NBA Trade Thread # 3

[Grodoboldo]

I'm really not sure what Detroit's plan is at the moment. They've got almost nothing going for them other than Grant, so trading him is in a way counter-productive, but I'll suggest a trade anyway:

Pistons Trade: J. Grant, Plumlee, and Delon Wright
Bulls Trade: Coby White, Wendell Carter, 2020 1st Round Pick, and Otto Porter

Why For The Bulls: We finally give Zach a sidekick who can play and defend multiple positions. If Jerami's "stardom" proves to be a fluke, then we have a high-level role player who is still exceptionally valuable. Plumlee and Wright aren't spectacular, but they give us steady and dependable production at our two weakest spots. Some may feel like it's an expensive package for a guy who is still unproven as a star, but the truth is that this trade really makes us into a significantly deeper and more potent team.

Why For The Pistons: While Grant's having a great year, it's hard to imagine a viable path to build a team around him. He's 27-years-old, on a completely different timeline than whoever they'll draft, and only locked up for two more seasons. Instead, the Pistons convert Grant into two young and recent lottery picks and a draft pick while also freeing up some financial flexibility.

New Lineup:

C. Markkanen/Plumlee/Kornett
PF.Grant/Young
SF.P. Williams/Valentine
SG.LaVine/Temple
PG.Satoransky/Wright/Arcidiacano

Thoughts?

Well, I don't really know if Grant is worth more, but like you just said, he's all that Detroit has going for them, so I doubt that they'd let him go for a single first rounder and two somewhat disappointing young prospects.

[Bulldog23]

Small trade for Ish Smith and Troy Brown for Felicio & Kornet and 2nd pick.

[sco]

I'm really not sure what Detroit's plan is at the moment. They've got almost nothing going for them other than Grant, so trading him is in a way counter-productive, but I'll suggest a trade anyway:

Pistons Trade: J. Grant, Plumlee, and Delon Wright
Bulls Trade: Coby White, Wendell Carter, 2020 1st Round Pick, and Otto Porter

Why For The Bulls: We finally give Zach a sidekick who can play and defend multiple positions. If Jerami's "stardom" proves to be a fluke, then we have a high-level role player who is still exceptionally valuable. Plumlee and Wright aren't spectacular, but they give us steady and dependable production at our two weakest spots. Some may feel like it's an expensive package for a guy who is still unproven as a star, but the truth is that this trade really makes us into a significantly deeper and more potent team.

Why For The Pistons: While Grant's having a great year, it's hard to imagine a viable path to build a team around him. He's 27-years-old, on a completely different timeline than whoever they'll draft, and only locked up for two more seasons. Instead, the Pistons convert Grant into two young and recent lottery picks and a draft pick while also freeing up some financial flexibility.

New Lineup:

C. Markkanen/Plumlee/Kornett
PF.Grant/Young
SF.P. Williams/Valentine
SG.LaVine/Temple
PG.Satoransky/Wright/Arcidiacano

Thoughts?

I would totally do it, but IMO Detroit wants to keep Grant, the same way we want to keep Lavine. If White and Carter were having decent years, maybe, but both were just benched for bad play. If you want Grant, it's gonna be for something like Lauri and 2 firsts or PWill and a 1st...yeah, that much. Maybe we could see what Thad and Sato would fetch us to maybe get you one of those 1sts.

[Andi Obst]

Small trade for Ish Smith and Troy Brown for Felicio & Kornet and 2nd pick.

Not a big Ish Smith guy, but I like the idea of going after Brown and/or Bonga for cheap. Maybe Wagner, too, since he has disappeared from the rotation again. I have absolutely no idea what the Wizards are doing (I doubt they know), but I think all 3 are talented young players and will end up being really cheap.

[leo921]

Try for something like Lowry for Otto/Carter

Raptors need a center give them Carter and Otto gives them cap space. Lowry gives us a true starting PG to help everyone including Zack/Lauri/Williams. I would try to resign Lowry on a big 1 yr contract so we would have Lowry/Thad/Sato all expire at the same time and be able to shop for better free agents while still being a competive team. Sign someone like Holmes or Noel in FA to man the center spot.

[gobullschi]

Small trade for Ish Smith and Troy Brown for Felicio & Kornet and 2nd pick.

Not a big Ish Smith guy, but I like the idea of going after Brown and/or Bonga for cheap. Maybe Wagner, too, since he has disappeared from the rotation again. I have absolutely no idea what the Wizards are doing (I doubt they know), but I think all 3 are talented young players and will end up being really cheap.

I like Bonga’s upside.

[aramada]

If Thad and Sato are so sought after, we could arbitrage them for top talent- Thad + Sato + 1st doesn’t get you a Beal type, but if you trade Thad and Sato for a 1st each and then repackage 3 picks and another non LaVine /Williams asset, you could get another star before the deadline
Idk who would fit the bill at this point... I guess Beal, KAT (ew), or Vucevic+Gordon?
I’m the first one to be against trading Thad for a 1st on a standalone basis, but if it can lead to us being better off long term while remaining in a position to chase the playoffs, I’m all for it

[MrSparkle]

Lauri/Arci for Obi/Knox/FRP (top-18 protected with reduced 15 & 12 protections until 23)

I feel like Obi is the anti-thesis of Thibs. Seems like a bust, but Donovan could unlock his offensive potential, like he did with Thad.

[sco]

If Thad and Sato are so sought after, we could arbitrage them for top talent- Thad + Sato + 1st doesn’t get you a Beal type, but if you trade Thad and Sato for a 1st each and then repackage 3 picks and another non LaVine /Williams asset, you could get another star before the deadline
Idk who would fit the bill at this point... I guess Beal, KAT (ew), or Vucevic+Gordon?
I’m the first one to be against trading Thad for a 1st on a standalone basis, but if it can lead to us being better off long term while remaining in a position to chase the playoffs, I’m all for it

I'm 100% on board with this, but doubt we get a 1st for each. I'd add Grant and Wood to that list, either team would have to think hard about 3 1sts given that neither guy is enough to carry a team (but would be great pairings with Zach).

[aramada]

If Thad and Sato are so sought after, we could arbitrage them for top talent- Thad + Sato + 1st doesn’t get you a Beal type, but if you trade Thad and Sato for a 1st each and then repackage 3 picks and another non LaVine /Williams asset, you could get another star before the deadline
Idk who would fit the bill at this point... I guess Beal, KAT (ew), or Vucevic+Gordon?
I’m the first one to be against trading Thad for a 1st on a standalone basis, but if it can lead to us being better off long term while remaining in a position to chase the playoffs, I’m all for it

I'm 100% on board with this, but doubt we get a 1st for each. I'd add Grant and Wood to that list, either team would have to think hard about 3 1sts given that neither guy is enough to carry a team (but would be great pairings with Zach).

I’d probably give 2 firsts for Grant or Wood

[sco]

If Thad and Sato are so sought after, we could arbitrage them for top talent- Thad + Sato + 1st doesn’t get you a Beal type, but if you trade Thad and Sato for a 1st each and then repackage 3 picks and another non LaVine /Williams asset, you could get another star before the deadline
Idk who would fit the bill at this point... I guess Beal, KAT (ew), or Vucevic+Gordon?
I’m the first one to be against trading Thad for a 1st on a standalone basis, but if it can lead to us being better off long term while remaining in a position to chase the playoffs, I’m all for it

I'm 100% on board with this, but doubt we get a 1st for each. I'd add Grant and Wood to that list, either team would have to think hard about 3 1sts given that neither guy is enough to carry a team (but would be great pairings with Zach).

I’d probably give 2 firsts for Grant or Wood

Ok, but it's really saying you'd give our 1st plus Sato and Thad (or Lauri).

[Kukoc-Lauri]

T.Young and Satoransky for Zubac, Kennard and two second round picks. Clippers sign Drummond in buyout market. Clippers trade Oturu and second round pick for Mcgee. Mutual favors in two seperate but connected deals.

[aramada]

I'm 100% on board with this, but doubt we get a 1st for each. I'd add Grant and Wood to that list, either team would have to think hard about 3 1sts given that neither guy is enough to carry a team (but would be great pairings with Zach).

I’d probably give 2 firsts for Grant or Wood

Ok, but it's really saying you'd give our 1st plus Sato and Thad (or Lauri).

If Sato gets us a first, I’d package it with our first for Grant or Wood.
I do think Rockets keep Wood long term though

Here’s a Grant trade:
Bulls get Grant, Wright, filler (McGruder, Okafor)
Pistons get Clarkson, Porter, Jazz 23 first, Bulls 21 first
Jazz get Sato

Jazz gain longer term flexibility by unloading Clarkson and get a guard/wing that’s more complementary to Conley and Mitchell

[kodo]

I'm really not sure what Detroit's plan is at the moment. They've got almost nothing going for them other than Grant, so trading him is in a way counter-productive, but I'll suggest a trade anyway:

Pistons Trade: J. Grant, Plumlee, and Delon Wright
Bulls Trade: Coby White, Wendell Carter, 2020 1st Round Pick, and Otto Porter

Why For The Bulls: We finally give Zach a sidekick who can play and defend multiple positions. If Jerami's "stardom" proves to be a fluke, then we have a high-level role player who is still exceptionally valuable. Plumlee and Wright aren't spectacular, but they give us steady and dependable production at our two weakest spots. Some may feel like it's an expensive package for a guy who is still unproven as a star, but the truth is that this trade really makes us into a significantly deeper and more potent team.

Why For The Pistons: While Grant's having a great year, it's hard to imagine a viable path to build a team around him. He's 27-years-old, on a completely different timeline than whoever they'll draft, and only locked up for two more seasons. Instead, the Pistons convert Grant into two young and recent lottery picks and a draft pick while also freeing up some financial flexibility.

New Lineup:

C. Markkanen/Plumlee/Kornett
PF.Grant/Young
SF.P. Williams/Valentine
SG.LaVine/Temple
PG.Satoransky/Wright/Arcidiacano

Thoughts?

I think it makes sense for both teams, and Weaver is plenty willing to deal.

I think in reality they keep Jerami until they can replace him as the face of the franchise with a youngster, and I don't know if that's ever going to be Killian or Sekou. Losing for lotto balls is part of the plan but losing games routinely by 20+ instead of 4 could damage the brand, which would certainly happen if Jerami were replaced with someone like Coby. I would love to do a smaller version of this for Plumlee, who is rumored to be available. He's a more veteran and full size C and he plays a lot like Thad on offense, being an outlet on the P&R and moving the ball to shooters. He's from the Denver system, and AK would be very familiar with him.

I think Weaver trading Jerami for a high pick is more likely after this year's draft, which is more likely to produce someone they can market and make Grant movable.

[WindyCityBorn]

I’d probably give 2 firsts for Grant or Wood

Ok, but it's really saying you'd give our 1st plus Sato and Thad (or Lauri).

If Sato gets us a first, I’d package it with our first for Grant or Wood.
I do think Rockets keep Wood long term though

Here’s a Grant trade:
Bulls get Grant, Wright, filler (McGruder, Okafor)
Pistons get Clarkson, Porter, Jazz 23 first, Bulls 21 first
Jazz get Sato

Jazz gain longer term flexibility by unloading Clarkson and get a guard/wing that’s more complementary to Conley and Mitchell

There is no way I would trade our pick this year before finding out where it lands. I definitely would not trade a top 3 pick for Grant or Woods.

[Chi town]

If Thad and Sato are so sought after, we could arbitrage them for top talent- Thad + Sato + 1st doesn’t get you a Beal type, but if you trade Thad and Sato for a 1st each and then repackage 3 picks and another non LaVine /Williams asset, you could get another star before the deadline
Idk who would fit the bill at this point... I guess Beal, KAT (ew), or Vucevic+Gordon?
I’m the first one to be against trading Thad for a 1st on a standalone basis, but if it can lead to us being better off long term while remaining in a position to chase the playoffs, I’m all for it

I think this is what AK is looking for. Lauri and our 1st for Vuc. Then trade WCJ and Sato for a 1st and player and package that 1st to get Vuc.

I don’t think Magic will trade Vuc though. I think they will dump Gordon and Ross and reload w their pick and Fultz and Isaac next to Vuc.

[Chi town]

Ok, but it's really saying you'd give our 1st plus Sato and Thad (or Lauri).

If Sato gets us a first, I’d package it with our first for Grant or Wood.
I do think Rockets keep Wood long term though

Here’s a Grant trade:
Bulls get Grant, Wright, filler (McGruder, Okafor)
Pistons get Clarkson, Porter, Jazz 23 first, Bulls 21 first
Jazz get Sato

Jazz gain longer term flexibility by unloading Clarkson and get a guard/wing that’s more complementary to Conley and Mitchell

There is no way I would trade our pick this year before finding out where it lands. I definitely would not trade a top 3 pick for Grant or Woods.

For a player like Grant you do because you will make the playoffs and that pick will be late teens.

[WindyCityBorn]

If Sato gets us a first, I’d package it with our first for Grant or Wood.
I do think Rockets keep Wood long term though

Here’s a Grant trade:
Bulls get Grant, Wright, filler (McGruder, Okafor)
Pistons get Clarkson, Porter, Jazz 23 first, Bulls 21 first
Jazz get Sato

Jazz gain longer term flexibility by unloading Clarkson and get a guard/wing that’s more complementary to Conley and Mitchell

There is no way I would trade our pick this year before finding out where it lands. I definitely would not trade a top 3 pick for Grant or Woods.

For a player like Grant you do because you will make the playoffs and that pick will be late teens.

We don't know that. What if some player(s) get injured which is strong possibility with our team or he doesn't mesh like you expect? Dude has literally only been balling at close to star level for half a season.

[aramada]

There is no way I would trade our pick this year before finding out where it lands. I definitely would not trade a top 3 pick for Grant or Woods.

For a player like Grant you do because you will make the playoffs and that pick will be late teens.

We don't know that. What if some player(s) get injured which is strong possibility with our team or he doesn't mesh like you expect? Dude has literally only been balling at close to star level for half a season.

I guess you can protect it top 3, which covers the 1% chance a major injury happens AND we win the lottery

[cool007]

When is the trade deadline? Next week??