Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

[nitetrain8603]

Bills choked this game and deserved to lose. Refusing to run the ball the first half of the game is on them.

All of these OCs and coaches do the same stupid stuff and overthink the game. Chiefs love to send the blitz and get pressure on the QB.

Bills acted like they never expected that because their playbook is that good. Have a goddammit scouting report. Run the fkn ball, soften the defense then it will open it over the top.

If I'm james cook I demand a trade out of there

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[fleet]

Oh God. Here we go with the annual 2 weeks of the Kelce, the Taylor Swift, yadayada

[TheGOATRises007]

The Bears make the SB next season to stop KC's 4-peat.

One can hope.

[patryk7754]

The Bears make the SB next season to stop KC's 4-peat.

One can hope.

What’s crazy is that I think they’ll be better next year. At least on offense. Worthy will have a year of experience, rice will be back and I assume Hopkins will be back and he and Mahomes will have an offseason to learn each other. I also think they target one of the top TEs this draft

[Dresden]

Not being able to pick up those short yardage plays eventually caught up with BUF. KC figured out how to stop their QB sneaks, and that really turned the tide of the game when BUF failed on 4th and short. And again, no one has an answer for Mahomes and that KC offense, that seems to be able to generate points whenever they need to.

Also crucial was KC converting a 2 point play, while BUF failed on two of them, including one from the one yard line. That's a 6 point swing.

[Dresden]

PHI really demolished WAS- I didn't see that coming. Turnovers hurt them though.

[Charlesareed]

I got Philly winning the SB I can’t see KC stopping saquon barkley

[Chi town]

BenJ has some stones hiring a 28yr old TE coach.

Kid is probably Ben Jr.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

BenJ has some stones hiring a 28yr old TE coach.

Kid is probably Ben Jr.

He will probably just be his puppet.

[chitowndish]

I don't know much about the OC but I think that makes sense to get a young guy that needs to learn but has potential. Established guy are going to want to call plays and then they would probably tend to want to do things their way even if that starts to happen over time. One thing I like about Doyle is good coaches seemed to have kept the kid around and he seems to be rising quickly for his age. I don't have strong opinions about the guy but I think that type of candidate makes sense. I did want that offensive line coach but I don't mind the way he went that's kind of the benefit of having a good offensive HC is you don't need a strong and strongly opinionated OC you need a guy willing to implement your vision.

I do like where we went on DC that seems perfect for us and I think it could be a great long term fit because both teams may not look for him to HC and Allen may just find that he'd rather be a DC and be content where he is but still be really effective. There is a post comparing the effectiveness of his defenses compared to how much money was spent on them and it was pretty shocking. That is partly on the GM but it does take a good coach to get results out of guys so I like this move a lot.

Really excited we get an extra 3rd round pick this year and next year too and that's a good place to take a IOL. I do think we should address a lot of our offensive line issues in FA, I want to do both honestly get multiple vets in there that can contribute today and I'd also draft some guys to bring along. I don't mind going BPA with that first pick, it doesn't sound like there is going to be a really elite tackle or edge so I don't mind taking a swing at what is there like if that RB guy is there I think sometimes you can take advantage of the league over or undervaluing positions and they may be undervaluing RB a bit and it would nice to have a strong running game. We need IOL and they tend to come later, if there was an elite edge prospect or LT I'd probably feel differently but it doesn't seem like that is the case.

[Almost Retired]

The new OC won't be calling plays. He's going to be the guy who compiles the data, works with the players, and in particular has been vetted under the Sean Payton crucible where work ethic I paramount:
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/chicago_bears_hire_a_28_year_old_as_offensive_coordinator/s1_16634_41646157

[fleet]

BenJ has some stones hiring a 28yr old TE coach.

Kid is probably Ben Jr.

He will probably just be his puppet.

Doyle will implement the BJ install every week/season. Coordinator literally. Probably a great communicator and play designer to collaborate with for BJ.

[dougthonus]

Not being able to pick up those short yardage plays eventually caught up with BUF. KC figured out how to stop their QB sneaks, and that really turned the tide of the game when BUF failed on 4th and short. And again, no one has an answer for Mahomes and that KC offense, that seems to be able to generate points whenever they need to.

Also crucial was KC converting a 2 point play, while BUF failed on two of them, including one from the one yard line. That's a 6 point swing.

I was chatting on twitter about the game, and I said I feel like Buffalo should win, but you just can't bet against Mahomes. He's Jordan at this point. It doesn't matter if the other team is more talented, it doesn't matter what else is going on, you just can't bet against him.

And this game was a microcosm of that for all the reasons you said, not just Mahomes obviously, but KC just makes these crucial plays. When there is a critical "game on the line" type moment. KC makes the play. It's really hard to overcome that. It's like you have to beat them big and consistently.

Also, obviously no genius in this statement either, I think it's now 17 straight one score games they've won.

[molepharmer]

The new OC won't be calling plays. He's going to be the guy who compiles the data, works with the players, and in particular has been vetted under the Sean Payton crucible where work ethic I paramount:
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/chicago_bears_hire_a_28_year_old_as_offensive_coordinator/s1_16634_41646157

So Dennis Allen was at least familiar with Doyle. I wonder if during the Bears talking to D Shaw, they asked Shaw about Doyle - maybe Shaw even told the Bears he wasn't interested in working for Chicago but that they should look at Doyle. Probably only two or three degrees of separation among all these NFL/NCAA coaches.

edit: Another connection - Doyle was on Luke Getsy's staff at the Senior Bowl in 2023. He might have told Poles that Doyle was a promising young coach.

[fleet]

Shaw could have been a Rooney rule guy. Honestly I do not understand why some of these guys don’t be like Aaron Glenn and tell teams they aren’t interested in being used like that. But there must be some practical angle to come on in

[nitetrain8603]

Not being able to pick up those short yardage plays eventually caught up with BUF. KC figured out how to stop their QB sneaks, and that really turned the tide of the game when BUF failed on 4th and short. And again, no one has an answer for Mahomes and that KC offense, that seems to be able to generate points whenever they need to.

Also crucial was KC converting a 2 point play, while BUF failed on two of them, including one from the one yard line. That's a 6 point swing.

I was chatting on twitter about the game, and I said I feel like Buffalo should win, but you just can't bet against Mahomes. He's Jordan at this point. It doesn't matter if the other team is more talented, it doesn't matter what else is going on, you just can't bet against him.

And this game was a microcosm of that for all the reasons you said, not just Mahomes obviously, but KC just makes these crucial plays. When there is a critical "game on the line" type moment. KC makes the play. It's really hard to overcome that. It's like you have to beat them big and consistently.

Also, obviously no genius in this statement either, I think it's now 17 straight one score games they've won.

I will say this. Buffalo had boneheaded coaching mistakes. Not using Cook over and over again against KC was a huge mistake. Whenever you face a tough defense always uses your RB so they feel that threat. Instead for most of the game KC didn't have to worry about the threat of the run and just dropped guys back into pass coverage and blitz.

With that stated there was more than a fair share of calls going KCs way. The 4th and 1, the worthy "catch" were bad looks for the NFL

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[dougthonus]

Shaw could have been a Rooney rule guy. Honestly I do not understand why some of these guys don’t be like Aaron Glenn and tell teams they aren’t interested in being used like that. But there must be some practical angle to come on in

I think there is a huge practical angle.

For context, in my own career, I've managed groups of teams for the past 15 years or so, and I was trying to break into the C-Suite as a CIO. It's just really hard to do that. Your most likely path is to be promoted at the company you are at (which actually did happen to me this year, hooray!), but I would take every interview I got for executive level jobs whether I was interested or not.

There weren't a whole bunch of them, but I just wanted the practice. I wanted to see what people would ask, what types of things I would need to be able to answer. I feel you have very little hope of nailing that type of interview your first time around, but you sure do get better at it by getting more reps.

Also, you always have the chance that you just blow someone away even if you are a serious underdog candidate. This was the case for Mike Tomlin, whom wasn't expected to be a serious contender for the Steelers job years ago. So you take the chances you are given.

In the NFL case, besides the experience interviewing, it also gets your name out there, which is probably a good thing to get future, more serious interview attempts. There are clearly times where the whole thing is a sham, but even in those times, I think you can gain something out of the process as long as the team gives you a legit interview (even if they know they aren't going to hire you).

[fleet]

Read on Twitter

[sco]

Read on Twitter

Good for him. He deserves to land somewhere.

[panthermark]

Shaw could have been a Rooney rule guy. Honestly I do not understand why some of these guys don’t be like Aaron Glenn and tell teams they aren’t interested in being used like that. But there must be some practical angle to come on in

I think there is a huge practical angle.

For context, in my own career, I've managed groups of teams for the past 15 years or so, and I was trying to break into the C-Suite as a CIO. It's just really hard to do that. Your most likely path is to be promoted at the company you are at (which actually did happen to me this year, hooray!), but I would take every interview I got for executive level jobs whether I was interested or not.

There weren't a whole bunch of them, but I just wanted the practice. I wanted to see what people would ask, what types of things I would need to be able to answer. I feel you have very little hope of nailing that type of interview your first time around, but you sure do get better at it by getting more reps.

Also, you always have the chance that you just blow someone away even if you are a serious underdog candidate. This was the case for Mike Tomlin, whom wasn't expected to be a serious contender for the Steelers job years ago. So you take the chances you are given.

In the NFL case, besides the experience interviewing, it also gets your name out there, which is probably a good thing to get future, more serious interview attempts. There are clearly times where the whole thing is a sham, but even in those times, I think you can gain something out of the process as long as the team gives you a legit interview (even if they know they aren't going to hire you).

Congrats on the promotion.

And agreed, one of the best things I ever did in my career was going through the interview process for a director level position where I work. I actually didn't want that promotion, but the person the brought me in was promoted to AVP about a month after I internally transferred under them...and it was one of those "I have nothing to lose" ordeals.

Something similar had happened to me with a manager position many years ago, and I was to scared to even throw my name into the ring at the time. I wasn't going to make that mistake again.

Going through the ringer of AVP, VP and SVP interviews turned out to be a fantastic learning experience that really got my name out there. I ended up being a finalist, and it took about 4 months for leadership to make a final decision, which was really good for even though I didn't get it, considering that I had ZERO management experience going in.

(That was really why I wasn't interested, I like being an individual contributor. My wife is in people management, and man....the stories she tells me is nuts....F that. But maybe managing other managers and IC's would be less drama.)

Because of that process and the connections made, I know get to tag in on calls and strategy sessions that I probably would not have been in before if I would have not interviewed and was able to showcase myself.

Before I had interviewed (and before the person had brought me in was promoted), I actually got kicked off a call by a VP. It was basically..."Who is this guy and why is he here?" After about 5 minutes, the VP was like "Well, OK...all non-essential parties can now drop from this call". That was basically me.....oooffff... I ended up interviewing with that person about 2 months later.