Patrick Williams is having his worst year

[Indomitable]

I honestly don't even think he'd dominate in the G League, I think he'd average about 15 and 6.

He'd destroy peoples faces

Maybe he should take up boxing then.

Guru are you related because Pat is trash?
Because he has proven who he is.

Patrick Williams is low IQ and energy. Anytime he does something right. I believe it is even he cannot screwup every play.

He is also 5 years into it. The likely hood he will improve is a joke. He has had plenty of opportunities to be more. Instead Pat looks like Tarzan and plays like Jane.

[dougthonus]

These takes always remind me of people who claim global warming doesn't exist because it happens to be cold today.

If you want to go this direction with analogies, your take is like a cult predicting the sun will explode. It's never happened in the past. There's no logical reason to think it will happen in the future. Yet the cult persists.

I see your point, we just disagree on Pwill. I think he had a fine November and December and that's a rotational forward floor, so we just saw it lat week.

I am probably moreso reacting to the game threads that are very polarizing....which is fun.

We have 4.5 years of data which is basically the same and has shown no improvement, and he's having the worst season of his career presently, even worse than his rookie year.

I think he can theoretically be a rotational forward, but that's definitely not the floor. We have seen him for weeks at a time play at an out of the league kind of level where he is simply abysmal at both ends. His best days are low rung starter, his worst days are unplayable, thus the ceiling would be low rung starter and the floor is does not belong in the league.

[The Explorer]

Patrick Williams is a bottom 13 percent offensive player according to EPM. He shoots 45.6% at the rim (bottom 1%), 31.4% from midrange (bottom 10%), and league average on 3PAs this year while being among a very poor offensive rebounder (bottom 22%).

It's baffling why Donovan thinks of him as an NBA starter. He's had a history of being outplayed at his position by guys like J Green, Craig, Caruso, Ball who are not even forwards. Jalen Smith needs to be the starter.

[ChettheJet]

He's another example of why the Bulls are treading water below .500. There was a point vs the Clippers where the Bulls had 33 points and a nice lead, after he made his second 3 AA said, Patrick is the leading scorer with 6. How many times have they had Vuc get off to 15, 17, 20 first half points and then he gets 4 -6 in the second half? that remains a big problem, not recognizing what's working and just going to it the rest of the game.

[Dez]

Patrick Williams is a bottom 13 percent offensive player according to EPM. He shoots 45.6% at the rim (bottom 1%), 31.4% from midrange (bottom 10%), and league average on 3PAs this year while being among a very poor offensive rebounder (bottom 22%).

It's baffling why Donovan thinks of him as an NBA starter. He's had a history of being outplayed at his position by guys like J Green, Craig, Caruso, Ball who are not even forwards. Jalen Smith needs to be the starter.

I'm impressed that he's only bottom 22% for offensive rebounds, I would have thought bottom 5%.

[dougthonus]

Patrick Williams is a bottom 13 percent offensive player according to EPM. He shoots 45.6% at the rim (bottom 1%), 31.4% from midrange (bottom 10%), and league average on 3PAs this year while being among a very poor offensive rebounder (bottom 22%).

It's baffling why Donovan thinks of him as an NBA starter. He's had a history of being outplayed at his position by guys like J Green, Craig, Caruso, Ball who are not even forwards. Jalen Smith needs to be the starter.

I'm impressed that he's only bottom 22% for offensive rebounds, I would have thought bottom 5%.

Keep in mind this is among starters, not power forwards. The median for his position is probably 60-70th percentile.

[MissileMike]

Patrick Williams is a bottom 13 percent offensive player according to EPM. He shoots 45.6% at the rim (bottom 1%), 31.4% from midrange (bottom 10%), and league average on 3PAs this year while being among a very poor offensive rebounder (bottom 22%).

It's baffling why Donovan thinks of him as an NBA starter. He's had a history of being outplayed at his position by guys like J Green, Craig, Caruso, Ball who are not even forwards. Jalen Smith needs to be the starter.

I'm impressed that he's only bottom 22% for offensive rebounds, I would have thought bottom 5%.

I bet if you removed all guards, you'd get bottom 5%.

[donaldtrump_00]

I don't want to make excuses for Pat but it's hard to believe that the foot injury hasn't affected him. Players don't forget how to dunk at 23 years old. He used to average 2 dunks every 3 games, right now he has 4 dunks in 32 games. I don't think he's mailing it in either. He tries to be aggressive, but he can't make any 2pt shots and will turn the ball over if he forces things because his handles are bad.

He needs to post up 5 times each game. Use his strength and weight. Stop standing in the corner waiting for a open 3pt. Instead cut and crash the offensive boards. This is poor coaching. He doesn't understand on his own how to unlock his game. Just like loul Deng. He wasn't a big athlete or was he that fast. His skill set is similar to p.will. Just Deng wasn't scared shook to step on players toes for shots. He also crashed the boards without having to be told. P will just isn't very active at all. His skill set is slightly higher than dengs. Just he refuses to turn that on switch on.i get tired of seeing him waste his potential. He was a pg in high school. But In the nba he's terrible at it. I just don't get it. He usually shows flashes of brilliance,but not as much this season. Everything points to him having everyone in his face screaming at him to do more, but he's looking at them back like "zach lavine, vuc, coby are better players then he is" that's bad when your the 4th overall pick. He has no heart. I'd trade him first opportunity. He's Tony snell all over again. The Bulls missed on that pick. But he's no lauri markkanen. It's safe to let him go. You can't teach heart.its very sad. And when he is aggressive he plays wild. I hate to say it but throw him in the g league for a month.

[CROBulls]

One year too late. Got paid got lazy and comfortable.

[ChiefILL53]

One year too late. Got paid got lazy and comfortable.

if we're being honest, he was already lazy and comfortable before he got paid lol

[jordanwilliams6]

One year too late. Got paid got lazy and comfortable.

if we're being honest, he was already lazy and comfortable before he got paid lol

Correct. Patrick is almost identical to everything he’s always been with the exception being his two points shots have somehow become worse.

[DASMACKDOWN]

One thing is for sure, he clearly cannot play at this pace.

In years past Pat was meh and non existent for most of the time.

This year he is just plain bad. 37% from the field this year.

[GoBlue72391]

One thing is for sure, he clearly cannot play at this pace.

In years past Pat was meh and non existent for most of the time.

This year he is just plain bad. 37% from the field this year.

I remember right after Pat signed his extension I was justly trashing the contract and you said I'm going to be so mad when he does well. Well, you were right, I am so mad, but not for the reason you thought.

We can't blame the pace for Pat's struggles. He's just not that good, it's that simple. A young and purportedly athletic dude like him who's also a purported great 3-point shooter should be thriving in a fast-paced, up-tempo 3 chucking style of play.

[Ctownbulls]

What happened to accountability? There is no reason he should be getting more than 10 mpg nevertheless start. Why isn't anyone in the local media grilling Donovan about it?

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[DASMACKDOWN]

What happened to accountability? There is no reason he should be getting more than 10 mpg nevertheless start. Why isn't anyone in the local media grilling Donovan about it?

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I dont think no one in the media has even talked to Pat other than the brief time he was out for his foot.

[Indomitable]

What happened to accountability? There is no reason he should be getting more than 10 mpg nevertheless start. Why isn't anyone in the local media grilling Donovan about it?

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I dont think no one in the media has even talked to Pat other than the brief time he was out for his foot.

He is shooting 36% from 2.
He is the worst starter in the League.

Still the media will not comment on his play.

[2weekswithpay]

Read on Twitter

I hope he figures it out.

[greenwing]

He needs to come off the bench. Also, he’s a tweener and they should try him at the 3 which is where he supposedly wants to play, anyway. He has only ever put up good numbers when he’s the focal point of the offense and with the current starters he will always be the fourth or fifth scoring option.

Granted, I’ve been saying for awhile that I do not like his game and don’t think he’s a good fit for the roster. I would not have extended him. He might succeed elsewhere in a different system but Chicago is not that place unless utilized differently.

The Bulls should throw Buzelis into the starting role to develop him since he’s a better fit with those guys, anyway. And let Pat try to become a successful sixth man. Putting him in at the starting four position is tanking the team (unless that’s the plan, I guess).

[Hangtime84]

Stealth tank

[GoBlue72391]

He needs to come off the bench. Also, he’s a tweener and they should try him at the 3 which is where he supposedly wants to play, anyway. He has only ever put up good numbers when he’s the focal point of the offense and with the current starters he will always be the fourth or fifth scoring option.

Granted, I’ve been saying for awhile that I do not like his game and don’t think he’s a good fit for the roster. I would not have extended him. He might succeed elsewhere in a different system but Chicago is not that place unless utilized differently.

The Bulls should throw Buzelis into the starting role to develop him since he’s a better fit with those guys, anyway. And let Pat try to become a successful sixth man. Putting him in at the starting four position is tanking the team (unless that’s the plan, I guess).

For the life of me I'll never understand the "he's a 3, not a 4" line of thinking. There will be no difference whether he's labeled a PF or SF. He's not going to magically be able to dribble or finish at the rim because his label changes or suddenly become more athletic. He's still going to be on the wings spotting up. Nothing would change, there really aren't any positions nowadays other than maybe PG and big, everyone else is a wing.