NBA Trade Thread

[JohnnyTapwater]

who says no?

Lauri for Jaxon Hayes, 2020 13th and 2020 39th?

or

Lauri for Kevin Knox, 2020 27th and 2020 38th pick?

You realize Kevin Knox is awful right?

People could say the same about Lauri.

I'm still not sure if it's the environment/ coaching or are they just not who we thought they were.

[JohnnyTapwater]

who says no?

Lauri for Jaxon Hayes, 2020 13th and 2020 39th?

or

Lauri for Kevin Knox, 2020 27th and 2020 38th pick?

How about Lauri for MPJ?

Sold if we get that 21st pick too.

[TheSuzerain]

who says no?

Lauri for Jaxon Hayes, 2020 13th and 2020 39th?

or

Lauri for Kevin Knox, 2020 27th and 2020 38th pick?

You realize Kevin Knox is awful right?

People could say the same about Lauri.

I'm still not sure if it's the environment/ coaching or are they just not who we thought they were.

They really can't say the same about Lauri, and I don't even like Lauri that much.

If the NBA was truly the best 400 basketball players in the world, Kevin Knox would not be in the NBA.

[JohnnyTapwater]

You realize Kevin Knox is awful right?

People could say the same about Lauri.

I'm still not sure if it's the environment/ coaching or are they just not who we thought they were.

They really can't say the same about Lauri, and I don't even like Lauri that much.

If the NBA was truly the best 400 basketball players in the world, Kevin Knox would not be in the NBA.

Fair enough. lol...

[ChettheJet]

who says no?

Lauri for Jaxon Hayes, 2020 13th and 2020 39th?

or

Lauri for Kevin Knox, 2020 27th and 2020 38th pick?

The NOP deal for Hayes is better but only if Carter has been shooting 3's since the stoppage of play and has become much better than he was. Otherwise too many centers, no matter how many picks doesn't help being overloaded at that position still having Felicio around.

I'm not going to be down on Knox because he hasn't gotten many minutes or had much production on the Knicks. I don't know who could have success on a team that is a rudderless ship. I would be willing to see if the change of scenery would make a difference. Yes it's a gamble but so is keeping and counting on Markkanen without knowing what his problem has become. Has he been hurt and trying to play, has he run out of ability, developed a don't care attitude. This has been a lost year for him so who decides he's going to be able to improve on where he was at the previous season? All of the same applies to Knox, he was a high pick, did everybody see more than was there or is he just down from playing for a screwed up franchise.

I would rather see if the Knicks would be up for trading Randle, Knox and maybe that 38 pick for Thad Young and Felicio. They would save a year for both on the contract side so they could dive into the 2021 FA pool.

[sco]

who says no?

Lauri for Jaxon Hayes, 2020 13th and 2020 39th?

or

Lauri for Kevin Knox, 2020 27th and 2020 38th pick?

The NOP deal for Hayes is better but only if Carter has been shooting 3's since the stoppage of play and has become much better than he was. Otherwise too many centers, no matter how many picks doesn't help being overloaded at that position still having Felicio around.

I'm not going to be down on Knox because he hasn't gotten many minutes or had much production on the Knicks. I don't know who could have success on a team that is a rudderless ship. I would be willing to see if the change of scenery would make a difference. Yes it's a gamble but so is keeping and counting on Markkanen without knowing what his problem has become. Has he been hurt and trying to play, has he run out of ability, developed a don't care attitude. This has been a lost year for him so who decides he's going to be able to improve on where he was at the previous season? All of the same applies to Knox, he was a high pick, did everybody see more than was there or is he just down from playing for a screwed up franchise.

I would rather see if the Knicks would be up for trading Randle, Knox and maybe that 38 pick for Thad Young and Felicio. They would save a year for both on the contract side so they could dive into the 2021 FA pool.

I'd do the Knicks deal all day (doubt the Knicks would though...maybe if we subbed Sato for Shrek), but then I would then be sure that I traded Lauri too.

[WindyCityBorn]

I think the Bulls hold on to all "core" players for at least half a season under a new head coach, front office and hopefully medical staff. Don't think Carter or Markkanen have enough value to get anything good right now.

[Phu317]

I think the Bulls hold on to all "core" players for at least half a season under a new head coach, front office and hopefully medical staff. Don't think Carter or Markkanen have enough value to get anything good right now.

I would agree with this assessment. With the exception of Lavine, everyone's value is low. However, it is obvious that they are all talented. They should wait to see what the new coach/coaches can do first before trading them.

[sco]

I think the Bulls hold on to all "core" players for at least half a season under a new head coach, front office and hopefully medical staff. Don't think Carter or Markkanen have enough value to get anything good right now.

I would agree with this assessment. With the exception of Lavine, everyone's value is low. However, it is obvious that they are all talented. They should wait to see what the new coach/coaches can do first before trading them.

Good points!

I wonder what trade value Coby has? For example, what if the Knicks got the #1 pick. I wonder if they'd do Coby (because they said they covet a scoring PG) plus Lauri for #1 (Wiseman)? We could draft a PG with our pick.

[WindyCityBorn]

I think the Bulls hold on to all "core" players for at least half a season under a new head coach, front office and hopefully medical staff. Don't think Carter or Markkanen have enough value to get anything good right now.

I would agree with this assessment. With the exception of Lavine, everyone's value is low. However, it is obvious that they are all talented. They should wait to see what the new coach/coaches can do first before trading them.

Good points!

I wonder what trade value Coby has? For example, what if the Knicks got the #1 pick. I wonder if they'd do Coby (because they said they covet a scoring PG) plus Lauri for #1 (Wiseman)? We could draft a PG with our pick.

I can't see ANY team trading #1 for Coby and Lauri. They would take their chances with Ant Man or Wiseman.

[Jiipee84]

How much it would cost to Bulls get Jamal Murray coming to windy-city.
Nuggets won't trade Jokic that's for sure but how Murray if price is right.

Yes getting Jamal Murray is not easy task.
Bulls needs PG and if Bulls can't get Lamelo Ball etc PG in draft then they have to try get PG in trade.

Unfortunately in trade like this Lavine and Satoransky should be involved for sure
but what else Bulls should add to make trade like this and could Nuggets ask Lauri or Coby if Bulls try get Jamal Murray.

[Bulldog23]

I think the second round will have some great development prospects...76ers have two picks early second round. I want to send Thomas Satoransky for Richardson and both picks.

[sco]

I think the second round will have some great development prospects...76ers have two picks early second round. I want to send Thomas Satoransky for Richardson and both picks.

I'd do that in a second, but doubt Philly would.

[MrSparkle]

I would agree with this assessment. With the exception of Lavine, everyone's value is low. However, it is obvious that they are all talented. They should wait to see what the new coach/coaches can do first before trading them.

Good points!

I wonder what trade value Coby has? For example, what if the Knicks got the #1 pick. I wonder if they'd do Coby (because they said they covet a scoring PG) plus Lauri for #1 (Wiseman)? We could draft a PG with our pick.

I can't see ANY team trading #1 for Coby and Lauri. They would take their chances with Ant Man or Wiseman.

Yeah, in the end you know what you've got in Lauri - an inconsistent player highly dependent on system with some chronic back or hip (?) issues, and a risky contract extension coming up in 1 year. Unike Ayton, Wisemen is less offensive skill and more athletic explosiveness, which ironically is preferred for a center prospect. He might bust, but if mentored right, he has the potential to be one of the best bigs.

And while Edwards' style of game turns me off (he 100% seems like a guy who brings the ball up court and iso's every time he can), he is a pretty sound prospect, perhaps more comparable to Zach than Coby. The plus side is he will probably be a much better defender and rebounder than Zach. But Zach is faster, more athletic and a better shooter.

Coby is very interesting though. I still regret we got 1 week of seeing him at starting PG. Really big mistake on Pax-Boylen's part IMO, even if COVID was unforeseen. I thought he looked very solid at that position, whereas he looked terrible 80% of the time as an off-ball microwave chucker, outplayed by bigger players. In theory I prefer Coby's ability to get hot from the arc and foot-speed.

I think you just roll with the pick we land, consider a small trade-up or down. Assume we're getting 8 or 9. It'll be a good chance to move than Sato contract, who has absolutely no role whatsoever on next year's team. Coby/Zach are a competent guard rotation; I like Arci and Shaq as penny-reserves; I prefer Mokoka as a long-shot wing prospect. If we add any talent, I wouldn't mind getting a veteran PG who actually can run point, not an off-ball stiff like Sato.

Sato is just a bad fit. He needs to go to a team with a point-wing. Houston, Dallas, LAL, LAC, Philly. But depending how this lotto plays out, I'd look to move Sato with the pick (either up or down, depending who needs what and what we get back) unless the perfect player is available at our slot.

[NYG]

Otto Porter for Delon Wright, Justin Jackson and Dwight Powell / Powell, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan and 11?

Essentially OPJ, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan, Jackson, Wright and 11?

[sco]

Otto Porter for Delon Wright, Justin Jackson and Dwight Powell / Powell, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan and 11?

Essentially OPJ, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan, Jackson, Wright and 11?

I'm not sure teams are ascribing much value to Otto unless/until he shows a bit more in terms of his durability.

[WindyCityBorn]

Otto Porter for Delon Wright, Justin Jackson and Dwight Powell / Powell, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan and 11?

Essentially OPJ, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan, Jackson, Wright and 11?

Why exactly would we want Derozan? An aging SG that can't shoot worth a damn from 3. The best thing about Porter is that he is an expiring contract after he surely opts in this off-season. Derozan has an extra year on his deal if he opts in and we sure as Hell would not want re-sign him long term if he doesn't. Yuck.

[Darren]

Otto Porter for Delon Wright, Justin Jackson and Dwight Powell / Powell, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan and 11?

Essentially OPJ, Felicio and 7 for DeRozan, Jackson, Wright and 11?

I'm not sure teams are ascribing much value to Otto unless/until he shows a bit more in terms of his durability.

I think the Mavs does it due to the 2021 Giannis trace. That's significant cap rooms for the Mavs to re-sign Hardaway. That's good reason to make the case.

[Ayman78]

How about Coby White, this year's number one pick the team's 2023 1st round pick and 2021, 2022 2nd round picks along with Otto Porter for Ben Simmons?

[sco]

How about Coby White, this year's number one pick the team's 2023 1st round pick and 2021, 2022 2nd round picks along with Otto Porter for Ben Simmons?

Doubt Philly does that, they want to win now. It is a full price though.