Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

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^^^Hopefully George feels massive regret for being unable to figure this out years ago. Bare minimum regret at wasting Caleb’s first season on his team retaining Eberflus. He can feel new validation today as long as he feels infinite regret of the past right next to the new validation. He won’t backslide if he remembers the regret. That’s how alcoholics stay sober. They play the whole tape in their heads. The regrets and fallout is never forgotten. Otherwise relapse happens. It would be great if Kevin Warren was George’s sponsor forever.

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Zabel’s been playing some center snaps. Might be a project there, but that physical potential seems legit

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[patryk7754]

I think an ideal off-season for our OL would be something like this

Ronnie Stanley, LT: 2-3 years 15-20m a year. I think it's a little hard to pinpoint his contract because of his age and injury history.

Trey Smith or Mekahi Becton, OG: Trey Smith is the best OL on the market but if we can sign BEcton for 12-15m instead of the likely 20m plus Smith is likely to get, then I think it would be worth the small trade-off in talent. My biggest concern with Becton would be his injury history but I don't think that's been an issue recently. Trey Smith, 5/100 or Becton, 4/60m

Kevin Zietler, OG: 1/5m. He would be an excellent bridge guard. He's a top OG in the NFL and has experience with Johnson.

Top FA Center: I think we have three really good options here. Dalman, Meyers, or Kelly. I think Kelly is the best but he's old so he'd be a bridge player. Dalman would be my top option. He's better than Meyers and I think he difference in pay would be inconsequential.

Dan Skipper and Matt Pryor: These two should be our top priorities for depth. I think Skipper would be a decent starter and like Zietler, he'll be cheap and have experience with Johnson.

Donovan Jackson, OG: he'd be my target in the draft to eventually replace Zeitler.

LT: Stanley/Jones
LG: Smith/Jackson
C: Dalman/Bates
RG: Zeitler/Pryor
RT: Wright/Skipper

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yea, can't read the tweets at work so IDK what they say but apparently had a great day one at senior bowl practice. I learned about him sometime during the middle of the season and have been high on him. He definitely fits the mold of more slim and agile OTs in the modern age. I was hopeful to get him in the later rounds because he plays for a small school but that was unlilkey before he's started showing skill and versatility at the senor bowl. i think the one draw back to his is the lack of competition he's played. I think he's best suited to sit on the bench for a year or two. I think that's true for most offensive linemen.

[Dresden]

- “The Bears, prior to (president/CEO) Kevin Warren, were really a mom-and-pop shop,” Smith said on the Bernstein & Harris Show on Tuesday afternoon. “The same people had been there for 100 years. They got comfortable in the way they did business, and it worked for them, but it was difficult for them to keep up with how things around the league were working.



“Kevin was able to kind of explain to them and show them how a building is structured, how a front office is structured, what it takes to attract top talent, both financially but more importantly otherwise.

“’If we want the best, we better act like the best,’ and present a case that shows it’s more than words – that there’s actually going to be action.

“This was the best process I’ve seen in a heck of a long time from any team in the National Football League.”



Smith gave huge props to the Warren operation even prior to the below acknowledgment of Poles’ role. Calls them ‘the new Bears”. We may look at this past season as a blessing in disguise which woke up this front office to total change as a continuation of Warren’s hire in the first place. Granted, the assistant coaches they hired were undoubtedly at the behest of BJ. We can only hope they continue to be self aware.

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Agreed. This may very well be the most impactful off-season in Bears history, more impactful than last off-season when CW was drafted.
This feels like a pivot away from the same old Bears that did everything wrongheaded and backwards.
Let us hope this is an actual start to a new day. Bears fan have been suffering from the dysfunction of Halas Hall for decades.

I'm wondering how George feels right now?
I bet just the accolades pouring about how the Bears finally got it right, is validation enough that a pivot in this new direction was the right thing to do.

I think to say that things hadn't changed in 100 years in the Bears org is not accurate. From what I recall- and I may be wrong on some of the details- but the championship era team was built largely by Jim Finks, who the Bears brought in and was someone with a deep knowledge of the league, and he quickly remade the Bears into a modern, talented team.

And then they also turned things over to Michael McCaskey, with his Harvard education, who also helped modernize the organization, and injected new blood and new ideas into the system. Between the two of them, they turned the Bears from a laughingstock into one of the NFL's signature teams.

What went wrong after the Ditka era is another story.

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Zabel’s been playing some center snaps. Might be a project there, but that physical potential seems legit

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yea, can't read the tweets at work so IDK what they say but apparently had a great day one at senior bowl practice. I learned about him sometime during the middle of the season and have been high on him. He definitely fits the mold of more slim and agile OTs in the modern age. I was hopeful to get him in the later rounds because he plays for a small school but that was unlilkey before he's started showing skill and versatility at the senor bowl. i think the one draw back to his is the lack of competition he's played. I think he's best suited to sit on the bench for a year or two. I think that's true for most offensive linemen.

Pretty sure he’s mostly an IOL prospect. I don’t believe he’ll measure at his listed height too. He looks like a Cody Whitehair kind of size.

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i'm pretty into the idea of signing kelly for a year or two as a bridge C and drafting someone like zabel as your long-term center. think it ticks a lot of boxes — kelly will likely come cheaper than a younger guy like dalman, which frees up money to spend elsewhere on the line. it gives caleb a little more time to get seasoning with a veteran C, so he's not totally on his own in calling protections. it gives zabel (or whichever rookie) time to develop as a C

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Sure seems like Zabel is meant for the FR. If he projects as a good center, this would be the time to be aggressive. May need to burn a Cunningham pick or more to get him. That could be a good use of Cunningham picks. If any team has the ammo to get back into the bottom of the FR, a team with 2 high 2RPs, and 2 extra 3RPs does. If that guy is a legit young center. Trade a future first package with Cunningham pick(s). Trade up. The Bears could do this without much of a problem.

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He literally got pushed back to the goal line from the 5 yard line on every rep. All would be considered a “QB pressure”

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If Zabel didn’t win his reps, nobody on offense won any reps in 2 days

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Pretty sure he’s mostly an IOL prospect. I don’t believe he’ll measure at his listed height too. He looks like a Cody Whitehair kind of size.

He is Cody's weight, don't know about arm length. Zabel's got the shortest wingspan (6'5" 5/8) and arms (32 /4") measured for an O-lineman at the Senior Bowl; 316 lbs makes him the second smallest OL there. He'd have to be all-world technique wise to be able to hold up against some of the NFL def tackles.

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Looks like Marshall's DE was the biggest winner from yesterday. Completely embarrassed Oregon's LT on one snap.

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If Zabel didn’t win his reps, nobody on offense won any reps in 2 days

I'm kinda 50/50 from the clips I saw. He was able to stand his ground a lot, but he was pushed back a lot as well. I think you have to understand when to give offensive linemen the benefit of the doubt on drills like those because they are at a disadvantage. The rusher can just straight bull rush and the "QB" is just stagnate. No movement whatsoever, and that's just not going to happen, and the rush has no other responsibility than force your way to this spot, which is just not how an in-game pass rush works. But, in pass pro, the center's main job is to sustain pocket depth, and that wasn't happening a decent amount of time.

But, that's not really surprising me. He hasn't faced top-tier talent and would most likely need time to adjust.

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I didn't realize Marshall's DE was rated to so high. I guess he's considered a 1st round prospect. I just assumed that his school would knock him down a bit. He'd be 1st defensive player out of Marshall to go in round one. 4th player overall.

Looks like his journey can be very similar to Kahlil Mack's. Was elite in college but there was concern about his ability to play against NFL talent and then he absolutely dominated Ohio st (which might be the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen in a college game) and propelled himself to being a top pick. I don't think Mike Green is going top five but he has crazy stats and great tape against Ohio st. Might be worth taking in the first.

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He literally got pushed back to the goal line from the 5 yard line on every rep. All would be considered a “QB pressure”

I thought I was the only one who felt this film looked terrible.

[NZB2323]

^^^Hopefully George feels massive regret for being unable to figure this out years ago. Bare minimum regret at wasting Caleb’s first season on his team retaining Eberflus. He can feel new validation today as long as he feels infinite regret of the past right next to the new validation. He won’t backslide if he remembers the regret. That’s how alcoholics stay sober. They play the whole tape in their heads. The regrets and fallout is never forgotten. Otherwise relapse happens. It would be great if Kevin Warren was George’s sponsor forever.

It’s hard to forget the “sell the team” chants.

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He literally got pushed back to the goal line from the 5 yard line on every rep. All would be considered a “QB pressure”

I thought I was the only one who felt this film looked terrible.

I wouldn't say terrible. He never let his guy get past him. He didn't let his guy just toss him aside or to the ground.

He was consistently getting pushed backwards into the pocket. Not letting some of the top seniors in the country completely abuse you is something to be proud of for sure. I want nothing to do with him as a starting lineman on my roster though. If he was drafted in the 5th round or later as a project then I wouldn't be mad though.

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Bears interviewed Ohio state's and Notre Dame's OL coaches for our opening

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He literally got pushed back to the goal line from the 5 yard line on every rep. All would be considered a “QB pressure”

I thought I was the only one who felt this film looked terrible.

I wouldn't say terrible. He never let his guy get past him. He didn't let his guy just toss him aside or to the ground.

He was consistently getting pushed backwards into the pocket. Not letting some of the top seniors in the country completely abuse you is something to be proud of for sure. I want nothing to do with him as a starting lineman on my roster though. If he was drafted in the 5th round or later as a project then I wouldn't be mad though.

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I definitely thought the d-lineman in the top tweet took it easy on him and could have gotten around I'd he were going all out.

[patryk7754]

Also, Jeremy Fowler reported that several teams expect the Bears to pursue Trey Smith. So that at least indicates Poles is ready to make high end move(s)