Some rumors I've been hearing

[dafunky1]

Not dissing Ralph, as he's just reporting what he's heard. But none of this stuff will happen and we know it.

To be fair to Ralph,he did call a few deals,but we all know teams are always discussing trades,so who knows?? Still,the rumors are always juicy discussion so keep em coming.

[Seinfeld]

Trade Marquis Teague at your peril

He has major speed that translates into a ball handling penetrator / secondary creator in our offense.

I also really like his defensive potential

Check back in 2 years on Marquis ...and , if he stack guard/wing shooters like JJ, Morrow, Korver , Budinger to mix in with defenders like Deng and Butler ....a guy like Marquis has a skill set that fits our need if he develops properly.

Waaay too premature to be giving him up.

I reckon we have an unpolished gem on our hands

Hey, I'm a big huge Teague fan, one of probably 3 or 4 of us who actually liked the pick and thought we got good value there.

I'm just not sure Thibs would ever play Rose at SG enough to make it worth our while to keep Teague around long-term.

Teague is the new Omer, even if he develops into a starting caliber PG, which I think he will, he just won't get enough minutes here to make it worth our while to pay him after his rookie deal is up.

And if we can unload Boozer without having to amnesty him, while picking up Redick in the process, that's a good deal. And Teague has much more value long-term to the Magic, while Nelson has more short-term value to us.

[jamesdiego]

I'd love to get Gortat here. With Dudley, what do you think was the deal being discussed? No way Boozer was involved. I could see Deng being requested by the Suns for those two. Do the Bulls hang up, or maybe not? I wonder what the details on the discussions were between the two teams

[SpinninHouse]

Not dissing Ralph, as he's just reporting what he's heard. But none of this stuff will happen and we know it.

To be fair to Ralph,he did call a few deals,but we all know teams are always discussing trades,so who knows?? Still,the rumors are always juicy discussion so keep em coming.

No question about it. Glad to have him post the info. The NBA rumor mill is always fun to discuss.

[burlydee]

I'd love to get Gortat here. With Dudley, what do you think was the deal being discussed? No way Boozer was involved. I could see Deng being requested by the Suns for those two. Do the Bulls hang up, or maybe not? I wonder what the details on the discussions were between the two teams

In my mind, it would have to be Boozer. B/c Deng for Gortat/Dudley, isn't a good deal for the Bulls tome. Dudley isn't a starter for a really good team in my opinion. The last couple of years he had career years playing with Nash. I don't see him keeping those numbers up. He is also a bad defender.

I was thinking something more like Rip, Nazr, and VRad for Gortat when the last 2 become tradeable? I like Gortat, but given the salaries on the respective teams, it seems hard to make a deal work between the two teams.

[Kerrsed]

I'd love to get Gortat here. With Dudley, what do you think was the deal being discussed? No way Boozer was involved. I could see Deng being requested by the Suns for those two. Do the Bulls hang up, or maybe not? I wonder what the details on the discussions were between the two teams

In my mind, it would have to be Boozer. B/c Deng for Gortat/Dudley, isn't a good deal for the Bulls tome. Dudley isn't a starter for a really good team in my opinion. The last couple of years he had career years playing with Nash. I don't see him keeping those numbers up. He is also a bad defender.

I was thinking something more like Rip, Nazr, and VRad for Gortat when the last 2 become tradeable? I like Gortat, but given the salaries on the respective teams, it seems hard to make a deal work between the two teams.

Sorry, but from the Suns point of view Rip/Nazr/VRad for Gortat is laughable.

According to an insider on the Celtic board, they too are looking at Gortat. Their deal revolved around Lee/Sullinger/Melo/Draft pick for Gortat. Suns FO dont like it without Bradley added. He also said that we (Suns) were trying to add Frye in the deal as well.

Then there is the OKC rumor that was floating around with Perkins/Lamb/PJ3/Pick for Gortat.

I just dont see how the Bulls have anything the Suns are looking for. We need a decent starting C (thats NOT Nazr), young talented prospects (not Rip & Radman) and draft picks. Only idea i can think of is a PHX/CHI/ORL 3 way. Its the only thing that makes sense from the Suns standpoint.

[Jvaughn]

If the deal is with Orlando, the deal I prefer is Boozer + Fillers for Redick + Harrington. Al's last two years of his contract (2013-2014 and 2014-2015) are non-guaranteed.

Would have to be some pretty considerable fillers. That's basically a full salary dump. I'd like that too, but doubt we'd be able to do so. Would take at least 2-3 draft picks + Mirotic to convince ORL to take that deal.

You're undervaluing Mirotic right now. He may not have value right now, but once he steps foot in the NBA and translate his game to the next level, his value will skyrocket. You cannot include him just to get rid of an albatross salary. I will only trade him as part of a package to get a player like Kevin Love.

I don't undervalue Mirotic at all. He's going to be a beast. That's why I said I don't see this deal happening. It's a straight salary dump where we get to reap the benefits the following year. Both Reddick and Harrington would be gone, which means we will have shed Boozer for basically pure capspace. I don't see ORL biting on that unless we sweeten the pot, which means multiple picks plus an asset. I don't see us doing that, and I wouldn't want us to.

[Evilash53]

If the Korver trade was any indication, this board would flip its collective ****'s if we salary dumped Boozer for Humphries. We're not in the position to be downgrading talent to save money, especially considering the amnesty possibility.

These rumors are fun and I enjoy reading about them, but we need to be more realistic with these trade ideas.

[burlydee]

I'd love to get Gortat here. With Dudley, what do you think was the deal being discussed? No way Boozer was involved. I could see Deng being requested by the Suns for those two. Do the Bulls hang up, or maybe not? I wonder what the details on the discussions were between the two teams

In my mind, it would have to be Boozer. B/c Deng for Gortat/Dudley, isn't a good deal for the Bulls tome. Dudley isn't a starter for a really good team in my opinion. The last couple of years he had career years playing with Nash. I don't see him keeping those numbers up. He is also a bad defender.

I was thinking something more like Rip, Nazr, and VRad for Gortat when the last 2 become tradeable? I like Gortat, but given the salaries on the respective teams, it seems hard to make a deal work between the two teams.

Sorry, but from the Suns point of view Rip/Nazr/VRad for Gortat is laughable.

According to an insider on the Celtic board, they too are looking at Gortat. Their deal revolved around Lee/Sullinger/Melo/Draft pick for Gortat. Suns FO dont like it without Bradley added. He also said that we (Suns) were trying to add Frye in the deal as well.

Then there is the OKC rumor that was floating around with Perkins/Lamb/PJ3/Pick for Gortat.

I just dont see how the Bulls have anything the Suns are looking for. We need a decent starting C (thats NOT Nazr), young talented prospects (not Rip & Radman) and draft picks. Only idea i can think of is a PHX/CHI/ORL 3 way. Its the only thing that makes sense from the Suns standpoint.

Are you a Suns fan? Just curious.

I don't think that is a good deal for the Suns, except that it allows them to save basically $7 million for next year and get out of Gortat's contract. It obviously isn't the worst contract they have, but I don't see anyone taking on Beasley or Frye's contract. I just don't think the Bulls can afford to give up assets to acquire someone who is basically a backup center. The Bulls just don't have a lot of young assets they are willing to part with. Deng is too important to the Bulls to give up for Gortat. So, yeah, like I said - I don't think the two teams are good trading partners. If you can get a lottery pick for Gortat, go for it.

If the Celtics are willing to give up Lee-Sullinger- Melo and a draft pick for Gortat, they can have him. The Bulls can't beat that offer.

[Seinfeld]

Would have to be some pretty considerable fillers. That's basically a full salary dump. I'd like that too, but doubt we'd be able to do so. Would take at least 2-3 draft picks + Mirotic to convince ORL to take that deal.

You're undervaluing Mirotic right now. He may not have value right now, but once he steps foot in the NBA and translate his game to the next level, his value will skyrocket. You cannot include him just to get rid of an albatross salary. I will only trade him as part of a package to get a player like Kevin Love.

I don't undervalue Mirotic at all. He's going to be a beast. That's why I said I don't see this deal happening. It's a straight salary dump where we get to reap the benefits the following year. Both Reddick and Harrington would be gone, which means we will have shed Boozer for basically pure capspace. I don't see ORL biting on that unless we sweeten the pot, which means multiple picks plus an asset. I don't see us doing that, and I wouldn't want us to.

Harrington's last 2 years are 50% guaranteed, which means we'd be on the hook for like $3.7 million each year, even if we cut him. Orlando can just cut him instead, that little bit of money means nothing to them, they are going young (which means cheap) and won't be anywhere near capped out.

[samwana]

Trade Marquis Teague at your peril

He has major speed that translates into a ball handling penetrator / secondary creator in our offense.

I also really like his defensive potential

Check back in 2 years on Marquis ...and , if he stack guard/wing shooters like JJ, Morrow, Korver , Budinger to mix in with defenders like Deng and Butler ....a guy like Marquis has a skill set that fits our need if he develops properly.

Waaay too premature to be giving him up.

I reckon we have an unpolished gem on our hands

Hey, I'm a big huge Teague fan, one of probably 3 or 4 of us who actually liked the pick and thought we got good value there.

I'm just not sure Thibs would ever play Rose at SG enough to make it worth our while to keep Teague around long-term.

Teague is the new Omer, even if he develops into a starting caliber PG, which I think he will, he just won't get enough minutes here to make it worth our while to pay him after his rookie deal is up.

And if we can unload Boozer without having to amnesty him, while picking up Redick in the process, that's a good deal. And Teague has much more value long-term to the Magic, while Nelson has more short-term value to us.

If Teague is not here for the long term it would be really good to get him some more playing time now, b/c when Rose is back on the court he has no chance at all to get on the court if Thibs doesn't want to try Rose and Teague together. IMO they could potentially be a dynamite backcourt for a few minutes if we need some quick offense. Rose would open up the court for Teague and he would have more room to operate. I'd love to see that before trading him away as a filler.
Of course if we get a really good deal and have to include Teague I would do it. But he is not a guy we have to get rid of. I'd rather throw someone like Vlad/Nazr as a filler, allthough the only thing they have in their favor is that they expire after the season.

[drivewayball]

Boozer to Brooklyn makes the most sense. The payroll there would be way overboard, but that may not matter to a multi-billionaire owner that wants to win. A lineup of Williams, Johnson, Wallace, Boozer and Lopez could probably be a serious contender this season ... certainly a two or three seed in the East at the worst. That lineup would replicate what Utah had with Williama/Boozer/Okur but with vastly better support at the two and three with Johnson and Wallace. Nothing could happen with Humphries until after January 15, but a Brooks/Humphries for Boozer deal would work for both teams.

[chadrucf]

I don't think that is a good deal for the Suns, except that it allows them to save basically $7 million for next year and get out of Gortat's contract. It obviously isn't the worst contract they have, but I don't see anyone taking on Beasley or Frye's contract. I just don't think the Bulls can afford to give up assets to acquire someone who is basically a backup center. The Bulls just don't have a lot of young assets they are willing to part with. Deng is too important to the Bulls to give up for Gortat. So, yeah, like I said - I don't think the two teams are good trading partners. If you can get a lottery pick for Gortat, go for it.

If the Celtics are willing to give up Lee-Sullinger- Melo and a draft pick for Gortat, they can have him. The Bulls can't beat that offer.

Gortat is not a backup center. He's a very good starting center.

He's also not on a bad contract, and the Suns have no reason to get rid of his contract at all.

[mauromartins]

Dealing Boozer for Hump is like amnesting without having to pay the salary.
If the trade does happen, Taj will start, not Hump.

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[chadrucf]

Boozer to Brooklyn makes the most sense. The payroll there would be way overboard, but that may not matter to a multi-billionaire owner that wants to win. A lineup of Williams, Johnson, Wallace, Boozer and Lopez could probably be a serious contender this season ... certainly a two or three seed in the East at the worst. That lineup would replicate what Utah had with Williama/Boozer/Okur but with vastly better support at the two and three with Johnson and Wallace. Nothing could happen with Humphries until after January 15, but a Brooks/Humphries for Boozer deal would work for both teams.

That Brooklyn team would be really fantastic. Both in potential and payroll.

[BullsFTW]

Boozer + Rip + Draft Picks for Afflalo + Big Baby

Or My Proposal

Boozer + Fillers for Humphries & Brooks

[drivewayball]

"Dealing Boozer for Hump is like amnesting without having to pay the salary.
If the trade does happen, Taj will start, not Hump."


Gibson has never been as productive as Humphries.

[coldfish]

"Dealing Boozer for Hump is like amnesting without having to pay the salary.
If the trade does happen, Taj will start, not Hump."


Gibson has never been as productive as Humphries.

KHump is the better rebounder, Taj is the better defender (which doesn't show up in the numbers). Neither is particularly good on offense but neither is worthless on that end. I think both would get a good bit of PT with Taj starting.

......

No offense to anyone in this thread, but I think trading Boozer for any of these packages is a little bit of a fantasy.

[ryannik09]

I'd much prefer to make a Boozer deal with Orlando.
Reddick and Big Baby for Boozer and our 1st rd pick this year works. The Bulls could then look to resign Reddick and trade Big Baby this summer.

[MAQ]

I don't get why anyone would want Big Baby...Dude's set to make 7 million a year for the next 3 years.

It's half of what Boozer makes, but it's also for half of the production.