NBA Trade Thread

[RastaBull]

It's not a trade, but just saw that DeRozan is gonna opt out.

Obviously we don't have the cap with Porter likely to opt-in. But curious, if you could would you dish out Porter and use cap to sign DeRozan?

DeRozan concerns: Age 30, going into a likely 4-year max contract. CANNOT/WILL NOT shoot 3s. Pretty much proved can't be #1 guy against championship level opponents (while in Tor).

HOWEVER, I've always really loved DeRozan. his approach to the game is very much put his head down and play his heart out. He's strong and I think a pretty smart player. Every time we've played him his 2P jumper is just MONEY! He puts effort in on defense, and he has athletic ability to be solid (but he doesn't have you elite bball defensive IQ to be a stopper in crunch time).

Especially in S.A., he's become a really legit distributor and floor general. But I will give credit to all that point out that as the leader of that Spurs team they've been at edge of playoffs or out last two years.

Although he is 30, his strength isn't going anywhere. I think his style of game is one that will stay consistent into his mid-30s, so I don't see much risk. It's more a matter of you will continue to get what you've seen, and is that enough? Personally, DeRozan has always reminded me of the most Jordan-esque style of basketball from a shooting guard (obviously several levels below), which is why I'm of the opinion he'll play at same level for several years. (he's now cemented as a SF in this league, largely because he lacks much perimeter threat).

Question I'd be interested in hearing others engaged with: Is he a really good fit on floor with Zach and Coby starting?

I've been really trying to key in on capable floor general SF with strong enough bodies to be solid on defense. I think he fits this really well. With Lauri/Zach/Coby, there's not as much a concern of his inability to take 3s. The middle of the floor will be very open for him with those guys positioned around him. And if Zach or Coby has the ball and attempt to drive or break down defense, DeRozan can create movements/slashing for solid outlet, or be picked out for some midrange 2s (hitting 45% from 10-16ft this year).

Does he run the pick and roll down in S.A.? Would he be good pick and roll/pop with Lauri?

I'd be interested in some how offloading Porter and coming out of the offseason adding DeRozan and Becky Hammon!

[jump]

DeRozan wants to go to a top level team. I could see him going to the Warriors. With Steph back and
Klay back by the start of the season, he would broaden their attack.

[StunnerKO]

DeRozan wants to go to a top level team. I could see him going to the Warriors. With Steph back and
Klay back by the start of the season, he would broaden their attack.

No way he’s going to the Warriors unless they trading away Wiggins to the Spurs


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[WindyCityBorn]

It's not a trade, but just saw that DeRozan is gonna opt out.

Obviously we don't have the cap with Porter likely to opt-in. But curious, if you could would you dish out Porter and use cap to sign DeRozan?

DeRozan concerns: Age 30, going into a likely 4-year max contract. CANNOT/WILL NOT shoot 3s. Pretty much proved can't be #1 guy against championship level opponents (while in Tor).

HOWEVER, I've always really loved DeRozan. his approach to the game is very much put his head down and play his heart out. He's strong and I think a pretty smart player. Every time we've played him his 2P jumper is just MONEY! He puts effort in on defense, and he has athletic ability to be solid (but he doesn't have you elite bball defensive IQ to be a stopper in crunch time).

Especially in S.A., he's become a really legit distributor and floor general. But I will give credit to all that point out that as the leader of that Spurs team they've been at edge of playoffs or out last two years.

Although he is 30, his strength isn't going anywhere. I think his style of game is one that will stay consistent into his mid-30s, so I don't see much risk. It's more a matter of you will continue to get what you've seen, and is that enough? Personally, DeRozan has always reminded me of the most Jordan-esque style of basketball from a shooting guard (obviously several levels below), which is why I'm of the opinion he'll play at same level for several years. (he's now cemented as a SF in this league, largely because he lacks much perimeter threat).

Question I'd be interested in hearing others engaged with: Is he a really good fit on floor with Zach and Coby starting?

I've been really trying to key in on capable floor general SF with strong enough bodies to be solid on defense. I think he fits this really well. With Lauri/Zach/Coby, there's not as much a concern of his inability to take 3s. The middle of the floor will be very open for him with those guys positioned around him. And if Zach or Coby has the ball and attempt to drive or break down defense, DeRozan can create movements/slashing for solid outlet, or be picked out for some midrange 2s (hitting 45% from 10-16ft this year).

Does he run the pick and roll down in S.A.? Would he be good pick and roll/pop with Lauri?

I'd be interested in some how offloading Porter and coming out of the offseason adding DeRozan and Becky Hammon!

Why exactly would we want Derozan? Passing his prime, not a SF, not elite, can't shoot 3s.

[schmaeitz]

My Trade would be Zach Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.
So we can play with a Lineup:

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Young
WCJ

Not a Contender but I would like it.

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[sco]

My Trade would be Zach Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.
So we can play with a Lineup:

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Young
WCJ

Not a Contender but I would like it.

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On paper - ok, while I love Levert...he makes OPJ look like an iron man. Also, what happened to Lauri in your lineup? If you're not gonna play him - get something for him too

[R3AL1TY]

My Trade would be Zach Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.
So we can play with a Lineup:

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Young
WCJ

Not a Contender but I would like it.

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I thought about this too, but the Bulls may have to give up more than Lavine. The team will still lack a superstar and Levert has some injury proneness, but I think the Bulls will be better if everyone stays healthy.

[StunnerKO]

Nets with Kyrie , KD and Lavine would be sick smh who would you guard . Trade benefits Bk more than us Cuz I know a nets fan would do that in a heartbeat


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[scottyg]

I’m gonna manifest Aaron Gordon to the bulls,

Bulls get

-Nikola Vucevic
- Aaron Gordon

Magic get -
- Otto Porter
- Daniel Gafford
- Tomas Satoransky
- Chandler Hutchison
- Trade exception or extra cap room

Or magic get
- Thad Young
- Tomas Satoransky
- Wendall Carter
- Christiano Felicio
- Chandler Hutchison
- 2019 bulls draft pick


Why? Cuz I really like the idea of Gordon with Lavine and growing together, and the bulls can move White into the starting lineup and move Wendall Carter to the 6th man or let Markannen be the new 6th man and torch the 2 stringers or wirh the 2nd Trade we give up Carter and are draft pick but I think it’s worth it

[MrSparkle]

DeRozan would be a very bad fit for the Bulls.

They need about 3 starter caliber all-around athletic wings to add to the rotation; defenders, ball-handlers, spot-up shooters.

DeRozan is a wing who doesn’t really address any of that. He’s a mid-range iso scorer type at the end of his prime.

[sco]

I’m gonna manifest Aaron Gordon to the bulls,

Bulls get

-Nikola Vucevic
- Aaron Gordon

Magic get -
- Otto Porter
- Daniel Gafford
- Tomas Satoransky
- Chandler Hutchison
- Trade exception or extra cap room

Or magic get
- Thad Young
- Tomas Satoransky
- Wendall Carter
- Christiano Felicio
- Chandler Hutchison
- 2019 bulls draft pick


Why? Cuz I really like the idea of Gordon with Lavine and growing together, and the bulls can move White into the starting lineup and move Wendall Carter to the 6th man or let Markannen be the new 6th man and torch the 2 stringers or wirh the 2nd Trade we give up Carter and are draft pick but I think it’s worth it

I don't get the fascination with Aaron Gordon. IMO he isn't a meaningful upgrade over Markkanen. He isn't a great defender, ball handler, passer or 3pt shooter.

[R3AL1TY]

Might as well draft Obi rather than trading for Gordon.

[Ayman78]

The best situation for the Bulls future would be to figure out a way to get Ben Simmons and pair him with Lavine. That is the only star level player that maybe in the realm of possibility it will cost a lot in assets.

[drosereturn]

My Trade would be Zach Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.
So we can play with a Lineup:

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Young
WCJ

Not a Contender but I would like it.

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Leverts value is all time high I dont think him alone couldd net those players.
If the Nets view Carter highly, I would prefer Lavine+ Carter for Din, Levert, Allen.

Din/Levert/??/Lauri/Allen. This squad is a star sf away from contenders. Maybe extend OPJ for time being and trade him later for a s&t. Ingram/Derozan calibers are who I want to go for. Not washed up, injury prone are priorities.

[R3AL1TY]

The best situation for the Bulls future would be to figure out a way to get Ben Simmons and pair him with Lavine. That is the only star level player that maybe in the realm of possibility it will cost a lot in assets.

To keep Lavine, White + 2020 draft pick + filler is likely the package. But Ben's style of play will require the team to add more shooters.

[Onibuh]

I’m gonna manifest Aaron Gordon to the bulls,

Bulls get

-Nikola Vucevic
- Aaron Gordon

Magic get -
- Otto Porter
- Daniel Gafford
- Tomas Satoransky
- Chandler Hutchison
- Trade exception or extra cap room

Or magic get
- Thad Young
- Tomas Satoransky
- Wendall Carter
- Christiano Felicio
- Chandler Hutchison
- 2019 bulls draft pick


Why? Cuz I really like the idea of Gordon with Lavine and growing together, and the bulls can move White into the starting lineup and move Wendall Carter to the 6th man or let Markannen be the new 6th man and torch the 2 stringers or wirh the 2nd Trade we give up Carter and are draft pick but I think it’s worth it

I don't get the fascination with Aaron Gordon. IMO he isn't a meaningful upgrade over Markkanen. He isn't a great defender, ball handler, passer or 3pt shooter.

We could ask the Magic if they would swap Gordon with Lauri. Pretty sure they'd prefer Gordon as would I.

[sco]

I’m gonna manifest Aaron Gordon to the bulls,

Bulls get

-Nikola Vucevic
- Aaron Gordon

Magic get -
- Otto Porter
- Daniel Gafford
- Tomas Satoransky
- Chandler Hutchison
- Trade exception or extra cap room

Or magic get
- Thad Young
- Tomas Satoransky
- Wendall Carter
- Christiano Felicio
- Chandler Hutchison
- 2019 bulls draft pick


Why? Cuz I really like the idea of Gordon with Lavine and growing together, and the bulls can move White into the starting lineup and move Wendall Carter to the 6th man or let Markannen be the new 6th man and torch the 2 stringers or wirh the 2nd Trade we give up Carter and are draft pick but I think it’s worth it

I don't get the fascination with Aaron Gordon. IMO he isn't a meaningful upgrade over Markkanen. He isn't a great defender, ball handler, passer or 3pt shooter.

We could ask the Magic if they would swap Gordon with Lauri. Pretty sure they'd prefer Gordon as would I.

Maybe, but Gordon will be going into the final year on his deal, as will Lauri. I'd rather have Lauri on a rookie deal than Gordon at $16M. I'd also wouldn't give up longer term assets to get a mid-tier starter, who could bolt in a year.

While there are deals that I'd dump Lauri for, this isn't one. I think we'd be selling low, and can do better next deadline.

[Magic beans]

I think it would be best as is the current state of the roster to target under the radar high potential low risk two way players and acquisition future picks. Always liked Okogie and Layman from MINN?

[sco]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

[Magic beans]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

I have zero complaints with this scenario. Getting rid of Lauri and Felicio looks like Christmas time.
NYK soured on Barrett already?