Reggie Rose rips Bulls' inactivity

[League Circles]

Anyone have an explanation for why Derrick would issue his statement if he was behind Reggie's statements? Why wouldn't he just tell Gar and Pax that, hey guys, try to prove my brother wrong. I'm not commenting on this to the media.

Can anyone explain that?

They are trying to make this go away, people would of demanded a response by rose, so they got out ahead of it with a simple boilerplate statement.

Who is "they"? DERRICK made the statement. He can't be forced or coerced into making statements he doesn't want to make. If he really was in agreement with Reggie, he very, very easily could have told gar and Pax that they need to just not comment on the story to the media, and concentrate on proving his brother wrong.

It's impossible to imagine that the bad press from Reggie's statements weren't expected. They were made by Reggie knowing the consequences. If Derrick agreed, he wouldn't care to make a statement contradicting his brother, which he did in fact do. If Derrick didn't agree, he would likely make the exact statement he did make - supporting the team while making as least controversial statement as he could.

[Keller61]

Stephen A. Smith said this morning that Reggie said the same thing to him a year ago and that these comments are entirely Reggie's opinion and not Derrick's. I don't think we need to worry about him holding out if he's healthy.

[Saphir]

If the Bulls do amnesty Boozer (and we assume Rip is let go) this summer (also assuming we don't win it all), what it means is that the Bulls took their shot with Rip and Boozer, but an ACL injury and bad luck ate up those two seasons...time to re-load.

I know you're just bringing up a possibility, but I wanted to touch on this: I don't really see any tangible benefit to amnestying Boozer this summer unless the Bulls have an ace up their sleeve. Only thing off the top of my mind is Mirotic coming over ahead of schedule, but then, do the Bulls really need to amnesty Boozer to have that happen?

[DASMACKDOWN]

The Bulls basically need just one more great offensive player to have a dynasty type run for a title.

We are already playing championship type defense. We just need the extra weapons on offense to get us over the hump.

At this stage, we are the old Baltimore Ravens...or the Detroit Pistons pre Sheed.

It wasnt until their offensive players starting stepping up and Detroit getting Rasheed, did they win a title.

We basically need a Sheed to get us over the hump - offensively.

The issue to me and reason why I dont think it wont happen unless a big trade happens, really does come down to Deng.

As great as Deng is on both ends of the floor, its his overall offense that kills it for us.

Deng caa avg 15-17ppg but his efficiency and volume isnt high enough. As in he isnt explosive enough a scorer to go off for 30 at any time.

We actually need a JR Smith type guy.

Bulls fans might hate him, but he would the type of player needed to get us over the hump.

[The Explorer]

Stephen A. Smith said this morning that Reggie said the same thing to him a year ago and that these comments are entirely Reggie's opinion and not Derrick's. I don't think we need to worry about him holding out if he's healthy.

Thank you. All of the comments are entirely inconsistent with the Derrick Rose that we all have come to know over the past few years ie ("I would die on that court, you don't understand, I mean die")..

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Not saying Rose isn't a max player, but as far as a salary cap goes...if you want the $10M back to keep Korver and Brewer, look in Rose's checking account.

Hahaha. Wow. As if this thread couldn't get any worse. So now when the Bulls decide to dump players to save money, it's Rose's fault?!

This has gone from shocking to hilarious.

That point was also posted earlier in this thread by other posters. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read them. In this thread, D-Rose has been criticized for everything imaginable, including the fact that he signed a max contract.

I said this morning that if I didn't know any better, I could swear I was on the general board. It's blowing my mind because some of these negative Rose comments are coming from posters that I greatly admire on this board.

[League Circles]

Reggie Rose is trying to be the next WWW. Of course, he forgets that the real WWW is Thibbs' agent, you know, the Thibbs who Rose backs, who agreed to a five year extension with the Bulls just like Derrick.

Side note, Jalen Rose spoke about WWW on his podcast and, despite liking him and explaining that HE, Jalen, gave WWW his nickname (used to be known as fresh Wes), basically described WWW as nothing more than a "photobomber" who knows everyone.

[Sonny_D1]

Figure out a way, any way dammit, to bring Love to Chicago and this will all go away. I promise.

[DuckIII]

Wake me up when we have a REAL chance at a championship.

Are you paraphrasing Derrick Rose?

The hits.

They keep coming.

Love this thread, full meltdown.

As if that wasn't the explicit threat. Less of a meltdown and moreso hero worship.

[panthermark]

If the Bulls do amnesty Boozer (and we assume Rip is let go) this summer (also assuming we don't win it all), what it means is that the Bulls took their shot with Rip and Boozer, but an ACL injury and bad luck ate up those two seasons...time to re-load.

I know you're just bringing up a possibility, but I wanted to touch on this: I don't really see any tangible benefit to amnestying Boozer this summer unless the Bulls have an ace up their sleeve. Only thing off the top of my mind is Mirotic coming over ahead of schedule, but then, do the Bulls really need to amnesty Boozer to have that happen?

The only benefit would be to avoid paying the LT next season. Don't know if Uncle Jerry will feel about paying it two years in a row...but yeah, there really isn't much benefit from a a basketball standpoint.

[League Circles]

Stephen A. Smith said this morning that Reggie said the same thing to him a year ago and that these comments are entirely Reggie's opinion and not Derrick's. I don't think we need to worry about him holding out if he's healthy.

THANK YOU. We now have multiple writers, plus Reggie himself, who say this same thing. Yet we still have some of our best posters believing that's it's inconceivable that old man Reggie and his son/brother/meal ticket Derrick have a disagreement. If Reggie has been trying to control derrick his whole life, which is common knowledge, isn't it super possible that Reggie will speak his mind and try to influence a situation despite knowing that Derrick disagrees with him? Because Reggie will always believe he knows better than Derrick about what's best for Derrick.

Derrick is like DeNiro in Raging Bull, whereas Reggie is like Sal and Tommy. Sal and Tommy think that LaMotta listened to them, but though he had a couple of occasional lapses in judgement (throwing the fight, in a horrifically defiant way), eventually LaMotta's hard headed true soul came through. Let's just hope Derrick doesn't go off the deep end and beat Reggie to a pulp in front of his family, quit playing ball, and make bad jokes in a nightclub.

[burlydee]

Stephen A. Smith said this morning that Reggie said the same thing to him a year ago and that these comments are entirely Reggie's opinion and not Derrick's. I don't think we need to worry about him holding out if he's healthy.

Thank you. All of the comments are entirely inconsistent with the Derrick Rose that we all have come to know over the past few years ie ("I would die on that court, you don't understand, I mean die")..

Reggie's comments were so emotionally tinged, clumsy and not well thought out that its hard for me to believe they were part of some concerted effort to put pressure on management. They just sound like the rantings of an older brother who only sees things from his younger brother's perspective.

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

Wake me up when we have a REAL chance at a championship.

Are you paraphrasing Derrick Rose?

The hits.

They keep coming.

Love this thread, full meltdown.

[panthermark]

Not saying Rose isn't a max player, but as far as a salary cap goes...if you want the $10M back to keep Korver and Brewer, look in Rose's checking account.

Hahaha. Wow. As if this thread couldn't get any worse. So now when the Bulls decide to dump players to save money, it's Rose's fault?!

This has gone from shocking to hilarious.

That point was also posted earlier in this thread by other posters. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read them. In this thread, D-Rose has been criticized for everything imaginable, including the fact that he signed a max contract.

I said this morning that if I didn't know any better, I could swear I was on the general board. It's blowing my mind because some of these negative Rose comments are coming from posters that I greatly admire on this board.

Quit playing dumb.....or better yet. Point out where I actually criticized Rose for signing a max contract. I'll wait...

Everyone's salary went up...with Rose taking by far the biggest jump. The starters/core is still here, the more expensive 1 position/1 trick pony bench players had to go.

[WinCity]

The Bulls basically need just one more great offensive player to have a dynasty type run for a title.

We are already playing championship type defense. We just need the extra weapons on offense to get us over the hump.

At this stage, we are the old Baltimore Ravens...or the Detroit Pistons pre Sheed.

It wasnt until their offensive players starting stepping up and Detroit getting Rasheed, did they win a title.

We basically need a Sheed to get us over the hump - offensively.

The issue to me and reason why I dont think it wont happen unless a big trade happens, really does come down to Deng.

As great as Deng is on both ends of the floor, its his overall offense that kills it for us.

Deng caa avg 15-17ppg but his efficiency and volume isnt high enough. As in he isnt explosive enough a scorer to go off for 30 at any time.

We actually need a JR Smith type guy.

Bulls fans might hate him, but he would the type of player needed to get us over the hump.

Ahem. Ben Gordon.

[RedBulls23]

Not saying Rose isn't a max player, but as far as a salary cap goes...if you want the $10M back to keep Korver and Brewer, look in Rose's checking account.

Hahaha. Wow. As if this thread couldn't get any worse. So now when the Bulls decide to dump players to save money, it's Rose's fault?!

This has gone from shocking to hilarious.

Not to mention the ignorance in expecting a top 10 player coming off his rookie deal to take anything less than the max when no player in the history of the game has done it.

[Tenchi Ryu]

The reason Reggie is under fire is because he suggested a medically cleared Rose has the right to not play because of not liking his support. That is wrong, period. If the guy can play, he should play. Just because Reggie is sayin what a lot feel, those types of threats are unprofessional and is putting Rose in a spot he does not need to be in.

[mrlancers]

Chernobyl ain't got nothin' on this thread.

[jumpmanjay]

this would have all gone away if derricks statement explicitly stated "I love my brother, but his opinion is his own and not mine. I am appreciative to my teammates and the hard work they have put into making this season as successful as it has been. I am working hard every day to come back as soon as I can. My goal, as is the goal of my brother as well as the Chicago Bulls organization, is to bring the championship trophy back to Chicago where it belongs."

the statement as stated is PR blah. so vague, you can only assume the worst.

[CalilLove89]

Anyone have an explanation for why Derrick would issue his statement if he was behind Reggie's statements? Why wouldn't he just tell Gar and Pax that, hey guys, try to prove my brother wrong. I'm not commenting on this to the media.

Can anyone explain that?

They are trying to make this go away, people would of demanded a response by rose, so they got out ahead of it with a simple boilerplate statement.

Who is "they"? DERRICK made the statement. He can't be forced or coerced into making statements he doesn't want to make. If he really was in agreement with Reggie, he very, very easily could have told gar and Pax that they need to just not comment on the story to the media, and concentrate on proving his brother wrong.

It's impossible to imagine that the bad press from Reggie's statements weren't expected. They were made by Reggie knowing the consequences. If Derrick agreed, he wouldn't care to make a statement contradicting his brother, which he did in fact do. If Derrick didn't agree, he would likely make the exact statement he did make - supporting the team while making as least controversial statement as he could.

He had an impromptu meeting with pax before releasing his statement.

And athletes do damage control all the time, it is ridiculous for you to think otherwise.

Derrick may not agree with Reggie, but he may agree with him as well.

Bucher has been reporting tis for a year, these are old rumors that have been confirmed, duck illustrated this with his timeline post.