been great this season and he seems to be emerging as Robin to Giannis' Batman. The Bucks have been amazing and are the favorites in the East but I can see why not everyone is talking them up as the title favorites. First is because they are a relatively unproven playoff team, with their deepest run being last year against the eventual champs. Second, the supporting cast behind Giannis and Middleton are a little iffy. Bledsoe and Hill are hit and miss in the playoffs, and no one else on the team can create a shot. Lastly, I feel like Giannis' lack of go to move can be a detriment to them in the playoffs. We all saw how he was slowed down by Kawhi and the Raptors last year, and to a lesser extent, in the ASG this year where he didn't have much impact late in the game.

That said, I'm rooting for the Bucks to win because I'm a huge fan of Giannis.