Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[othawhitemeat]

How about #7 to the Nets for Dinwiddie/LaVert and the 17th pick?

[Chi town]

How about #7 to the Nets for Dinwiddie/LaVert and the 17th pick?

Id be all over that for Dinwiddie.

[sco]

How about #7 to the Nets for Dinwiddie/LaVert and the 17th pick?

Id be all over that for Dinwiddie.

Give me LeVert over Dinwiddie, but yeah, me too. IMO, Levert, if healthy (I know it's a big IF) has the makings of a great all-around player. Dinwiddie is interesting, but he is too inefficient offensively and not enough of a playmaker.

[Chi town]

How about #7 to the Nets for Dinwiddie/LaVert and the 17th pick?

Id be all over that for Dinwiddie.

Give me LeVert over Dinwiddie, but yeah, me too. IMO, Levert, if healthy (I know it's a big IF) has the makings of a great all-around player. Dinwiddie is interesting, but he is too inefficient offensively and not enough of a playmaker.

LaVert is going to get paid. Dinwiddie is on a great deal if like 12m per.

[GimmeDat]

I think Brooklyn would hang up the phone on that one.

[sco]

Id be all over that for Dinwiddie.

Give me LeVert over Dinwiddie, but yeah, me too. IMO, Levert, if healthy (I know it's a big IF) has the makings of a great all-around player. Dinwiddie is interesting, but he is too inefficient offensively and not enough of a playmaker.

LaVert is going to get paid. Dinwiddie is on a great deal if like 12m per.

Posted this in another thread, but I wonder how badly BKN wants to be rid of Crabbe's last year.

Trade #7, Dunn, Felicio, Blakeney for Levert, Dinwiddie, Crabbe

[patryk7754]

How about this for a pro-sports breaking off-season (but realistic)

Trade 1:
LaVert, Dinwiddie, Allen, Crabbe, and two 1sts for AD might be the best available deal for AD.

Trade 2:
Rodions Kurucs and Dzanan Musa to the Suns for 2nd rounder

Decline Shabazz Napier's and Trevor Graham's options

After these moves there is roughly 72.2 mil in cap

Sign Kyrie to max (32.7 mil 2019-20 cap hit) leaves 39.5 in cap.
Sign KD to max (38.15 mil 2019-20 cap hit)
Match Russell and Hollis-Jefferson
sign a bunch of vet min guys

Kyrie/Micheal Carter-Williams
Russell/Corey Brewer
Joe Harris/2nd round pick
KD/??
AD/??


the only flaw that I can think of is that I'm not sure if they can sign FAs before the match their RFAs

[PrimzyBulls81]

How about this for a pro-sports breaking off-season (but realistic)

Trade 1:
LaVert, Dinwiddie, Allen, Crabbe, and two 1sts for AD might be the best available deal for AD.

Trade 2:
Rodions Kurucs and Dzanan Musa to the Suns for 2nd rounder

Decline Shabazz Napier's and Trevor Graham's options

After these moves there is roughly 72.2 mil in cap

Sign Kyrie to max (32.7 mil 2019-20 cap hit) leaves 39.5 in cap.
Sign KD to max (38.15 mil 2019-20 cap hit)
Match Russell and Hollis-Jefferson
sign a bunch of vet min guys

Kyrie/Micheal Carter-Williams
Russell/Corey Brewer
Joe Harris/2nd round pick
KD/??
AD/??


the only flaw that I can think of is that I'm not sure if they can sign FAs before the match their RFAs

This is Bulls forum, not Nets..

[Nate3carp]

How about this for a pro-sports breaking off-season (but realistic)

Trade 1:
LaVert, Dinwiddie, Allen, Crabbe, and two 1sts for AD might be the best available deal for AD.

Trade 2:
Rodions Kurucs and Dzanan Musa to the Suns for 2nd rounder

Decline Shabazz Napier's and Trevor Graham's options

After these moves there is roughly 72.2 mil in cap

Sign Kyrie to max (32.7 mil 2019-20 cap hit) leaves 39.5 in cap.
Sign KD to max (38.15 mil 2019-20 cap hit)
Match Russell and Hollis-Jefferson
sign a bunch of vet min guys

Kyrie/Micheal Carter-Williams
Russell/Corey Brewer
Joe Harris/2nd round pick
KD/??
AD/??


the only flaw that I can think of is that I'm not sure if they can sign FAs before the match their RFAs

This is Bulls forum, not Nets..

+1... add to the fact you cannot keep Russell and RHJ cap holds on the books and sign 2 max guys.

[aramada]

I think Brooklyn would hang up the phone on that one.

They would if both Dinwiddie and Levert are included in the proposal, maybe not if it’s one of the two. I’m looking at Dinwiddie here.

As it stands Brooklyn is projected to have space for right around a max for a 6-10 years vet. If you look at their rotation in regular season and playoffs, only Russell, Harris, and Allen were consistent starters. It looked like they were looking for the right formula for their second wing and the PF position. With Dudley, RHJ, and Carroll coming off the books, it wouldn’t be a bad idea for them to clear more cap space to get another starting wing/big, especially if they get a higher pick in the process. If they target Kyrie as reported, it makes even more sense to make room for him.

For Bulls, Dinwiddie could come in on a similar role as in Brooklyn so we don’t completely give up on Dunn right away. If Dinwiddie shows continued growth he could definitely start at some point.

I like this trade if we are looking to deepen our roster by adding vets

[sco]

I think Brooklyn would hang up the phone on that one.

They would if both Dinwiddie and Levert are included in the proposal, maybe not if it’s one of the two. I’m looking at Dinwiddie here.

As it stands Brooklyn is projected to have space for right around a max for a 6-10 years vet. If you look at their rotation in regular season and playoffs, only Russell, Harris, and Allen were consistent starters. It looked like they were looking for the right formula for their second wing and the PF position. With Dudley, RHJ, and Carroll coming off the books, it wouldn’t be a bad idea for them to clear more cap space to get another starting wing/big, especially if they get a higher pick in the process. If they target Kyrie as reported, it makes even more sense to make room for him.

For Bulls, Dinwiddie could come in on a similar role as in Brooklyn so we don’t completely give up on Dunn right away. If Dinwiddie shows continued growth he could definitely start at some point.

I like this trade if we are looking to deepen our roster by adding vets

I don't get the Dinwiddie love, from Bulls fan perspective. Granted he can score, but he's not very efficient and he's a worse 3pt shooter than Dunn. I don't see much from him as a playmaker either. I think he's another SG who isn't a great shooter. His contract is for about $11M/yr...a decent deal if he's your starter, but no a bargain for his production.

IMO, the play with BKN is for LeVert, but I really don't way to pay #7 for him alone.

[aramada]

I think Brooklyn would hang up the phone on that one.

They would if both Dinwiddie and Levert are included in the proposal, maybe not if it’s one of the two. I’m looking at Dinwiddie here.

As it stands Brooklyn is projected to have space for right around a max for a 6-10 years vet. If you look at their rotation in regular season and playoffs, only Russell, Harris, and Allen were consistent starters. It looked like they were looking for the right formula for their second wing and the PF position. With Dudley, RHJ, and Carroll coming off the books, it wouldn’t be a bad idea for them to clear more cap space to get another starting wing/big, especially if they get a higher pick in the process. If they target Kyrie as reported, it makes even more sense to make room for him.

For Bulls, Dinwiddie could come in on a similar role as in Brooklyn so we don’t completely give up on Dunn right away. If Dinwiddie shows continued growth he could definitely start at some point.

I like this trade if we are looking to deepen our roster by adding vets

I don't get the Dinwiddie love, from Bulls fan perspective. Granted he can score, but he's not very efficient and he's a worse 3pt shooter than Dunn. I don't see much from him as a playmaker either. I think he's another SG who isn't a great shooter. His contract is for about $11M/yr...a decent deal if he's your starter, but no a bargain for his production.

IMO, the play with BKN is for LeVert, but I really don't way to pay #7 for him alone.

58% TS seems very efficient to me. Dunn is at 48%...
His 3-pt shooting is inconsistent but it’s at a high volume. Dunn only shoots wide open 3s. Also, I’d love if Dunn had that ability to finish at the basket and shoot over 6 FTs per 36 that Spencer has. I’m not married to the idea as We may just want to roll the dice on Coby White, but value wise it’s intriguing

[poolshark52]

How about this for a pro-sports breaking off-season (but realistic)

Trade 1:
LaVert, Dinwiddie, Allen, Crabbe, and two 1sts for AD might be the best available deal for AD.

Trade 2:
Rodions Kurucs and Dzanan Musa to the Suns for 2nd rounder

Decline Shabazz Napier's and Trevor Graham's options

After these moves there is roughly 72.2 mil in cap

Sign Kyrie to max (32.7 mil 2019-20 cap hit) leaves 39.5 in cap.
Sign KD to max (38.15 mil 2019-20 cap hit)
Match Russell and Hollis-Jefferson
sign a bunch of vet min guys

Kyrie/Micheal Carter-Williams
Russell/Corey Brewer
Joe Harris/2nd round pick
KD/??
AD/??


the only flaw that I can think of is that I'm not sure if they can sign FAs before the match their RFAs

I"d trade the Bulls second rounder for Kurucs and Musa in a New York Minute.

[League Circles]

Anyone interested in absorbing Chris Paul?

[panthermark]

Anyone interested in absorbing Chris Paul?

Nope!
He turned 34 this month.
Have you seen his contact?
2019-20: $38.5M
2020-21: $41.3M
2021-22: $44.2M

The guy I want to absorb (assuming we don't trade for Jru, or land Brogdon) is Jeff Teague from Minny.
Turns 31 in two weeks.
2019-20: $19.0M

I have that almost equal to signing Beverly (who turns 31 in July)...mostly because Teague makes good trade bait (salary wise) and is off the books after a year. He knows his role on this team would be temporary starter/mentor. This also depends on if we draft a PG or not.

[sco]

Anyone interested in absorbing Chris Paul?

I think the right question is how many 1sts would Houston give to be rid of him?

[Peelboy]

Wonder if this might be feasible: Bulls trade #7 and top-10 protected pick swap in 2020 or top 8 2021 or top 6 2022 (or reverts to a 2d) for #4. Why for Bulls - clearly Garland. Why for Lakers - they still get one of the consensus "2d 4" in Garland, White, Hunter, Culver (probably Hunter/Culver), and add a potential pick in mid-late lottery in a coming year to get another solid piece. Also gives them a potential chip for AD trade (or other trade), again along the thinking that difference between 4 and 7 isn't generally that great (it is for Bulls because of PG need) and another potential pick in the 7-15 range in next couple years is valuable. If they want to offload salary can do that as well.

[kodo]

Wonder if this might be feasible: Bulls trade #7 and top-10 protected pick swap in 2020 or top 8 2021 or top 6 2022 (or reverts to a 2d) for #4. Why for Bulls - clearly Garland. Why for Lakers - they still get one of the consensus "2d 4" in Garland, White, Hunter, Culver (probably Hunter/Culver), and add a potential pick in mid-late lottery in a coming year to get another solid piece. Also gives them a potential chip for AD trade (or other trade), again along the thinking that difference between 4 and 7 isn't generally that great (it is for Bulls because of PG need) and another potential pick in the 7-15 range in next couple years is valuable. If they want to offload salary can do that as well.

Feasible, because LA will want as many picks as possible to acquire AD from NOP who will be in full rebuild now that they have Zion in their pocket. There's no need to build around Jrue Holiday like they originally planned.

But I don't think this FO has ever traded a high 1st round pick (without another pick coming back). This is basically a scouting driven front office. Our GM and lead Assistant GM are both scouts. Our PBO was personally at Morant games.

[sco]

Wonder if this might be feasible: Bulls trade #7 and top-10 protected pick swap in 2020 or top 8 2021 or top 6 2022 (or reverts to a 2d) for #4. Why for Bulls - clearly Garland. Why for Lakers - they still get one of the consensus "2d 4" in Garland, White, Hunter, Culver (probably Hunter/Culver), and add a potential pick in mid-late lottery in a coming year to get another solid piece. Also gives them a potential chip for AD trade (or other trade), again along the thinking that difference between 4 and 7 isn't generally that great (it is for Bulls because of PG need) and another potential pick in the 7-15 range in next couple years is valuable. If they want to offload salary can do that as well.

Feasible, because LA will want as many picks as possible to acquire AD from NOP who will be in full rebuild now that they have Zion in their pocket. There's no need to build around Jrue Holiday like they originally planned.

But I don't think this FO has ever traded a high 1st round pick (without another pick coming back). This is basically a scouting driven front office. Our GM and lead Assistant GM are both scouts. Our PBO was personally at Morant games.

I think when Pax does something like that, we'll know he's on the hot seat.

I think doing a deal like that for Morant is one thing, but to do it for Garland, a guy who is "hot" because he didn't play enough for his flaws to become apparent, is a desperation bet.

If I'm desperate, I see if there's any interest by a Kyrie or a Kemba - if so, use #7 to offload bad contracts and give yourself a max slot.

[madvillian]

Chris Paul is available. Chicago should kick the tires on him. See what they want. See if another team could get involved to help with salary. Who knows what he'd even go for, not much that's for sure.