NBA Finals Thread / Around The NBA In The Offseason

shugknight · Post #1301 » by **shugknight** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 7:34 pm

Watson comes back to the Central. Signs with the Pacers.

kodo · Post #1302 » by **kodo** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 7:59 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:
red222 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/InsiderJayNBA/status/351559617496629249[/tweet]

Wow.

Damn, Asik has become a real asset now.

Good for Omer.

BIGGIEsmalls 23 · Post #1303 » by **BIGGIEsmalls 23** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 8:48 pm

CJ Watson headed to the Pacers per WT

kyrv · Post #1304 » by **kyrv** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:17 pm

Stern

He does like him some Lakers.

Per WT

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... -To-Dwight

Time Warner Cable is having discussions with Dwight Howard being given his own show if he re-signs with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Extra compensation, cool.

The NBA has no issue with Time Warner Cable being involving in the Lakers' pitch, but no extra compensation can be promised, according to a league source

OH snap.

"They could simply be presenting ideas about how they plan to cover Howard and the Lakers in the future," said the source.

Ya...that's probably not what they are talking about.

But they could be talking about summer movies right?

Sure, King David.

IcemanGervin · Post #1305 » by **IcemanGervin** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:19 pm

kulps19 wrote:So we show interest in Monta Ellis but have absolutely no money to pay him. This must be for pr or something, he opted out of eleven million this year. Maybe we can sign him for the vet minimum though.

Seriously. Do they believe us Bulls fans to be that stupid? What a joke

Post #1306 » by **Rerisen** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:31 pm

How is going after Monta Ellis even considered a good PR bluff?

I guess maybe he's seen as a high profile name for casual fans???

Don't get it.

The idea that we would give up legit assets for Monta Ellis makes me recoil in horror.

Esp as we can just try and reup Nate first for no loss.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1307 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:31 pm

IcemanGervin wrote:
kulps19 wrote:So we show interest in Monta Ellis but have absolutely no money to pay him. This must be for pr or something, he opted out of eleven million this year. Maybe we can sign him for the vet minimum though.

Seriously. Do they believe us Bulls fans to be that stupid? What a joke

You both realize that it is possible for the Bulls to do sign and trades.

Woody Allen · Post #1308 » by **Woody Allen** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 9:44 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... reke-Evans

This is just unbelievable.

Post #1309 » by **Rerisen** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 10:13 pm

Woody Allen wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228525/Pelicans-Make-Four-Year-$48M-Offer-To-Tyreke-Evans

This is just unbelievable.

Where are all the folks who said this summer was going to be the reckoning for contracts? That NBA players were going to wake up to the new CBA reality.

I see owners closing their eyes as if it doesn't exist.

kodo · Post #1310 » by **kodo** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 10:28 pm

Woody Allen wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228525/Pelicans-Make-Four-Year-$48M-Offer-To-Tyreke-Evans

This is just unbelievable.

That's about how much the Sac board thought he'd go for.

The Pelicans plan on using Evans as a deluxe sixth man similar to the way the San Antonio Spurs use Manu Ginobili, according to Sean Deveney of the Sporting News.

Nice try, everyone knows NO is trying to unload Gordon on any team that listens.

ryan44 · Post #1311 » by **ryan44** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 11:40 pm

Rerisen wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228525/Pelicans-Make-Four-Year-$48M-Offer-To-Tyreke-Evans

This is just unbelievable.

Where are all the folks who said this summer was going to be the reckoning for contracts? That NBA players were going to wake up to the new CBA reality.

I see owners closing their eyes as if it doesn't exist.

This is exactly how teams like the Pelicans and the Kings keep ending up with a ton of ping-pong balls. Although if the Pelicans do get Evans, maybe the asking price for Gordon comes down a bit?

the ultimates · Post #1312 » by **the ultimates** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:52 am

In all honesty I like that the Bulls are being patient because some of these deals and contracts that are on the table that teams are doing make no sense. The Knicks get Bargs when they could have retained Copeland who does the same thing but for a whole lot cheaper. The Pelicans who seem to be making smart moves wanting to give Evans 48 million seems needlessly desperate. No matter what the CBA teams are going to be silly at times in free agency the question is how many and who? So far it looks like the bottom feeders are spending money that is going to probably end up still keeping them bad for the future.

MrSparkle · Post #1313 » by **MrSparkle** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 2:06 am

If Evans ends up in NO, I expect Pelicans to trade Gordon for relief. EVEN IF THEY DON'T, they'll be under the luxury tax for atleast 2 years, so I see no harm in taking the gamble on Evans.

kyrv · Post #1314 » by **kyrv** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:02 am

MrSparkle wrote:If Evans ends up in NO, I expect Pelicans to trade Gordon for relief. EVEN IF THEY DON'T, they'll be under the luxury tax for atleast 2 years, so I see no harm in taking the gamble on Evans.

He said Pelicans.

But seriously, that seems the likely scenario. Someone said Evans would be 6th man (or maybe Eric G. would be), but still, the 6th man usually plays a position such that he can finish games with the best players (like Jamal could play SG for the Clips).

Maybe Evans is okay at SF, but I think at Sac. that experiment failed pretty badly.

So, seems the likely scenario is as you said, move Gordon. They are in the good position of not having to move Gordon first, and not 'having' to trade him for a couple years, so they have some time and don't need to take whatever garbage is offered in the next week or so.

tre11408 · Post #1315 » by **tre11408** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 5:43 am

Rerisen wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/228525/Pelicans-Make-Four-Year-$48M-Offer-To-Tyreke-Evans

This is just unbelievable.

Where are all the folks who said this summer was going to be the reckoning for contracts? That NBA players were going to wake up to the new CBA reality.

I see owners closing their eyes as if it doesn't exist.

They are out having drinks with all the folks who said "the Bulls won't use the MMLE this summer"...

4/48 for Tyreke Evans? How the hell did I miss the news that the Pelicans had hired Isiah Thomas as their GM??

But seriously, like a few others have already pointed out, there's a reason some teams are always in the lottery.

Future Coach · Post #1316 » by **Future Coach** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 6:17 am

kodo wrote:
BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:
red222 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/InsiderJayNBA/status/351559617496629249[/tweet]

Wow.

Damn, Asik has become a real asset now.

Good for Omer.

If this goes down both teams have the makings of being real good. Rockets with Howard, Smith and Harden. Then the Hawks would finally get some legit size next to Horford with Asik. A Horford/Asik frontcourt is a beastly rebounding machine, and would not be fun for the Bulls to see several times a year.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1317 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:49 pm

So apparently both the Rockets and Lakers brought representatives from their affiliate TV stations to talk with Dwight about how much he could make from his own TV show on their station.

Just seems a bit 'circumventy' if you ask me.

BIGGIEsmalls 23 · Post #1318 » by **BIGGIEsmalls 23** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 2:42 pm

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:So apparently both the Rockets and Lakers brought representatives from their affiliate TV stations to talk with Dwight about how much he could make from his own TV show on their station.

Just seems a bit 'circumventy' if you ask me.

What has the NBA come to :cry:

. Now, free agents are offered TV shows as an incentive to sign?

We've come a long way since the days of Jerry Krause:

Amid earlier reports that he was simply making a "courtesty visit" to Chicago--after being overwhelmed by the prospect of playing for the Orlando Magic--McGrady was greeted at O'Hare Airport by team mascot Benny the Bull, the Luvabulls cheerleaders, a small band playing "Sweet Home, Chicago" and a media horde.

And--oh, yes--coach Tim Floyd, General Manager Jerry Krause and his new assistant B.J. Armstrong were on hand to greet McGrady at Gate C-20 as well.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000 ... grant-hill

Mech Engineer · Post #1319 » by **Mech Engineer** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 2:48 pm

BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:What has the NBA come to . Now, free agents are offered TV shows as an incentive to sign?

We've come a long way since the days of Jerry Krause:

Amid earlier reports that he was simply making a "courtesty visit" to Chicago--after being overwhelmed by the prospect of playing for the Orlando Magic--McGrady was greeted at O'Hare Airport by team mascot Benny the Bull, the Luvabulls cheerleaders, a small band playing "Sweet Home, Chicago" and a media horde.

And--oh, yes--coach Tim Floyd, General Manager Jerry Krause and his new assistant B.J. Armstrong were on hand to greet McGrady at Gate C-20 as well.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2000 ... grant-hill

Was Gar Forman the guy in the Benny the Bull suit? :wink:

Post #1320 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 2:48 pm

Future Coach wrote:
kodo wrote:
BIGGIEsmalls 23 wrote:Wow.

Damn, Asik has become a real asset now.

Good for Omer.

If this goes down both teams have the makings of being real good. Rockets with Howard, Smith and Harden. Then the Hawks would finally get some legit size next to Horford with Asik. A Horford/Asik frontcourt is a beastly rebounding machine, and would not be fun for the Bulls to see several times a year.

How would this trade work? If the Rockets sign Dwight they'll be right at the cap. Josh Smith will command around $15 mil and Omer only makes $8 mil. And I don't think Houston has junk salaries to make up the difference.