Official: Jimmy Butler, #16 to Minnesota for Lavine, Dunn, #7 - merged/Justin Patton injured

[Ralphb07]

That needs to be the strategy now. Pile on future picks. Help Ainge free up salaries to sign Hayward.

Yeah if Ainge needs to unload a player like Jae or Bradley the Bulls should definitely look there but knowing Ainge he'd be the one asking for the pick.

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

[TheSuzerain]

Yeah if Ainge needs to unload a player like Jae or Bradley the Bulls should definitely look there but knowing Ainge he'd be the one asking for the pick.

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

lmao at "the three they just got".

No. Just no. Stop twisting the truth.

[Ralphb07]

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

lmao at "the three they just got".

No. Just no. Stop twisting the truth.

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Not the case

[DarthDiggler69]

I was super high on Lavine prior to his ACL tear. The guy was on that track to greatness. I hope this isn't deja vu.

agree but look at Dennis Smith Jr, cannot tell that guy had an ACL before. If it all goes well Lavine can go back to his game, he is still young. But regardless hes a good shooter and that he can fall back on if he cant fly anymore

[MC3]

Is there any glimmer of hope that LaVine doesn't pass his physical and this trade gets nixed?

Bulls will decline medical for Lavine to complete a trade. Given he is not healthy and he is rehabbing.

[D_GoLow]

I really hope Wade stays. Two reasons. We need to be above salary limit, and second him mentoring Lavine and Dunn will be crucial for their development. And in case of Lavine, rehab and mental approach after injury. Wade knows how to handle the body. Let's not forget we dont have Lavine for till January atleast. Who is going to score basketball? Wade seems to be good fit. I dont expect Markkanen till All-Star break to contribute or break out. Dunn alone can't do it.

Really hope Wade invests his time in Dunn, they're similar players.

Rookies never do much with Thibs at the helm, not even JIMMY

pfffft no they aren't. That's an absurd comparison.

When he was the 5th pick last year that was Jalens comparison....similiar build, game, streaky shooters...i saw it then, I see it now

[Chi town]

Yeah if Ainge needs to unload a player like Jae or Bradley the Bulls should definitely look there but knowing Ainge he'd be the one asking for the pick.

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

Porter???

[AirP.]

I don't know what your definition of tanking is. Mine is when an ENTIRE organisation writes off a season and tries their best to do badly in Win-Loss.

Do you honestly see the Bulls doing that?

This is why I was pointing out that the Bulls social media had made a point of pushing the young guys working out this summer unlike any other summer before. Basically pushing that this team is more then Jimmy Butler, these guys are working hard to get better(like most young players do).

Chicago has to write off next season simply because LaVine won't be back till at least midseason or later.

There was a good portion of Minn fans that thought LaVine had more potential then Wiggins and for the system that Fred wants to run LaVine should be a damn good fit. Even if it takes a while for his explosiveness to come back, the guy has a great outside shot and who knows, may let Chicago get a Steph Curry glass ankles contract with him instead of a max contract. He's only under his rookie contract for 1 more year(next year) so he'll be going into restricted free agency fresh back from an ACL injury.

[TheStig]

Yeah if Ainge needs to unload a player like Jae or Bradley the Bulls should definitely look there but knowing Ainge he'd be the one asking for the pick.

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

I can see a Deng and protected first for Wade or Rondo trade coming.

[Ice Man]

When he was the 5th pick last year that was Jalens comparison

And Jalen was wrong.

[D_GoLow]

When he was the 5th pick last year that was Jalens comparison

And Jalen was wrong.

We better hope it's too soon

[musiqsoulchild]

I don't know what your definition of tanking is. Mine is when an ENTIRE organisation writes off a season and tries their best to do badly in Win-Loss.

Do you honestly see the Bulls doing that?

This is why I was pointing out that the Bulls social media had made a point of pushing the young guys working out this summer unlike any other summer before. Basically pushing that this team is more then Jimmy Butler, these guys are working hard to get better(like most young players do).

Chicago has to write off next season simply because LaVine won't be back till at least midseason or later.

There was a good portion of Minn fans that thought LaVine had more potential then Wiggins and for the system that Fred wants to run LaVine should be a damn good fit. Even if it takes a while for his explosiveness to come back, the guy has a great outside shot and who knows, may let Chicago get a Steph Curry glass ankles contract with him instead of a max contract. He's only under his rookie contract for 1 more year(next year) so he'll be going into restricted free agency fresh back from an ACL injury.

Let's put it this way. We will tank our way to the 13th pick in the draft next year.

I don't call that tanking. Not by a country mile.

[Cager]

Bottom line is that the ACL year alone is a huge concern. Who goes on to become a superstar after tearing an ACL?

http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_bio.html

[D_GoLow]

Listening to Kap & Comp, big reason why Bulls included the 16th pick was because they had to have Lavine so when you break it down:

Dunn & #7 for Jimmy (2 1st rd picks)
Lavine for #16

THAT'S kind of even

[D_GoLow]

Bottom line is that the ACL year alone is a huge concern. Who goes on to become a superstar after tearing an ACL?

http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_bio.html

Do we red shirt Zach this season? I would

[AirP.]

Hmmm Wade, watcha gonna do? Didn't realize you were getting paid $24m to babysit did'ya? Have fun on those team flights changing diapers. For his sake, I hope they can agree on a reasonable buy out and he gets to go play with the Cavs or somewhere he deserves. Bulls front office is a Snake Pit, complete trash! Got rid of a talented head coach in Thibs to bring in a more agreable college coach, then that coach pushes out all the teams talent for more agreable college kids...Why are we trying so hard to be the best NCAA team?

I really hope Wade stays. Two reasons. We need to be above salary limit, and second him mentoring Lavine and Dunn will be crucial for their development. And in case of Lavine, rehab and mental approach after injury. Wade knows how to handle the body. Let's not forget we dont have Lavine for till January atleast. Who is going to score basketball? Wade seems to be good fit. I dont expect Markkanen till All-Star break to contribute or break out. Dunn alone can't do it.

Really hope Wade invests his time in Dunn, they're similar players.

Rookies never do much with Thibs at the helm, not even JIMMY

There was that one rookie named Mirotic who came close to winning Rookie of the Year. In fact Thibs moved him out of position to find time on the court for him.

The problem with rookies and Thibs is that he doesn't hand out free minutes, he puts the best players on the court. Ricky Rubio other then his outside shot(a big problem) is a great point guard and Tyus Jones is a very good young PG who had been in the NBA for a year and is a solid outside shooter.

[AirP.]

Listening to Kap & Comp, big reason why Bulls included the 16th pick was because they had to have Lavine so when you break it down:

Dunn & #7 for Jimmy (2 1st rd picks)
Lavine for #16

THAT'S kind of even

I thought it may have been more of if they don't include the #16 they get Rubio instead of LaVine. LaVine is worth way more then just the #16 pick, even coming off of ACL surgery.

[AirP.]

Bottom line is that the ACL year alone is a huge concern. Who goes on to become a superstar after tearing an ACL?

http://www.nba.com/history/players/kingb_bio.html

Do we red shirt Zach this season? I would

Really? You wouldn't play him before restricted free agency? You have to have some idea of what he can do in games before giving him his next contract. Plus he needs to see where exactly he is at in a game situation to know what to really work on to be ready for the next season.

[AirP.]

lol, that's true. Still, let's hope there are teams desperate to free up space. Maybe Cleveland? We should ask for a 2020/21 pick if we take some of their bad deals. Too bad we didn't jump on the Lakers / Russell deal, I would have been down for that.

I do think they may look into a RFA that fits and take a shot and if that doesn't happen they look for picks taking back bad deals. This was the first step and now the next is to land another top 5 pick next season to go with the three they just got.

I can see a Deng and protected first for Wade or Rondo trade coming.

He's got 3 years left at around 18 mil a year, if you consider the next 2 years as development years(I would) then it doesn't matter what you're paying him then use his 3rd year as an expiring contract to start adding to your new core. Take in whatever contracts you have to, to add more assets for the next 2 years.

[Axxo]

I don't see MCW being back. Canaan could go in some type of move for a big. In a small ball approach Portis, and it would seem Markkanen, could play some Center (I am not sure about Markkanen...I just know he is a 7 footer). Grant and Canaan can play off-ball at the 2 (and possibly even Payne). But yes, there should be more to come!

The question is who has a bunch of cap space they want to save for 2018 off-season who might be willing to take wade off our hands. Hey, the Bulls might want him.

Lavine is a 2. He is only 6'5. Cant see him playing at the 3.

Agree. If the Bulls are serious about their direction the starting lineup without any more moves (and I expect there will be more moves to shore up the 3) looks like Dunn, Lavine, Zip (or acquisition), Niko and Lopez. Portis and Lauri get minutes at the 4 and 5.

What we will likely see instead is Rondo, Wade, Zip, Niko and Lopez lol Although seriously I don't see Rondo and Wade on the court together much, especially after Butler/Wade tried to pressure the FO into getting rid of Rondo.

All that to say...there has got to be a move to pick up a SF.

10-4, agree 100%