Bulls Might Now Be More Likely To Trade Luol Deng

[whodey]

Deng for Tyreke is what we should go for IMO. Good for both teams IMO.

Oh god no. I was watching Cavs-Pelicans the other night and the announcer brought up some crazy stat about the percentage of points that Evans puts up and it was like 75% in the paint. We have to get shooters that can handle the rock. Now I would love to get Gordon for Deng. I think a rotation of Rose, Gordon, and Butler would be extremely exciting.

[Rerisen]

What's crazy is if Deng lands in the righ fit w scorers and handlers then he could be really good.

Deng could help the right team a ton.

If he only had to score like 14 or 15 PPG, shave off those couple adventurous create your own chances per game, his efficiency could even be good. Well if he can find the open three shot.

[Ralphb07]

Since we have no depth on the bench I expect the Bulls to have no choice but to make a trade because the losses are about to pile up here.

[League Circles]

We have to get shooters that can handle the rock.

Shooter that can handle the rock usually fall into two categories:

1) unattainable stars

2) undersized guys with no athleticism that suck on defense

I agree we need shooting, but we need creation and attacking at least as much. Without Rose we have none of it. Plus, Tyreke is less expensive and less injury prone than Gordon, and is a better and much bigger defender.

[Rerisen]

We have to get shooters that can handle the rock.

Shooter that can handle the rock usually fall into two categories:

1) unattainable stars

2) undersized guys with no athleticism that suck on defense

I agree we need shooting, but we need creation and attacking at least as much. Without Rose we have none of it. Plus, Tyreke is less expensive and less injury prone than Gordon, and is a better and much bigger defender.

Yeah, its easy to get lured into the Clippers model when balls just stumble into the hands of Dudley and Redick and they never miss open threes. Then you look at their defense, 28th, and sober up.

[Doom]

i am looking forward to us getting some new blood under thibs who can be actual contributors to this team. it will make things more exciting

This is a perfect example of making a trade for the sake of making a trade, and not because it makes the team better. And if you don't think Deng is an "actual contributor" to the team, I'm not sure you watch any games. Deng is key to the team, and you'll miss him sorely when he's gone, especially when you realize that the players who replace him don't make the grass any greener.

of course he's an actual contributor now, but in 2-3 years when we will be a contender again? im not so sure

[whodey]

Butler has value. It is NECESSARY trading him.

Here's the point. What exactly do you trade Butler for when he's making $1 million this year? I mean maybe, and it's a long shot, but you may be able to package Butler with Boozer and get something in return. I doubt it though.

But if you deal Deng, then maybe we can get some expirings and a pick in the 15-25 range, even though I doubt that as well. I think we either deal him for a player with 2-3 years left on a contract that we see as a long term fit next to Rose or we just let him expire, amnesty Boozer, and use our cap space. If we go the cap space route, we absolutely have to dump Dunleavy, Teague, and maybe even Snell. Maybe Taj too, but I don't mind Taj, Noah, and Mirotic as a rotation for our bigs.

You trade butler for a pick. When deng leaves butler is going to have us by the balls.Butler agent cant tell the bulls look You dont have another guy even close to butler now that you dont have deng, "show us the money". Butler can demand what he wants from the bulls. I would trade butler for a pick.Or else people on here are going to turn on him once he gets that fat contract he putting up taking 6 shots and scoring 11 points.

I'd rather see where the negotiations go this offseason before trading Butler. I just don't see a team giving us a pick in the potential 10-20 range for Butler. And I really don't want a pick in the 21-30 range. There's too much talk of complete elimination of our team next year. But I still have confidence in Rose's ability when he returns and expect to compete next year for a title. If it goes my way, I'd like to see Chicago with a rotation of Rose, E Gordon, Butler, Gibson, and Noah next year. The bench would be made up of Hinrich, Snell, Dunleavy, Mitotic, Teague, Charlotte pick, and our own pick.

[kingkirk]

Deng for Tyreke is what we should go for IMO. Good for both teams IMO.

I'm assuming you haven't watched any if the Pelicans this season.

Evans, his 11 million and .433 TS can **** right off.

[coldfish]

of course he's an actual contributor now, but in 2-3 years when we will be a contender again? im not so sure

The Bulls probably aren't going to be contenders 2-3 years from now. At best, 5 years and it might turn into one of those treadmills that goes on for a few decades.

I know that the Bulls team as is and healthy isn't the best in the league but people drastically underestimate how hard it is to be even that good.

[Chi town]

I'd trade Deng and Butler for Barnes or Oladipo.

[League Circles]

Deng for Tyreke is what we should go for IMO. Good for both teams IMO.

I'm assuming you haven't watched any if the Pelicans this season.

Evans, his 11 million and .433 TS can **** right off.

That's right. I haven't, and don't need to. I've seen enough of him over his career to know his talents. His TS% the last two years was .558 and .512. He just turned 24 years old and is in a different role, with different teammates, and frankly out of position as far as I understand. Tyreke was more efficient last year than Deng has been in all but one year of his ten year career, and that was 7 years ago.

[whodey]

We have to get shooters that can handle the rock.

Shooter that can handle the rock usually fall into two categories:

1) unattainable stars

2) undersized guys with no athleticism that suck on defense

I agree we need shooting, but we need creation and attacking at least as much. Without Rose we have none of it. Plus, Tyreke is less expensive and less injury prone than Gordon, and is a better and much bigger defender.

Defense is not a concern to me when we still have Butler, Gibson, and Noah. Not to mention, I thought Rose's defense over his last 5 games was great. He shut down Kyrie, Ty Lawson, and Lillard to name a few. I can't handle teams being able to pack the paint going forward. I'll take Butler's stroke and ability to shoot off the pump fake over Deng any day. You throw in Gordon on the other side and we're going to have the best spacing since Korver left.

[wonderboy2]

GMs are smart & kno that deng was an all-star selection based on his 'grit.' Probably the worst two time all star I'm recent memory if not ever. He's a role player.

lmao what the hell are you talking about?

[transplant]

Wiretap usually just summarizes an article, but this time Wiretap took some serious liberties with KC's article. What KC wrote was that if Rose was going to be out for the season, the Bulls might be more likely to trade Deng. Kind of self-evident.

I don't think the Bulls could get much for Deng in trade anyway. I've been reading for years that the team's own fans don't think much of him. He's unathletic, an inefficient scorer, can't create for himself, has absolutely no handle and is injury prone. Might as well just hang on to him and keep the head coach happy.

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[TheGameChanger]

Deng for Tyreke is interesting. I like it. A younger player who can handle the ball and has good size.

Looking at this next season. Hopefully we can get the Cats Pick this year and use it.

Rose - New PG - Teague
Tyreke - Snell
Jimmy - Mike D
Taj - Nikola - Murphy
Noah - New C

[kingkirk]

That's right. I haven't, and don't need to. I've seen enough of him over his career to know his talents. His TS% the last two years was .558 and .512. He just turned 24 years old and is in a different role, with different teammates, and frankly out of position as far as I understand. Tyreke was more efficient last year than Deng has been in all but one year of his ten year career, and that was 7 years ago.

No where in the above have you mentioned his selfish play, his regression over his 5 seasons and the fact that he hasn't improved much at all.

To this date, his rookie season was still his best.

He is a wasted talent and the appeal of Evans should be lost given he is making 44 million.

[League Circles]

No where in the above have you mentioned his selfish play, his regression over his 5 seasons and the fact that he hasn't improved much at all.

Why do you say he's regressed? Last year he had career highs in efficiency and career low in turnovers. His assist% and scoring volume were down a little bit but IMO that can be largely explained by his career low usage rate. If he is a little selfish, that's not necessarily bad IMO. This team passes too much and needs somebody with some swagger to attack and not play Hoosiers ball all the time. Oh, and he hasn't played 5 seasons. He's played 4 seasons.

He is a wasted talent and the appeal of Evans should be lost given he is making 44 million.

Last year he put up 18 points, 5 boards, 4 assists and 2 steals per 36 on great efficiency with low turnovers and fouls.

[Gramatika5O]

Last year was Tyreke's best season

[Makaveli92]

Deng for Tyreke is interesting. I like it. A younger player who can handle the ball and has good size.

Looking at this next season. Hopefully we can get the Cats Pick this year and use it.

Rose - New PG - Teague
Tyreke - Snell
Jimmy - Mike D
Taj - Nikola - Murphy
Noah - New C

Before this season I wanted Deng for Evans, but i think NO wouldnt do it, so i would rather take Eric Gordon

[MrFortune3]

Unless you plan to tank the season there is no reason to move Deng. You have passed up moving him for 2-3 years now when you could have netted a top 5-10 pick for him and selected a younger player.