Game 16, Bulls @ Jazz, Nov 22, 8:00PM CT, 3:00AM CET

johnnyvann840 · Post #141 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:58 am

One of the big problems with having young talent and a garbage team and coach is that the young guys don't develop. At least with the Sixers and Brown they had a coach who could teach and get the guys to play hard every night. This team is just a joke. I mean this is focking unwatchable garbage. Seriously garbage.

Alcatraz17 · Post #142 » by **Alcatraz17** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:58 am

Utah is solid

Post #143 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:59 am

Dunn's tried to avoid contact with the reverse like 3 times when he should've just gone up with it tonight.

johnnyvann840 · Post #144 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:01 am

Alcatraz17 wrote:Utah is solid

Their 3rd string could crush us and they are just an average team without Gobert... especially the team we are seeing tonight. No professional team should be getting embarrassed like this or looking so UNprofessional. Honestly, the Bulls look like they have NEVER had a single practice together. And I'm not even exaggerating. They look like they met this morning.

Alcatraz17 · Post #145 » by **Alcatraz17** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:01 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:One of the big problems with having young talent and a garbage team and coach is that the young guys don't develop. At least with the Sixers and Brown they had a coach who could teach and get the guys to play hard every night. This team is just a joke. I mean this is focking unwatchable garbage. Seriously garbage.

No matter what the situation is...next year there needs to be focus on more veteran leadership an lead by example guys brought in.

Alcatraz17 · Post #146 » by **Alcatraz17** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:03 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:
Alcatraz17 wrote:Utah is solid

Their 3rd string could crush us and they are just an average team without Gobert... especially the team we are seeing tonight. No professional team should be getting embarrassed like this or looking so UNprofessional. Honestly, the Bulls look like they have NEVER had a single practice together. And I'm not even exaggerating. They look like they met this morning.

Well coached, disciplined.

johnnyvann840 · Post #147 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:03 am

Alcatraz17 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:One of the big problems with having young talent and a garbage team and coach is that the young guys don't develop. At least with the Sixers and Brown they had a coach who could teach and get the guys to play hard every night. This team is just a joke. I mean this is focking unwatchable garbage. Seriously garbage.

No matter what the situation is...next year there needs to be focus on more veteran leadership an lead by example guys brought in.

There NEEDS to be a new coach. Period. IDC if they have to pay two coaches. They cannot go on with him.

ctl131 · Post #148 » by **ctl131** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:03 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:One of the big problems with having young talent and a garbage team and coach is that the young guys don't develop. At least with the Sixers and Brown they had a coach who could teach and get the guys to play hard every night. This team is just a joke. I mean this is focking unwatchable garbage. Seriously garbage.

There is no actual offense, so its almost impossible for anyone to get any better. Basically run the same little passing sequence every time down the court until whoever has the ball either dribbles into trouble or chucks a 3. Every time Dunn or Grant tries to drive to the hoop to make a play its just 3 guys standing behind the 3 point line and RoLo standing around being guarded in the paint. No one moves to get open, no one cuts to the hoop, there is rarely ever a pocket pass for the ball handler on the rare occasion they do get to the hoop. I saw a set earlier that Hoiberg drew up after a timeout that was initiated too late in the shot clock and Grant almost collided with Lopez because the play was drawn up that way. Terrible.

johnnyvann840 · Post #149 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:04 am

GimmeDat wrote:Dunn's tried to avoid contact with the reverse like 3 times when he should've just gone up with it tonight.

It's why he never gets to the line... This is something a good coach could really help with too.

Threekola · Post #150 » by **Threekola** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 am

Anybody still watching? I tried.

TheSuzerain · Post #151 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 am

Kings up 15 early.

TANKSGIVING CAME EARLY

Jcool0 · Post #152 » by **Jcool0** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:05 am

FYI Stacy Utah isnt that good... Bulls are just that bad...

Post #153 » by **Payt10** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:06 am

Threekola wrote:Anybody still watching? I tried.

When Markkanen struggles, it's almost impossible to watch this team.

johnnyvann840 · Post #154 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:07 am

I'm really afraid Lauri could get ruined in this organization right now.

Post #155 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:08 am

Yeah, this was one of the least watchable games of the season so far for me. Markkanen nonexistant. Dunn was okay but could've done better with the opportunities he had.

TheSuzerain · Post #156 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:09 am

GimmeDat wrote:Yeah, this was one of the least watchable games of the season so far for me. Markkanen nonexistant. Dunn was okay but could've done better with the opportunities he had.

The standards for Dunn are so hilariously low on this forum.

johnnyvann840 · Post #157 » by **johnnyvann840** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:09 am

ctl131 wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:One of the big problems with having young talent and a garbage team and coach is that the young guys don't develop. At least with the Sixers and Brown they had a coach who could teach and get the guys to play hard every night. This team is just a joke. I mean this is focking unwatchable garbage. Seriously garbage.

There is no actual offense, so its almost impossible for anyone to get any better. Basically run the same little passing sequence every time down the court until whoever has the ball either dribbles into trouble or chucks a 3. Every time Dunn or Grant tries to drive to the hoop to make a play its just 3 guys standing behind the 3 point line and RoLo standing around being guarded in the paint. No one moves to get open, no one cuts to the hoop, there is rarely ever a pocket pass for the ball handler on the rare occasion they do get to the hoop. I saw a set earlier that Hoiberg drew up after a timeout that was initiated too late in the shot clock and Grant almost collided with Lopez because the play was drawn up that way. Terrible.

It's a bad beyond description.

Post #158 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:12 am

TheSuzerain wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Yeah, this was one of the least watchable games of the season so far for me. Markkanen nonexistant. Dunn was okay but could've done better with the opportunities he had.

The standards for Dunn are so hilariously low on this forum.

Were you expecting 20 and 10?

Dunn had a PER of 8 last season, the bar shouldn't be high. We should be looking for progress. He had some nice flashes, boarded well, but still sloppy with the ball and avoiding contact several times and missed instead of attacking and probably getting to the line.

patagonia · Post #159 » by **patagonia** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:13 am

dumbell78 · Post #160 » by **dumbell78** » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:14 am

So glad I'm at work.