Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

[patryk7754]

I think the realistic way the OL moves play out is we add two starters at OG via free agency and the draft, sign a vet OT like Dan Skipper to compete with Jones at LT, and have Bates be our center. Maybe we add a new backup center as well, just to deal with bates' injury issues. And fill out the depth with a combo of FA/draft picks. But I think the most realistic moves would look something like.....

Trey Smith
Dan Skipper
Backup center
Tyler Booker

LT: Skipper/Jones
LG: Booker/Pryor
C: Bates/FA
RG:Smith
RT: Wright

[Dresden]

^^^Hopefully George feels massive regret for being unable to figure this out years ago. Bare minimum regret at wasting Caleb’s first season on his team retaining Eberflus. He can feel new validation today as long as he feels infinite regret of the past right next to the new validation. He won’t backslide if he remembers the regret. That’s how alcoholics stay sober. They play the whole tape in their heads. The regrets and fallout is never forgotten. Otherwise relapse happens. It would be great if Kevin Warren was George’s sponsor forever.

It’s hard to forget the “sell the team” chants.

I doubt George is feeling much regret at all. For one thing, this "new direction" hasn't won anything yet. For another, I'm sure he felt like each time they got a new GM, the team was headed in a new, and better direction. And then you have to wait 3-5 years to see if this new guy has it or not. Sometimes your picks just don't work out, for one reason or another.

Now they're trying another "new direction", bringing in Warren letting him play a big role in the way the org. runs. But the jury is still out on whether this way will work any better than previous efforts.

We also shouldn't overlook the role Ryan Poles has played in all of this. And George did pick Poles. From what they said prior to hiring Johnson , Poles was going to take the lead on the search. We don't know much about how much Poles did, and how much Warren did, in the way they presented themselves and the Bears to Johnson's team, but apparently it was quite effective. Poles deserves at least some of the credit for that- maybe the lion's share of it.

[molepharmer]

I didn't realize Marshall's DE was rated to so high. I guess he's considered a 1st round prospect. I just assumed that his school would knock him down a bit. He'd be 1st defensive player out of Marshall to go in round one. 4th player overall.

Looks like his journey can be very similar to Kahlil Mack's. Was elite in college but there was concern about his ability to play against NFL talent and then he absolutely dominated Ohio st (which might be the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen in a college game) and propelled himself to being a top pick. I don't think Mike Green is going top five but he has crazy stats and great tape against Ohio st. Might be worth taking in the first.

Mike Tomlin took special interest in Green after his reps. They showed Tomlin coaching him and just talking to Green several times. Green being good isn't completely surprising, 17 sacks in 2024.

[patryk7754]

Here's an interesting video about the new stadium. A few things in here, I hadn't heard before. A lot of it seems too good to be true....

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BuildItBig

[patryk7754]

I didn't realize Marshall's DE was rated to so high. I guess he's considered a 1st round prospect. I just assumed that his school would knock him down a bit. He'd be 1st defensive player out of Marshall to go in round one. 4th player overall.

Looks like his journey can be very similar to Kahlil Mack's. Was elite in college but there was concern about his ability to play against NFL talent and then he absolutely dominated Ohio st (which might be the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen in a college game) and propelled himself to being a top pick. I don't think Mike Green is going top five but he has crazy stats and great tape against Ohio st. Might be worth taking in the first.

Mike Tomlin took special interest in Green after his reps. They showed Tomlin coaching him and just talking to Green several times. Green being good isn't completely surprising, 17 sacks in 2024.

I'm not surprised that he was good, just surprised playing at marshall didn't hurt his draft stock.

[fleet]

I didn't realize Marshall's DE was rated to so high. I guess he's considered a 1st round prospect. I just assumed that his school would knock him down a bit. He'd be 1st defensive player out of Marshall to go in round one. 4th player overall.

Looks like his journey can be very similar to Kahlil Mack's. Was elite in college but there was concern about his ability to play against NFL talent and then he absolutely dominated Ohio st (which might be the greatest defensive performance I've ever seen in a college game) and propelled himself to being a top pick. I don't think Mike Green is going top five but he has crazy stats and great tape against Ohio st. Might be worth taking in the first.

From what I understand, he’s probably not Allen’s type of “end” rush piece. Allen likes the thick pocket pushers. And then he’s bringing a creative blitz if they aren’t getting enough pressure. Although that one play yesterday was nice.

[Dresden]

Here's an interesting video about the new stadium. A few things in here, I hadn't heard before. A lot of it seems too good to be true....

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BuildItBig

I remember when Jerry Jones built the Cowboys new stadium for 1B, and that was shocking at the time. Now it's up to close to 5 B. And how long do these things last- 20 years? They just built a new bridge across SF bay to Oakland about 10 years ago, and it cost around 3 B, but should last for 100 years.

[Dresden]

BTW, I was watching some old film from the 60's on You Tube of the Bears. Playing in Wrigley Field. How much the sport has changed in 60 years! I like watching those old clips- the game seemed so much simpler back then, so basic, compared to what it's become. Not sure the changes are all good, but there sure is a lot more money in the game today.

[fleet]

The Bears will likely get more out of Kmet. Yet with an OC that is a TE coach, and an ex Lions head coach that is in tune with the modern TE as more of a weapon, can’t help but wonder how long the Bears go on Kmet. Not that he’s bad. He’s a clear above average TE. But eventually the Bears may go in a different direction.

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[fleet]

Ben Johnson is becoming entertaining with the Saints and Payton stuff. This was who Allen wants though.

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[Dresden]

Hopefully he'll be able to get more out of Zach Pickens and Dexter.

[Michael Jackson]

Here's an interesting video about the new stadium. A few things in here, I hadn't heard before. A lot of it seems too good to be true....

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BuildItBig

I remember when Jerry Jones built the Cowboys new stadium for 1B, and that was shocking at the time. Now it's up to close to 5 B. And how long do these things last- 20 years? They just built a new bridge across SF bay to Oakland about 10 years ago, and it cost around 3 B, but should last for 100 years.

It is hard to fathom that figure.

[molepharmer]

The Bears will likely get more out of Kmet. Yet with an OC that is a TE coach, and an ex Lions head coach that is in tune with the modern TE as more of a weapon, can’t help but wonder how long the Bears go on Kmet. Not that he’s bad. He’s a clear above average TE. But eventually the Bears may go in a different direction.
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Elija Arroyo has looked pretty darn good as well; projected around #114. Fannin around pick #55. Either way, Bears drafting a TE seems pretty far down the list of needs, depending upon who they sign in free agency prior to draft.

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[Dresden]

Here's an interesting video about the new stadium. A few things in here, I hadn't heard before. A lot of it seems too good to be true....

Watch on YouTube

;ab_channel=BuildItBig

I remember when Jerry Jones built the Cowboys new stadium for 1B, and that was shocking at the time. Now it's up to close to 5 B. And how long do these things last- 20 years? They just built a new bridge across SF bay to Oakland about 10 years ago, and it cost around 3 B, but should last for 100 years.

It is hard to fathom that figure.

By comparison, the Sears Tower was built for just over 1B (in today's money).

[Michael Jackson]

I remember when Jerry Jones built the Cowboys new stadium for 1B, and that was shocking at the time. Now it's up to close to 5 B. And how long do these things last- 20 years? They just built a new bridge across SF bay to Oakland about 10 years ago, and it cost around 3 B, but should last for 100 years.

It is hard to fathom that figure.

By comparison, the Sears Tower was built for just over 1B (in today's money).

I get that a lot of this is major major infrastructure work and not really applying to the stadium. That said it being infrastructure work, they may have put a huge cushion on overages, but invariably and espescially in chicago those overages re going to get out of control. I understand the concept is to become world class and a new model for everyone to follow (with the convience) and will make it a true destination, but good lord thats a lot of money.... how much for just one rib? You got change for a hundred?

[nitetrain8603]

It is hard to fathom that figure.

By comparison, the Sears Tower was built for just over 1B (in today's money).

I get that a lot of this is major major infrastructure work and not really applying to the stadium. That said it being infrastructure work, they may have put a huge cushion on overages, but invariably and espescially in chicago those overages re going to get out of control. I understand the concept is to become world class and a new model for everyone to follow (with the convience) and will make it a true destination, but good lord thats a lot of money.... how much for just one rib? You got change for a hundred?

That's the problem at play here. Illinois politics like to get their money. Chicago politics require you to also pay them too. Oh, and FOTP also like to get their back scratched.

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[JohnnyKILLroy]

The Bears will likely get more out of Kmet. Yet with an OC that is a TE coach, and an ex Lions head coach that is in tune with the modern TE as more of a weapon, can’t help but wonder how long the Bears go on Kmet. Not that he’s bad. He’s a clear above average TE. But eventually the Bears may go in a different direction.

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All draft picks in the next 2 years need to be linemen on both sides of the ball.

[fleet]

The Bears will likely get more out of Kmet. Yet with an OC that is a TE coach, and an ex Lions head coach that is in tune with the modern TE as more of a weapon, can’t help but wonder how long the Bears go on Kmet. Not that he’s bad. He’s a clear above average TE. But eventually the Bears may go in a different direction.

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All draft picks in the next 2 years need to be linemen on both sides of the ball.

Need a fast WR3, a RB, and a safety at some point. I would guess Ben wants that RB to be pretty good too. Swift didn’t get used when Ben had him in Detroit. Not a physical runner. While these positions are not as critical in terms of dire need, they will and should be addressed, and we can draft for those positions while we address the lines via free agency and the draft both.

[Dresden]

It sounds like we can get a good RB in rounds 2 or 3. Poles has not been great with some of his later round draft picks- didn't we use a 3rd on Roschon Johnson? They really built him up as something special at the time, but in 2 years now, he hasn't shown much, other than as a short yardage back.

The same with Tyler Scott- hopefully in the new offense he'll find a place. But so far, he hasn't shown anything, and of course Velus Jones, another 3rd rounder, got cut.

That's 3 skill players it looks like we whiffed on.

[molepharmer]

Using spotrac and overthecap, looks like the Bears have about 34 players signed for next year with a salary over $1.5 mil. Anybody getting paid less than that who is signed for next year is pretty much practice squad material. Those signed for next year:

OT - Kiran A, D Wright, B Jones
OG - R Bates
C -
QB - C Williams, T Bagent
RB - Swift, R Johnson, I Wheeler
TE - Kmet, Everett
WR - DJ Moore, Rome O, Tyler S
P/K - Taylor, Santos

DE - Sweat, A Booker, D Walker, D Robinson
DT - Dexter, Pickens, Billings
LB - Edwards, Edmunds, Sewell
CB - Gordon, Stevenson, T Smith, J Johnson
S - Brisker, J Owens, E Hicks, Byard

Free agents that played more than 25% of the snaps -
WR - K Allen
OL - C Shelton, T Jenkins, M Pryor, L Borom
DL - D Taylor, B Cowart, C Williams
LS - S Daley
other notables with less than 25% snaps include - J Blackwell, D Carter, M Lewis, J Martin, J Sanborn

Basically Bears look extremely thin on the O-line. Defense unit stronger then offense but needs higher quality depth all over