NBA Trade Thread

[sco]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

I have zero complaints with this scenario. Getting rid of Lauri and Felicio looks like Christmas time.
NYK soured on Barrett already?

Randle has been so bad for them and his contract is not tiny, they have a new GM who needs to show action. Lauri has at least shown something and would be a good pairing with Robinson. They also have no good PG's.

[qianlong]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

I have zero complaints with this scenario. Getting rid of Lauri and Felicio looks like Christmas time.
NYK soured on Barrett already?

Good luck getting Barrett for that package.

On the other hand I think the idea of getting Simmons has some value. Honestly I'm not in love with Simmons, but at least he would provide some upside .

I don't know how to make it work, but I suppose something centered around Simmons for Mauro, this year pick, either protected or after the lottery if we remain outside top 5 plus salary filler.

White/Lavine/Porter/Simmons/wcj
The team has quite some flexibility.

[sco]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

I have zero complaints with this scenario. Getting rid of Lauri and Felicio looks like Christmas time.
NYK soured on Barrett already?

Good luck getting Barrett for that package.

On the other hand I think the idea of getting Simmons has some value. Honestly I'm not in love with Simmons, but at least he would provide some upside .

I don't know how to make it work, but I suppose something centered around Simmons for Mauro, this year pick, either protected or after the lottery if we remain outside top 5 plus salary filler.

White/Lavine/Porter/Simmons/wcj
The team has quite some flexibility.

There's a lot of bust talk in NY around Barrett and a new GM...it's possible.

That said, I would love Simmons. The trade wouldn't likely happen until after the lottery, but I'd trade anything other than top 3 pick plus Lauri for him.

[pipfan]

Would Lauri/#2-4 pick (or #7 and future pick)/Felicio and Sato have any legs for Simmons?

[sco]

Would Lauri/#2-4 pick (or #7 and future pick)/Felicio and Sato have any legs for Simmons?

I think it would depend on how PHI does if there are playoffs.

[Dez]

Would Lauri/#2-4 pick (or #7 and future pick)/Felicio and Sato have any legs for Simmons?

No, going to need far more than that.

Lauri/White/'20 1st is that starting point.

[GimmeDat]

If people want to criticize Lauri as a young player, having a bad season after 2 very good ones, then it's probably worth noting that RJ has not had a good rookie season either.

40% FG, 32% 3PT. This is for a guy whose value derives from being a scorer.

Rookie season, 19, yes, but I think he was overvalued as a prospect.

That said, I'd probably do the above deal. RJ still has potential, couple of extra rookie contract years relative to Lauri, Lauri has his own question marks.

The other parts are pretty interchangeable. Won't lose sleep losing Sato, or Kris, of course. Randle puts up stats but has been very much an empty stats guy so far in his career, doesn't seem to be a positive team contributor in any substantial role.

[sco]

If people want to criticize Lauri as a young player, having a bad season after 2 very good ones, then it's probably worth noting that RJ has not had a good rookie season either.

40% FG, 32% 3PT. This is for a guy whose value derives from being a scorer.

Rookie season, 19, yes, but I think he was overvalued as a prospect.

That said, I'd probably do the above deal. RJ still has potential, couple of extra rookie contract years relative to Lauri, Lauri has his own question marks.

The other parts are pretty interchangeable. Won't lose sleep losing Sato, or Kris, of course. Randle puts up stats but has been very much an empty stats guy so far in his career, doesn't seem to be a positive team contributor in any substantial role.

Randle has been terrible, to be sure, but I think part of it is that he was asked to be the #1 option and playmaker.

[GimmeDat]

If people want to criticize Lauri as a young player, having a bad season after 2 very good ones, then it's probably worth noting that RJ has not had a good rookie season either.

40% FG, 32% 3PT. This is for a guy whose value derives from being a scorer.

Rookie season, 19, yes, but I think he was overvalued as a prospect.

That said, I'd probably do the above deal. RJ still has potential, couple of extra rookie contract years relative to Lauri, Lauri has his own question marks.

The other parts are pretty interchangeable. Won't lose sleep losing Sato, or Kris, of course. Randle puts up stats but has been very much an empty stats guy so far in his career, doesn't seem to be a positive team contributor in any substantial role.

Randle has been terrible, to be sure, but I think part of it is that he was asked to be the #1 option and playmaker.

I can agree with that. I liked him in New Orleans. Think he has value as a 3rd big. Just an overpaid one. Lucky it's not a long term contract.

[drosereturn]

If we are set on getting rid of Lauri, I wonder if NY has soured enough on Barrett to do:



Randle isn't too good, and his contract is bad (which is why NY does this), but we could just start Thad and bring Randle off the bench.

I have zero complaints with this scenario. Getting rid of Lauri and Felicio looks like Christmas time.
NYK soured on Barrett already?

Good luck getting Barrett for that package.

On the other hand I think the idea of getting Simmons has some value. Honestly I'm not in love with Simmons, but at least he would provide some upside .

I don't know how to make it work, but I suppose something centered around Simmons for Mauro, this year pick, either protected or after the lottery if we remain outside top 5 plus salary filler.

White/Lavine/Porter/Simmons/wcj
The team has quite some flexibility.

Personally getting RJ sounds like a pipedream but from a value point, its not too far off why your ruling it out.
In an ideal scenario, Lauri should fetch something like a high lottery pick plus a decent prospect like the Minn pick and Culver.
Simmons would require the entire farm and I am still not sure if they take the deal.

[scottyg]

How bout we trade for Chris Paul and then sign Mirotic back and then suddenly we become a deep team with proven veterans and I think we let Chris Paul and Mirotic start for a year and let Coby white and Markannen come off the bench together and torch all the bench players and build chemistry together! And then we have our draft pick too!

[Bulldog23]

I would like too see the Bulls trade Sato for another pick between 12 to 20.

[sco]

I would like too see the Bulls trade Sato for another pick between 12 to 20.

I'd like to see them trade Felicio for a top 5 pick, but that ain't happening either...Seriously though, Sato is a viewed around the league as a 4th quartile starting PG or 1st quartile back-up - that doesn't get you a mid-1st. I agree that trading Sato makes sense, but it is hard to find a good trade partner who both needs him and has something we'd want. I thought about including him as part of a package with Lauri and Otto for Ben Simmons.

[Dez]

I would like too see the Bulls trade Sato for another pick between 12 to 20.

Everyone would love that but no team is going to give us that.

[GimmeDat]

Be lucky to get positive value for Sato in a deal. He's contract makes him a neutral asset, at best.

[schmaeitz]

How about Lauri and the 1st round Pick 2020 for John Collins?
Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Collins
WCJ



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[Nikola]

Wonder if Phoenix would like the idea of bringing in another wildcat?
Markkanen, 2rdp for Bridges or Johnson and the 11-12th pick

I like Porter Jr and Markkanen but the Bulls have got to lower their injury risks.

[Dan Z]

How about Lauri and the 1st round Pick 2020 for John Collins?
Lavine for Dinwiddie and Levert.

Dinwiddie
Levert
OPJ
Collins
WCJ



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The funny thing is (or sad depending on how you look at it) is that in 2017 the Bulls could've drafted John Collins without trading Butler.

[scottyg]

My two trade targets are Chris Paul and Aaron Gordon, I want to bring defense and playmaking to this team and I would like to start Aaron Gordon and Chris Paul and move Markannen to the 6th man if possible and be the first big off the bench so his defense can be masked and then he can be the Go too man when he is playing, but that will only work if we can some how trade Young, satoransky, and felicio for Paul then somehow do a Sign and trade of Kri Dunn and draft pick for Gordon but I don’t see that happening ! So here’s my offer and I don’t care how we get this roster

3 way trade - # 1

Bulls get - Chris Paul + Aaron Gordon + Aminu

Thunder get- Otto Porter + Felicio + 2nd rd

Magic get - Satoransky + Thad Young + Hutchison + rights to swap picks this year (top 8 protected ) and top 7 protected next year if not turns into 2 2nd rd picks



* also Kris Dunn and Valentine can be used in a Sign and trade

Roster
- Paul / White/ Arch
- Lavine / White/ ( Dunn or Valentine )
- Gordon / Aminu ( draft pick Toppin?)
- Markannen/ Gordon ( Toppin )
- Carter / Gafford


Good mix of scoring and defense and now this team is built around each other and I would like to stagger Aaron Gordon minutes with the opposite of Chris Paul and let him take over some playmaking duties, I like what I saw the last 10 games in that role !

[sco]

My two trade targets are Chris Paul and Aaron Gordon, I want to bring defense and playmaking to this team and I would like to start Aaron Gordon and Chris Paul and move Markannen to the 6th man if possible and be the first big off the bench so his defense can be masked and then he can be the Go too man when he is playing, but that will only work if we can some how trade Young, satoransky, and felicio for Paul then somehow do a Sign and trade of Kri Dunn and draft pick for Gordon but I don’t see that happening ! So here’s my offer and I don’t care how we get this roster

3 way trade - # 1

Bulls get - Chris Paul + Aaron Gordon + Aminu

Thunder get- Otto Porter + Felicio + 2nd rd

Magic get - Satoransky + Thad Young + Hutchison + rights to swap picks this year (top 8 protected ) and top 7 protected next year if not turns into 2 2nd rd picks



* also Kris Dunn and Valentine can be used in a Sign and trade

Roster
- Paul / White/ Arch
- Lavine / White/ ( Dunn or Valentine )
- Gordon / Aminu ( draft pick Toppin?)
- Markannen/ Gordon ( Toppin )
- Carter / Gafford


Good mix of scoring and defense and now this team is built around each other and I would like to stagger Aaron Gordon minutes with the opposite of Chris Paul and let him take over some playmaking duties, I like what I saw the last 10 games in that role !

IMO, Paul and Gordon aren't worth the headache to do those trades - especially if you think Gordon is a SF. He is too limited in his perimeter skills and defense. Gordon/Markkanen/Lavine would be a bad combo on defense - like real bad.