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chadrucf wrote:Dieng gives you what Noah does? My goodness this is out of control. Step away from youtube.
Ralphb07 wrote:Okafor, Nene, Gortat, Anderson V and Asik (If Houston gets Dwight) could all be available. They aren't better then Noah, but adding any with LMA is a strong front court.
LMA is the 2nd scorer people want and he is a big which is a perfect combo to Rose. In this league you have to give to get and LMA is locked in for two more seasons. Portland is not going to just dump him.
Morten Jensen wrote:Yeah.. Not giving up Joakim. Why on earth should we do that when LMA wants out? No reason to pay 90 cent on the dollar when you only have to pay 50.
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Chitownbulls wrote:Zach Randolph could opt out next year
You guys think Gortat is terrible lol no he's not Noah but he does what Noah does at a cheaper contract.
He's probably in the top 10 in double doubles..he's not a scrub
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Mech Engineer wrote:chadrucf wrote:Dieng gives you what Noah does? My goodness this is out of control. Step away from youtube.
This is getting crazy. There are six or seven 7 footers in this draft and teams will trade all of them together for Noah if they can. And, not to forget Noah has a decent contract. The worst thing the Bulls can do is try to replicate 2010 in 2013 because they don't have the cap-space to sign good players next to LMA/Rose if they give up all their key players.
Ralphb07 wrote:Okafor, Nene, Gortat, Anderson V and Asik (If Houston gets Dwight) could all be available. They aren't better then Noah, but adding any with LMA is a strong front court.
LMA is the 2nd scorer people want and he is a big which is a perfect combo to Rose. In this league you have to give to get and LMA is locked in for two more seasons. Portland is not going to just dump him.
keshmoney wrote:LMA is a much better shot creator than Boozer. He's a guy you could throw it into and do a lot of damage. It's been a while since a player has said they wanted to come to Chicago. Garpax has to take advantage of this if they want us to contend now.
chadrucf wrote:Chitownbulls wrote:Zach Randolph could opt out next year
You guys think Gortat is terrible lol no he's not Noah but he does what Noah does at a cheaper contract.
He's probably in the top 10 in double doubles..he's not a scrub
They are nothing alike. What are you talking about?
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:keshmoney wrote:LMA is a much better shot creator than Boozer. He's a guy you could throw it into and do a lot of damage. It's been a while since a player has said they wanted to come to Chicago. Garpax has to take advantage of this if they want us to contend now.
Its unfortunate that LMA's shots result in him in the bottom quarter of all F/C in TS% (players scoring at least 10 ppg)
PJ Brown wrote:Second scores are hard to find, but so are all star centers. If Aldridge wants to be a Bull, you don't have to trade Noah to get him in the end, even if you don't get him right now.
Most of the trade Noah arguments depend on the assumption we can somehow sneak in an steal Howard (no way) or at least take for granted we can get a substitute center. Teams have spend just as long trying to find a legit center as the Bulls have trying to get a #2 gun, often totally failing. Noah is also locked up contractually.
Lastly, Noah is the team leader and a true winner, a commodity just as rare as scorer or all-star center. Even Rose has acknowledged that Noah is essentially the team's leader.
Chitownbulls wrote:Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Chitownbulls wrote:Zach Randolph could opt out next year
You guys think Gortat is terrible lol no he's not Noah but he does what Noah does at a cheaper contract.
He's probably in the top 10 in double doubles..he's not a scrub
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Marcin Gortat finished 7th in double doubles in 2011-2012, ahead of Greg Monroe, Noah, josh smith, David lee, Marc gasol, Lebrun, Duncan...list goes on
Last year he got injured...I'll take Gortat and be happy
blumeany wrote:Ok, I'm not a fan of trading Noah (or keeping Deng), but here's what I propose:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q7dohg9
Chicago gets: Aldridge, Asik
Portland gets: Noah, Robinson
Houston gets: Hamilton, TPE
Why for Chicago: Aldridge becomes your #2. Asik fills the void at Center and gives you a guy who's played in the system before and can be a defensive presence. Allows you to trade or amnesty Boozer and possibly re-sign Deng.
Why for Portland: You get what you want, plus a former top 5 pick from last year's draft.
Why for Houston: You get rid of Asik and Robinson's salaries, minus 1 mil for the Hamilton buyout. Plenty of space for Howard and probably something else.
jc23 wrote:Goran + Lonzo + Zach = the Dragon Ball Z line up.
blumeany wrote:Ok, I'm not a fan of trading Noah (or keeping Deng), but here's what I propose:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=q7dohg9
Chicago gets: Aldridge, Asik
Portland gets: Noah, Robinson
Houston gets: Hamilton, TPE
Why for Chicago: Aldridge becomes your #2. Asik fills the void at Center and gives you a guy who's played in the system before and can be a defensive presence. Allows you to trade or amnesty Boozer and possibly re-sign Deng.
Why for Portland: You get what you want, plus a former top 5 pick from last year's draft.
Why for Houston: You get rid of Asik and Robinson's salaries, minus 1 mil for the Hamilton buyout. Plenty of space for Howard and probably something else.
Magilla_Gorilla wrote:Chitownbulls wrote:Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Not.
Even.
Close.
Marcin Gortat finished 7th in double doubles in 2011-2012, ahead of Greg Monroe, Noah, josh smith, David lee, Marc gasol, Lebrun, Duncan...list goes on
Last year he got injured...I'll take Gortat and be happy
Carlos Boozer was 5th in Double/Doubles (Gortat was 41st) - why are we looking to replace him? Oh, thats right, because double/doubles are a near-worthless stat.