OT Bears 2019/20 season

[dice]

I don't think their receiving corps is all that bad- Robinson, Mooney, Miller, Kmet, even Jimmy Graham. Their RB is not very good. I still think Foles is a decent QB. The line IMO is the biggest problem. If you can't run the ball, and you can't throw it downfield due to poor pass protection, then all you have left is short passing, and if the defense knows that's what you'll do, that isn't going to work very well either. And even when they did manage to move the ball a little bit last night, on a couple of drives, stupid penalties by the line killed the drive.

It's a lot to fix- needing 2,3,4 upgrades on the line, plus new backs, plus new QB. It won't be an easy fix, but they've done virtually nothing to fix the line for the last 5 years.

I like Montgomery, I don't believe the lack of a running game falls entirely on him. Granted, He is not the type of guy who could do it all by himself. I think the real problem is with the offensive line. If Montgomery had a better line with more holes, I think he could put up numbers similar to lets say a Matt Forte.

i had forgotten how productive forte was with the bears - in his 8 seasons here he averaged over 4 yards a carry and over 100 yards from scrimmage per game

[Chi town]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

[dice]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

[Jeffster81]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

[Kurt Heimlich]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

I'd love either for the bears and of course we wont have a shot at either. But given the choice I'm taking lawrence 11 times out of 10.

[the ultimates]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

I don't think people were saying Burrows or Tua were generational talents especially Tua with his injury issues.

[dougthonus]

If we get a legit run game then I think it does with this defense. If we some how pull of a RB and OL then I would be very confident that we are a legit top team that can pull off some upsets in the playoffs. Right now we’re most likely going to get blown out by the packers in the playoffs or miss the playoffs.

I don't know that any of the RBs you named without somehow getting a big OL upgrade will give us a decent run game. I agree if we had one, this team would be a lot better, but while I'm not confident in Montgomery, I'm not sure I'd be confident in anyone but Barry Sanders behind this line.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

Not even close, it’s Lawrence by a country mile.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

I don't think people were saying Burrows or Tua were generational talents especially Tua with his injury issues.

Burrows wasn’t either. He was a transfer from OSU who had one incredible season at LSU, but generational talent was never a term used for him. Generational talents generally don’t transfer schools because they can’t win the starting job.

Kudos to him for the massive improvement and he looks like he’ll be good in the NFL.

[Dresden]

I don't think Lawrence is as good as some people think he is. He looks great because he plays on a great team, and is usually playing while his team is way ahead. I thought he got exposed a bit in that one national championship game. His accuracy seems a bit suspect, and right now he's throwing to a lot of wide open receivers. It will be different in the nfl. I'm not saying he won't be good, but I don't think he's on the same level as say, Andrew Luck was coming out of college.

[dougthonus]

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

Maybe ignore the word generational, because I think that might be loaded.

QBs that look highly like to be franchise QBs and will absolutely go #1 regardless of who is on the clock, then Lawrence is such a guy, so were Burrow and Luck. Tua didn't seem to fit that description given he went #5 overall. It didn't seem like he was going to be #1 even if healthy (Borrow), and he wasn't #2 overall (and if he were viewed on that same level then odds are the injury wouldn't have been enough to push him down to #5).

At any rate, Lawrence is a guy people believe in very strongly and is expected to go #1 overall regardless of who is on the clock. It doesn't mean everyone is right, there are definitely QBs that people thought were no doubt franchise guys that didn't end up being that. Of course opinions could change by the draft if Lawrence plays worse than expected or Fields plays much better than expected.

[dice]

Anyone take Fields over Lawrence?

I’m starting to think so.

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

i don't think there been a guy considered more of a sure thing since luck

[Susan]

lawrence is pretty much universally considered a generational talent. most don't even have fields as the 2nd best prospect in the draft, meaning that lawrence is viewed as head and shoulders above fields

Is Lawrence a "generational talent" though? I have no doubt Lawrence will be a damn good NFL QB but "generational" is getting thrown around too often. Luck was generational, Burrows is generational, Tua is generational, etc, if everybody is generational then nobody is generational. I don't see that much of a difference between Lawrence and Fields, to be honest.

i don't think there been a guy considered more of a sure thing since luck

And before that Peyton Manning.

Not to say Fields couldn't be better, I literally have no idea but Lawrence is the once in a decade type of hype.

[Susan]

Wild year in the NFL.

Rams getting throttled in Miami. Would love a Vikings W.

[dice]

salaries of interior bears O-linemen starting today:

0.88 mil ifedi
0.68 mil bars
0.43 mil mustipher (lowest paid on roster)

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Hey a Mitch sighting

[Susan]

More injuries on the o-line, Nagy needs to playcall to overcome that.

Not a bad flow thus far. Offense moved the ball, defense got stout near the redzone.

[Susan]

Hey a Mitch sighting

Using him in a Taysom Hill role would be a nice change of pace.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Gonna want to defend the best running back in the league. With Thomas and Sanders out, how Kamari ends up single covered by Mack is inexcusable. Should be doubled every time.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Doink!