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2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1401 » by Andi Obst » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:17 pm

TheSuzerain wrote:Gallinari is/was an elite shooter. Meanwhile Deni hits free throws at about a 60% clip.

Yeah, Deni with Gallo's ability to shoot is a guaranteed first pick in this draft. The Gallo comp doesn't work. I believe in Deni's shot, but he has a long way to go.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1402 » by MrSparkle » Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:36 pm

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TheSuzerain wrote:Gallinari is/was an elite shooter. Meanwhile Deni hits free throws at about a 60% clip.

Yeah, Deni with Gallo's ability to shoot is a guaranteed first pick in this draft. The Gallo comp doesn't work. I believe in Deni's shot, but he has a long way to go.


That FT% is a red flag, but he would be an ideal pick to pan out for this roster... a playmaking SF. Could run small with Otto, pass to Coby, alley-oop to Zach and just elevate the passing game.

I too have a hard time seeing a 60% FT shooter become an elite NBA 3P shooter. The line is even further than Europe, and the defense is faster and more athletic. I’m low on him but it’d be interesting if AK drafted him. There’d have to be the belief they can make him a shooter.

Btw, Gallo is the type of guy I wouldn’t mind signing in FA. Might be cheaper to lock him up with the (Temporarily) shrinking cap, and at his height and skill, he’s not gonna stop being a shooting threat. In fact he seems to be just like Korver and Dunleavy, who had better careers in their 30s then in their primes. He’s definitely got more mobility than those two. I actually wanted GarPax to target him back when we had Jimmy and his trade value was lower, but I guess Rondo, Wade and RoLo were the missing pieces for run-n-gun Hoiball. :noway:

He rejected the ‘Iggy’ offer (30m/2y I guess), which seemed like a lowball extension offer from Riley. I’d easily offer 80/4 to Gallo and see if he signs. Would have to figure out a S&T, but would consider sending Felicio, Thad and their choice of Wendell or Gafford.... we’d be in a good place if this was the top-7 rotation:

Coby Sato
Zach
Otto Deni?
Gallo Lauri
Wendell or Gafford

With the 2021 options (Otto, Lauri), there’d be room to offer a max while retaining the rest of a good complimentary roster.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1403 » by RastaBull » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:09 pm

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Deni and Luka are nothing alike. They're not even similar. Luka has a jump shot and super court vision. Deni doesn't have either of those.


Based on my reading of what most scouting reports say, Deni has above average court vision and is a great passer of the ball. His jumper is his crutch. He's 19, plenty of time to develop his jumper. However, as I wrote in an earlier post, I'm not as worried about him not developing his jumper because he impacts the game in so many other ways.

The biggest question mark to me on Deni is his defense. I have no idea what he's like defensively and haven't seen much in scouting reports on that side of the ball. The little out there says he could be capable, but needs work.


I cover his defense in my Deni breakdown.



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Im so sold on him now. If we are stuck at 7 or below, and he is still there, this is no doubt my guy. If we get #4 I'd say this is my guy. I'd leave room for argument amongst the top 3, Wiseman especially (but I still like him loads!)

This is going to be one of the most creative facilitators in the league in a few years. He's also much more athletic than I was thinking. Quick feet, great size, good lateral movement and his hops are nothing to frown about. I might put money down right now that he wins ROY. (someone can copy/save this)

I'd hope we could get a gritty vet SF ... ala Tony Allen. Like someone toward end of long career but just LOVES basketball because they LOVE defense. Deni looks like he has the grit in some of his highlights and the athleticism that he saw and was around that kind of great defensive stopper in practice he'd jump to another level or two with his own defense.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1404 » by JohnnyTapwater » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:12 pm

CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped on my YouTube. 10 minute Kira Lewis Jr prospect breakdown. Kira isn’t an ideal fit in our backcourt but he’s super talented. I have him around 7th or 8th on my draft board.



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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1405 » by RastaBull » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:29 pm

Any chance Tre Jones drops to us midway through second round? He would be a nice back-up PG project.

He and Coby obviously went at each other a couple times.

He's possibly the top defensive point guard in draft and he is exceptional at leading transition offense and over all creating for teammates. Seems like a SWEET prospect for this team. We've got big time shooters in White and Lavine out of back court (and with Lauri and Porter for 1 more year). Tre would cover perfectly the type of two-way guy we need, defense and facilitator.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1406 » by CoreyVillains » Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:42 am

JohnnyTapwater wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped on my YouTube. 10 minute Kira Lewis Jr prospect breakdown. Kira isn’t an ideal fit in our backcourt but he’s super talented. I have him around 7th or 8th on my draft board.



I love Kira.


That's damn near De'Aron Fox basketball twin.


I love him too. Not quite the defender that Fox is, but his jumper is further along! I have no idea why he isn’t getting more hype this year.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1407 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:27 am

Tre Jones stinks.

Give me Markus Howard in the 2nd round instead.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1408 » by MGB8 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 5:33 am

JohnnyTapwater wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped on my YouTube. 10 minute Kira Lewis Jr prospect breakdown. Kira isn’t an ideal fit in our backcourt but he’s super talented. I have him around 7th or 8th on my draft board.



I love Kira.


That's damn near De'Aron Fox basketball twin.


Looks very similar to Coby White, maybe with a little better handle and a little shiftier, but not as strong or disciplined (in college)?
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1409 » by CoreyVillains » Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:30 pm

MGB8 wrote:
JohnnyTapwater wrote:
CoreyVillains wrote:Just dropped on my YouTube. 10 minute Kira Lewis Jr prospect breakdown. Kira isn’t an ideal fit in our backcourt but he’s super talented. I have him around 7th or 8th on my draft board.



I love Kira.


That's damn near De'Aron Fox basketball twin.


Looks very similar to Coby White, maybe with a little better handle and a little shiftier, but not as strong or disciplined (in college)?


I think that’s a pretty accurate comp and description. I do think he’s a pretty similar decision maker to Coby and he probably displayed slightly better playmaking skills. The extra strength Coby had made him a little better at preventing guys from getting to the hoop, Coby is probably a better team defender as well. But Kira is really similar in how he can beat guys to spots laterally and I wouldn’t be shocked if he measureS our longer than Coby.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1410 » by Jvaughn » Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:25 pm

Can anyone more familiar with Daniel Oturu, give me the breakdown? I don't like him for us, but judging by his stats, he should be ranked higher imo.
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Post#1411 » by Rose2Boozer » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:22 am

Trendon Watford is another interesting prospect. I think he could've really blossomed in his sophomore year, but he chose to declare.

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1412 » by sco » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:56 am

Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1413 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 18, 2020 1:38 pm

sco wrote:Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.


I definitely want to know how the workout process is going to play out. There definitely could be surprises in that 2nd round.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1414 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:39 pm

sco wrote:Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.


I like this line of theory. I think we will see the Bulls make a lot of moves on draft night. I feel they will look to load up on draft picks and grab players they love. Similar to how Denver and Philly tend to do.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1415 » by Jvaughn » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:41 pm

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sco wrote:Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.


I like this line of theory. I think we will see the Bulls make a lot of moves on draft night. I feel they will look to load up on draft picks and grab players they love. Similar to how Denver and Philly tend to do.


That will be a real relief after dealing with the previous administration that was against buying picks. Still can't believe we actually sold one during a rebuild. Smh
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Post#1416 » by pipfan » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:55 pm

This is a draft where the best player could easily be at #10 or #20. I would love to get multiple picks, or even move back and add a future pick
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1417 » by Andi Obst » Thu Jun 18, 2020 7:26 pm

sco wrote:Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.


Honestly, I don't think this is true. The college season wasn't even that much shorter than usual. Certainly sucks for the guys who could've boosted their stock in the tournament, but overall I don't think a complete season would've made much of a difference.

Which, by the way, doesn't mean I'm against acquiring more picks or trading down in general.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1418 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:19 pm

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sco wrote:Given all of the disruption to the NCAA season and draft process, I wonder if the Bulls should try to find a way to get a second (late) 1st rounder. There is probably a better than usual chance to find a late gem this season.


I like this line of theory. I think we will see the Bulls make a lot of moves on draft night. I feel they will look to load up on draft picks and grab players they love. Similar to how Denver and Philly tend to do.


That will be a real relief after dealing with the previous administration that was against buying picks. Still can't believe we actually sold one during a rebuild. Smh


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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably) 

Post#1419 » by rtblues » Fri Jun 19, 2020 12:22 pm

I'm interested in Saddiq Bey, yeah even at #7.

This is a tricky draft without better looks at prospects, no tournament, and small sample sizes on most players.
I also think some of the names I am seeing the TOP 10 don't belong and will not become successful rotation players.
There won't be any real "star", who will impact the team and games whn the Bulls pick at 7, so if their ever was a year to be a little creative and maybe "gamble" it is this year. Although I really don't think Bey is actually a gamble.

Lots of things about his game translate to the pro game. Is he a perfect player, of course not. However I can see him see this player having a long and productive career, even if it is a 6th man role. How long have they been looking for a Wing player, that 3+D guy? And it sure ain't Hutchison. I would take a chance on this player at #7 this year.

With the new management in place he will have a better player development situation than he would have if he was going into it with last years management/coaching. Yeah, I am assuming Gym Boylen will be outta here, right.

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