2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

[TheSuzerain]

Next year's draft class is frankly looking pretty tank-worthy with Kuminga reclassifying.

Cade Cunningham
Jonathan Kuminga
Jalen Johnson
Jalen Green
Evan Mobley

I think a good number of these guys probably go #1 in this draft class.

[leo921]

If the Bulls stay at 7 or worse what do you think of trading the pick

Bulls trade - 7th pick/Hutchinson
for
Suns trade - Mikal Bridges

Suns end up getting picks 7 and 10 to either get 2 rookies or use in trade.

Next year we have White/Lavine/Otto/Lauri/Carter with a bench of Sato/Mokota (young 3nD)/Bridges/Young/Gafford. Bulls get Bridges who is a great 3 and D player who can play the 2/3 and some small ball 4. Bridges can take over for Porter when he leaves next year and can start when Otto is injured.

If you ran this by Suns fans I think you'd get rejected pretty quickly. They value him more than this...

The Suns starting wings are Booker/Oubre with Bridges (25mins) and Cam Johnson off the bench. The Suns also have a number of holes to fill such as PG (Rubio starts but they need someone who can shoot and they can develop) starting PF, front court depth.
With picks 7 and 10 they can get some combo of Hayes/Anthony/Haliburton and Patrick Williams /Achiuwa/Pokusevski to draft and build out there bench or they can use picks 7 and 10 for a trade to further strengthen the team.

You can also change the trade to 7th pick and Thad Young for Bridges so the Suns get deeper.

[_txchilibowl_]

If the Bulls stay at 7 or worse what do you think of trading the pick

Bulls trade - 7th pick/Hutchinson
for
Suns trade - Mikal Bridges

Suns end up getting picks 7 and 10 to either get 2 rookies or use in trade.

Next year we have White/Lavine/Otto/Lauri/Carter with a bench of Sato/Mokota (young 3nD)/Bridges/Young/Gafford. Bulls get Bridges who is a great 3 and D player who can play the 2/3 and some small ball 4. Bridges can take over for Porter when he leaves next year and can start when Otto is injured.

If you ran this by Suns fans I think you'd get rejected pretty quickly. They value him more than this...

The Suns starting wings are Booker/Oubre with Bridges (25mins) and Cam Johnson off the bench. The Suns also have a number of holes to fill such as PG (Rubio starts but they need someone who can shoot and they can develop) starting PF, front court depth.
With picks 7 and 10 they can get some combo of Hayes/Anthony/Haliburton and Patrick Williams /Achiuwa/Pokusevski to draft and build out there bench or they can use picks 7 and 10 for a trade to further strengthen the team.

You can also change the trade to 7th pick and Thad Young for Bridges so the Suns get deeper.

I would LOVE to acquire Bridges. I just don't think your offer is feasible. They view him as a cornerstone piece. If you don't believe me go post it on the Trades and Transactions board....don't say I didn't warn you.

Good target though. I like the idea.

[MGB8]

Had a chance to start watching YouTubes on prospects. Really impressed with Vassell. Not super explosive, but very smooth. High basketball IQ seems to jump off the court. Despite low FTA/G, does attack the basket. Reminds me a bit of Tatum, without the rebounding. Numbers aren’t huge, but the talent is clearly there, IMO.

[No-Man]

Next year's draft class is frankly looking pretty tank-worthy with Kuminga reclassifying.

Cade Cunningham
Jonathan Kuminga
Jalen Johnson
Jalen Green
Evan Mobley

I think a good number of these guys probably go #1 in this draft class.

Green and Kuminga are really overrated to me, Kuminga is very much Rudy Gay-ish, Green is a better prospect but still don't see him as a n1 type

Cade is the real deal, Johnson is good just some doubts scoring (kinda like Deni) I think Suggs is up there too

BJ Boston is good good, just a weird ass body

[MGB8]

Devin Vassell highlights - look at the smoothness, more bounce than generally reported on scouting reports, and what seems to be a very high basketball IQ (at least from this reel) - but why was his production, even if super efficient, so middling (though on a very good NCCAM team, against good competition)?:

Watch on YouTube

[MGB8]

Aaron Nesmith highlights - more than a shooter, but, yeah, one heck of a shooter - but also not super athletic (lacks high end speed and bounce, mostly an under the rim guy), not that big or long (though fairly thick/strong), not an exceptional ball handler (also against weaker competition on a bad team)...

Watch on YouTube

[MGB8]

Isaac Okoro highlights - somewhere between Marion and Oladipo? Super-bouncy, strong, aggressive attacker - despite highlights shot is a work in progress (not NBA ready), solid bball IQ, can handle some... potentially very high upside if the shot develops...

Watch on YouTube

[TheSuzerain]

Next year's draft class is frankly looking pretty tank-worthy with Kuminga reclassifying.

Cade Cunningham
Jonathan Kuminga
Jalen Johnson
Jalen Green
Evan Mobley

I think a good number of these guys probably go #1 in this draft class.

Green and Kuminga are really overrated to me, Kuminga is very much Rudy Gay-ish, Green is a better prospect but still don't see him as a n1 type

Cade is the real deal, Johnson is good just some doubts scoring (kinda like Deni) I think Suggs is up there too

BJ Boston is good good, just a weird ass body

Kuminga, like Rudy Gay, is an elite NBA wing athlete which basically makes you a top pick by default.

Won't pretend to have walked the guy extensively, but he doesn't seem entirely unskilled either.

Is he a zero from an awareness or basketball IQ perspective or something?

[PrimzyBulls81]

Okoro has written Bulls all over him!
I would love that guy to be drafted by Chicago.

[leo921]

Isaac Okoro highlights - somewhere between Marion and Oladipo? Super-bouncy, strong, aggressive attacker - despite highlights shot is a work in progress (not NBA ready), solid bball IQ, can handle some... potentially very high upside if the shot develops...

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for the highlights and quick scouting reports.

I really really hope we dont get Okoro. Guys like him are a dime a dozen in the NBA and end up as busts and end of bench guys. At best a Justine Winslow and at worst a Micheal Kidd - Gilchrist. MKG shot 25% from 3 in college, Okoro shot 28% from 3 in college. Most guys in the NBA are long strong bouncy and athletic, but it takes real skill shooting and passing to stay in the league and make a impact.

[No-Man]

Next year's draft class is frankly looking pretty tank-worthy with Kuminga reclassifying.

Cade Cunningham
Jonathan Kuminga
Jalen Johnson
Jalen Green
Evan Mobley

I think a good number of these guys probably go #1 in this draft class.

Green and Kuminga are really overrated to me, Kuminga is very much Rudy Gay-ish, Green is a better prospect but still don't see him as a n1 type

Cade is the real deal, Johnson is good just some doubts scoring (kinda like Deni) I think Suggs is up there too

BJ Boston is good good, just a weird ass body

Kuminga, like Rudy Gay, is an elite NBA wing athlete which basically makes you a top pick by default.

Won't pretend to have walked the guy extensively, but he doesn't seem entirely unskilled either.

Is he a zero from an awareness or basketball IQ perspective or something?

not a zero pero def below average

Kuminga has more wiggle than Gay, but has a similar hot/cold motor, I think he is in that Wiggins/Gay mold for the most part

He will go high, just saying that I am not sure if that's ideal

Green lack of physicality troubles me a bit, Boston is slim but plays hard as **** for example

I think I'd have Cade 1 by a mile, then Suggs, Mobley, Garuba and Johnson in some order, then Boston, Green, Kuminga, Ziarie, Springer, TJD...

Big Mojave King fan, Strazel is also good, Prkacin is basically a Mirotic/Bjelica type

[MGB8]

Isaac Okoro highlights - somewhere between Marion and Oladipo? Super-bouncy, strong, aggressive attacker - despite highlights shot is a work in progress (not NBA ready), solid bball IQ, can handle some... potentially very high upside if the shot develops...

Watch on YouTube

Thanks for the highlights and quick scouting reports.

I really really hope we dont get Okoro. Guys like him are a dime a dozen in the NBA and end up as busts and end of bench guys. At best a Justine Winslow and at worst a Micheal Kidd - Gilchrist. MKG shot 25% from 3 in college, Okoro shot 28% from 3 in college. Most guys in the NBA are long strong bouncy and athletic, but it takes real skill shooting and passing to stay in the league and make a impact.

MKG and Winslow are very good comps in terms of prospect type, and also Stanley Johnson. For every guy like Oladipo who develops shooting (and maybe Winslow, too), you have an MKG or Johnson who just doesn't. It's very hard to predict. I wonder if/hope that the NBA has folks who have studied historical prospects so much that they can break down patterns in players that make it more likely that they go one way versus another...

[Dresden]

Aaron Nesmith highlights - more than a shooter, but, yeah, one heck of a shooter - but also not super athletic (lacks high end speed and bounce, mostly an under the rim guy), not that big or long (though fairly thick/strong), not an exceptional ball handler (also against weaker competition on a bad team)...

Watch on YouTube

His wingspan is 6'10" I thought. That's long.

[Dresden]

Aaron Nesmith highlights - more than a shooter, but, yeah, one heck of a shooter - but also not super athletic (lacks high end speed and bounce, mostly an under the rim guy), not that big or long (though fairly thick/strong), not an exceptional ball handler (also against weaker competition on a bad team)...

Watch on YouTube

To me, the big question with Nesmith is if his shooting is legit or not. He made a big jump in 3 pt % from year 1 to year 2, but year 2 was cut short by injury, so is a small sample. If he can shoot as well in workouts as he did this season though, I'm on board with him. Guys that can shoot that good generally have long careers, and are pretty dang valuable, even if they don't become stars. Our 3 pt shooting was atrocious last year.

[MrFortune3]

Isaac Okoro highlights - somewhere between Marion and Oladipo? Super-bouncy, strong, aggressive attacker - despite highlights shot is a work in progress (not NBA ready), solid bball IQ, can handle some... potentially very high upside if the shot develops...

Watch on YouTube

Would not be mad at him on the Bulls. I want Avdija the most but Okoro might be the best fit.

[MrFortune3]

Next year's draft class is frankly looking pretty tank-worthy with Kuminga reclassifying.

Cade Cunningham
Jonathan Kuminga
Jalen Johnson
Jalen Green
Evan Mobley

I think a good number of these guys probably go #1 in this draft class.

The only guy worth tanking for is Emoni Bates and that is not the 2021 draft.

[MGB8]

Aaron Nesmith highlights - more than a shooter, but, yeah, one heck of a shooter - but also not super athletic (lacks high end speed and bounce, mostly an under the rim guy), not that big or long (though fairly thick/strong), not an exceptional ball handler (also against weaker competition on a bad team)...

Watch on YouTube

His wingspan is 6'10" I thought. That's long.

Something like that was announced (not sure from when), but he certainly doesn't look it. Same as Vassell supposedly having short arms --- that doesn't seem consistent with the eye test. I mean, Vassell's no Brandon Ingram, but who is?

Though wingspan measurements may be more an issue of how broad the player's chest and shoulders are, as opposed to arm length.

[TheSuzerain]

Most alarming thing about Vassell is his anemic assist totals.

Don't really want to have more than one non-passer in your line-up these days, unless you're just buidling your team around a Harden/LeBron type engine. And we certainly don't have one of those lying around.

[Dresden]

Something like that was announced (not sure from when), but he certainly doesn't look it. Same as Vassell supposedly having short arms --- that doesn't seem consistent with the eye test. I mean, Vassell's no Brandon Ingram, but who is?

Though wingspan measurements may be more an issue of how broad the player's chest and shoulders are, as opposed to arm length.

From draftnet:

Outlook: Has some parallels to Buddy Hield, though not the all around scoring threat, lacking the same ability to handle and create off the pull up … A shooting specialist if there ever was one, the modern NBA fits his playing style extremely well and his length gives the potential on defense … He’s arguably the best spot-up shooter in the draft and can provide a floor-spacing three-point threat immediately for any NBA team … His off-ball movement sets him apart from the pack, always moving, using screens and finding the soft spot in the defense to get an open look… Nesmith is elite in his strengths, but limited elsewhere … The lack of ball-handling and playmaking ability caps his potential as a well-rounded player… However, he knows his strengths, taking and making more three-pointers and shots inside the arc this year… Projects to be a specialist, and could turn into one of the better marksmen in the game one day … Should turn into a low-end starter or key role-player thanks to play style, and if he can develop a decent handle and improve lateral quickness he could be much more …

Notes: Possesses a 6-10 wingspan at 6-6, 215 lbs … Native of Charleston, South Carolina … Was rated 64th nationally coming into college by 247 Sports, 69th by ESPN …