Bulls Free Agency - Merged

[erlim]

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Uh uh, already lived through the MdDermott hell once, pick someone else to be our new Hinrich.

I said it before, but I'd be all for bringing Jamal Crawford back. Obviously, he's not the same confused kid as when he played WITH Fred Hoiberg on the Bulls. He seems to genuinely have a great basketball mind and great mentality. Dude seems like one of the most well adjusted people in the NBA, period. People don't have this long of careers by accident.

He's got a close friendship to Lavine, had a similar situation with his ACL, and has just won teammate of the year. For some reason, he's still really quick and mobile. He suits the modern NBA. He could be a tremendous influence in making sure some of our young guys get into the right mindset and habits to prolong their careers, and be a great mentor. I don't know, I'd rather take him than Lance Stevenson; they probably have a similar impact on wins and losses, but Lance doesn't seem like the best big brother type of figure---I don't know. And Rodney Hood will be expensive to outbid Cleveland, and would have much more of an affect of playing us out of the lotto than a lot of us felt Holliday and Lopez did last season.

I'm endeared by the idea of trading Holliday and replacing his spot on the roster with Jamal Crawford. It seems like, in the best case scenario, it would put more focus on the young core while simultaneously giving them more support for life and careers in the NBA. Maybe that's totally overselling it, but I really feel that to become a good team, we really need Dunn and Lavine to ball out and reach lofty potentials.

[thedarkstark]

Rolo will have to be benched for WCJ to get burn. Rolo is untradeable, even as an expiring, in today’s NBA.

There's absolutely no such thing as an untradable expiring contract. The bigger the expiring, the better. It means the team receiving said player/contract can likely ship out an equally big/bad/longer albatross of a contract without needing to take additional players back in the trade.

In addition to that, Lopez is a serviceable bench player on any team in the league. Despite the leagues transition to small ball and versatility, there are not 60 centers in the NBA better than Lopez.

The Almighty Golden State Warriors starting Centers for the past 4 seasons have been Zaza Pachulia/Andrew Bogut. Pretty much the only criteria the Warriors look for in a C: Set good screens, hustle, play dirty. Lopez fits the bill and would absolutely get minutes even for the Dubs.

Of course Rolo can be traded if the Bulls are willing to take a crap contract back. But he’s making $14.3 M this year, and he’s not a modern NBA big. The going rate for someone like Lopez is $4-5 M. No way we are trading him for a future pick, even a second rounder. Especially not to GS, a team with severe cap issues. No way they are paying repeater tax on Lopez’s salary. All the C’s they had last year were on league minimums or close to it.

I expect the Bulls will try to trade Rolo through the trade deadline, and when they are unsuccessful, they will waive him so WCJ has a clear path to playing time for the last two months of the season.

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Nice job completely missing the point. I'm not suggesting trade him to GS, but this notion that big men are dead is just completely false. The best team in the league has used a traditional space eating big body center to set picks and grab boards.

If they can use him then any team in the league can use him. Yes the league is trending towards smaller more athletic guys playing C but the more traditional C's still have a place in the league.

I'm also not suggesting that he has tremendous trade value, but if a team is looking to dump a bad contract they could certainly do worse than getting ROLO in return. And that's precisely what I think the Bulls should do, trade him for a really bad 2 year contract + a young asset/picks.

[MisterRoy]

Rolo to the Spurs. Book it!

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Just being funny...although I think it would be a good fit.

[bulliedog8]

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[holv03]

Rolo to the Spurs. Book it!

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Just being funny...although I think it would be a good fit.

Bulls will be looking into the Kawhi situation maybe from a far but you never know if we end up engaging in anything.

[Butler4thewin]

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Just being funny...although I think it would be a good fit.

Bulls will be looking into the Kawhi situation maybe from a far but you never know if we end up engaging in anything.

Paul George is a free agent and would fit our system with his shooting but khawhi if he's willing to resign here then I say pull the trigger

[NewEra21]

Just being funny...although I think it would be a good fit.

Bulls will be looking into the Kawhi situation maybe from a far but you never know if we end up engaging in anything.

Paul George is a free agent and would fit our system with his shooting but khawhi if he's willing to resign here then I say pull the trigger

The only thing stopping Kawhi from going to the Lakers are the Spurs being reluctant to trade him to a Western Conference team. Even if they are, he will go to Boston or Philadelphia, whoever ponies up more. Bulls aren't in the conversation.

[bad knees]

There's absolutely no such thing as an untradable expiring contract. The bigger the expiring, the better. It means the team receiving said player/contract can likely ship out an equally big/bad/longer albatross of a contract without needing to take additional players back in the trade.

In addition to that, Lopez is a serviceable bench player on any team in the league. Despite the leagues transition to small ball and versatility, there are not 60 centers in the NBA better than Lopez.

The Almighty Golden State Warriors starting Centers for the past 4 seasons have been Zaza Pachulia/Andrew Bogut. Pretty much the only criteria the Warriors look for in a C: Set good screens, hustle, play dirty. Lopez fits the bill and would absolutely get minutes even for the Dubs.

Of course Rolo can be traded if the Bulls are willing to take a crap contract back. But he’s making $14.3 M this year, and he’s not a modern NBA big. The going rate for someone like Lopez is $4-5 M. No way we are trading him for a future pick, even a second rounder. Especially not to GS, a team with severe cap issues. No way they are paying repeater tax on Lopez’s salary. All the C’s they had last year were on league minimums or close to it.

I expect the Bulls will try to trade Rolo through the trade deadline, and when they are unsuccessful, they will waive him so WCJ has a clear path to playing time for the last two months of the season.

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Nice job completely missing the point. I'm not suggesting trade him to GS, but this notion that big men are dead is just completely false. The best team in the league has used a traditional space eating big body center to set picks and grab boards.

If they can use him then any team in the league can use him. Yes the league is trending towards smaller more athletic guys playing C but the more traditional C's still have a place in the league.

I'm also not suggesting that he has tremendous trade value, but if a team is looking to dump a bad contract they could certainly do worse than getting ROLO in return. And that's precisely what I think the Bulls should do, trade him for a really bad 2 year contract + a young asset/picks.

Take a look around the league and find me a team that could use Rolo, and and has the trade assets and motivation that you are envisioning. There are none. That’s because there is a glut of players like Rolo right now, driven both by increased supply (a huge number of C’s were drafted last year) and decreased demand (because of the league-wide move to more mobile C’s). Feel free to keep hope alive. But it ain’t happening.


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[erlim]

Bulls will be looking into the Kawhi situation maybe from a far but you never know if we end up engaging in anything.

Paul George is a free agent and would fit our system with his shooting but khawhi if he's willing to resign here then I say pull the trigger

The only thing stopping Kawhi from going to the Lakers are the Spurs being reluctant to trade him to a Western Conference team. Even if they are, he will go to Boston or Philadelphia, whoever ponies up more. Bulls aren't in the conversation.

I expect the Lakers to win with the comically worse deal. History repeats.

[sco]

Of course Rolo can be traded if the Bulls are willing to take a crap contract back. But he’s making $14.3 M this year, and he’s not a modern NBA big. The going rate for someone like Lopez is $4-5 M. No way we are trading him for a future pick, even a second rounder. Especially not to GS, a team with severe cap issues. No way they are paying repeater tax on Lopez’s salary. All the C’s they had last year were on league minimums or close to it.

I expect the Bulls will try to trade Rolo through the trade deadline, and when they are unsuccessful, they will waive him so WCJ has a clear path to playing time for the last two months of the season.

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Nice job completely missing the point. I'm not suggesting trade him to GS, but this notion that big men are dead is just completely false. The best team in the league has used a traditional space eating big body center to set picks and grab boards.

If they can use him then any team in the league can use him. Yes the league is trending towards smaller more athletic guys playing C but the more traditional C's still have a place in the league.

I'm also not suggesting that he has tremendous trade value, but if a team is looking to dump a bad contract they could certainly do worse than getting ROLO in return. And that's precisely what I think the Bulls should do, trade him for a really bad 2 year contract + a young asset/picks.

Take a look around the league and find me a team that could use Rolo, and and has the trade assets and motivation that you are envisioning. There are none. That’s because there is a glut of players like Rolo right now, driven both by increased supply (a huge number of C’s were drafted last year) and decreased demand (because of the league-wide move to more mobile C’s). Feel free to keep hope alive. But it ain’t happening.


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I agree. That's why I want to keep him. He's our best leader. Plays the right way. Wants to win. Will be resignable on a cheap deal as a backup next year.

[PrimzyBulls81]

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Uh uh, already lived through the MdDermott hell once, pick someone else to be our new Hinrich.

I said it before, but I'd be all for bringing Jamal Crawford back. Obviously, he's not the same confused kid as when he played WITH Fred Hoiberg on the Bulls. He seems to genuinely have a great basketball mind and great mentality. Dude seems like one of the most well adjusted people in the NBA, period. People don't have this long of careers by accident.

He's got a close friendship to Lavine, had a similar situation with his ACL, and has just won teammate of the year. For some reason, he's still really quick and mobile. He suits the modern NBA. He could be a tremendous influence in making sure some of our young guys get into the right mindset and habits to prolong their careers, and be a great mentor. I don't know, I'd rather take him than Lance Stevenson; they probably have a similar impact on wins and losses, but Lance doesn't seem like the best big brother type of figure---I don't know. And Rodney Hood will be expensive to outbid Cleveland, and would have much more of an affect of playing us out of the lotto than a lot of us felt Holliday and Lopez did last season.

I'm endeared by the idea of trading Holliday and replacing his spot on the roster with Jamal Crawford. It seems like, in the best case scenario, it would put more focus on the young core while simultaneously giving them more support for life and careers in the NBA. Maybe that's totally overselling it, but I really feel that to become a good team, we really need Dunn and Lavine to ball out and reach lofty potentials.

Why would Jamal want to come here??? his career is getting close to over.. he wants to compete and maybe win something,not to
play for average team in rebuild

[erlim]

Uh uh, already lived through the MdDermott hell once, pick someone else to be our new Hinrich.

I said it before, but I'd be all for bringing Jamal Crawford back. Obviously, he's not the same confused kid as when he played WITH Fred Hoiberg on the Bulls. He seems to genuinely have a great basketball mind and great mentality. Dude seems like one of the most well adjusted people in the NBA, period. People don't have this long of careers by accident.

He's got a close friendship to Lavine, had a similar situation with his ACL, and has just won teammate of the year. For some reason, he's still really quick and mobile. He suits the modern NBA. He could be a tremendous influence in making sure some of our young guys get into the right mindset and habits to prolong their careers, and be a great mentor. I don't know, I'd rather take him than Lance Stevenson; they probably have a similar impact on wins and losses, but Lance doesn't seem like the best big brother type of figure---I don't know. And Rodney Hood will be expensive to outbid Cleveland, and would have much more of an affect of playing us out of the lotto than a lot of us felt Holliday and Lopez did last season.

I'm endeared by the idea of trading Holliday and replacing his spot on the roster with Jamal Crawford. It seems like, in the best case scenario, it would put more focus on the young core while simultaneously giving them more support for life and careers in the NBA. Maybe that's totally overselling it, but I really feel that to become a good team, we really need Dunn and Lavine to ball out and reach lofty potentials.

Why would Jamal want to come here??? his career is getting close to over.. he wants to compete and maybe win something,not to
play for average team in rebuild

Maybe he doesn't. I mean, yeah maybe he wants to go to the warriors or something. Who knows. I am not saying he wants the Bulls, but I'm saying he'd be a good piece.

[Chi town]

So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?

[holv03]

So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?

I would say they are a 50 win team in the east. If Lebron goes out West I could see them being even better. They could be a top 3 team in the East.

[Chi town]

So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?

I would say they are a 50 win team in the east. If Lebron goes out West I could see them being even better. They could be a top 3 team in the East.

I would agree. BOS PHI IND

We will be the Pacers unless one of our young guys breaks out. Lowe seems to think Dunn will be the guy.

[Chi town]

So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?

I would say they are a 50 win team in the east. If Lebron goes out West I could see them being even better. They could be a top 3 team in the East.

So Holv, how long do you think this Lavine contract will take?

If Bulls do let him walk will they push for a S&T or will they just let him go?

If he does walk what is their backup plan?

[Red8911]

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Just being funny...although I think it would be a good fit.

Bulls will be looking into the Kawhi situation maybe from a far but you never know if we end up engaging in anything.

Why aren’t they engaged from now? Could always just give it a try. Popovich might actually like a lot of these young bulls players,never know

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I like this, team desperately needs defense. He can help. Plus he can meet up with his bro Jerian lol.

[MrFortune3]

So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?

Probably the 2017 Raptors.