2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

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[Chi town]

Deni looking like Luka in those clips. If he can be your primary ball handler with his size and play similar to Luka as a facilitator... He’d be just what the doctor ordered. Can get his own shot and create for others.

[JohnnyTapwater]

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I love when young players show improvement.

It's not reason he can't keep improving where numbers have shown he struggles.

[drosereturn]

Deni looking like Luka in those clips. If he can be your primary ball handler with his size and play similar to Luka as a facilitator... He’d be just what the doctor ordered. Can get his own shot and create for others.

I dont think he can be a primary ball handler but he is def Lukas breed, homeless mans Luka so to speak.
Like I am not super impressed with his potential or anything but hes the type of player Bulls desperately need and he would be a better ball handler than Lavine, White combined I can tell. If he can develop as primary ball handler number 1 option great, but im expecting like a solid secondary ball handler like Sato with at least 3rd scoring option.

[GimmeDat]

I think there's a threat of underappreciated just how insanely good Doncic is on the ball and jumping the gun with comparisons when we see similar wings with handling and passing ability.

I love that Deni's got feel as a passer and a ball handler, but at the NBA level he's a secondary creator guy imo, not someone you can run everything through.

[Chi town]

I think there's a threat of underappreciated just how insanely good Doncic is on the ball and jumping the gun with comparisons when we see similar wings with handling and passing ability.

I love that Deni's got feel as a passer and a ball handler, but at the NBA level he's a secondary creator guy imo, not someone you can run everything through.

As of right now you’re right. Who knows what he becomes. His work ethic is supposed to be top notch and the Bulls seem to be going all in on player development. I do think Deni will be more of a 4 then a 3 when it’s all said and done.

As for being like Luka. I’m not saying MVP Luka but more like rookie Luka specifically in the PnR.

[Jcool0]

I think there's a threat of underappreciated just how insanely good Doncic is on the ball and jumping the gun with comparisons when we see similar wings with handling and passing ability.

I love that Deni's got feel as a passer and a ball handler, but at the NBA level he's a secondary creator guy imo, not someone you can run everything through.

Keep in mind Doncic went #3. So while a lot were high on him, he was not the lock he looks like now. The generational talent was supposed to be Deandre Ayton. Who has been good not great for Phoenix.

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[Dresden]

The big questions about Luka were his defense and his quickness/athleticism. I guess the same applies to Deni- is he quick enough for the nba? Is he going to get eaten alive on defense?

[Chi town]

The big questions about Luka were his defense and his quickness/athleticism. I guess the same applies to Deni- is he quick enough for the nba? Is he going to get eaten alive on defense?

Deni is way ahead of Luka on D. Deni is a good defender.

If Deni can use his body as a ball handler like Luka in PnR and eventually develop that step back then he will be an all star.

[GimmeDat]

I think there's a threat of underappreciated just how insanely good Doncic is on the ball and jumping the gun with comparisons when we see similar wings with handling and passing ability.

I love that Deni's got feel as a passer and a ball handler, but at the NBA level he's a secondary creator guy imo, not someone you can run everything through.

Keep in mind Doncic went #3. So while a lot were high on him, he was not the lock he looks like now. The generational talent was supposed to be Deandre Ayton. Who has been good not great for Phoenix.

I think you may have been listening to the wrong people on that one. A lot of the mainstream outlets were skeptical on him, but those that watched him and knew there stuff were all saying Doncic was the generational talent, not Ayton. Draft twitter was almost unanimous on this.

Ayton was an excellent prospect in his own right but it essentially comes down to archetype, and big men will barely ever be as valuable as wings you can run your offense through.

[Jcool0]

I think there's a threat of underappreciated just how insanely good Doncic is on the ball and jumping the gun with comparisons when we see similar wings with handling and passing ability.

I love that Deni's got feel as a passer and a ball handler, but at the NBA level he's a secondary creator guy imo, not someone you can run everything through.

Keep in mind Doncic went #3. So while a lot were high on him, he was not the lock he looks like now. The generational talent was supposed to be Deandre Ayton. Who has been good not great for Phoenix.

I think you may have been listening to the wrong people on that one. A lot of the mainstream outlets were skeptical on him, but those that watched him and knew there stuff were all saying Doncic was the generational talent, not Ayton. Draft twitter was almost unanimous on this.

Ayton was an excellent prospect in his own right but it essentially comes down to archetype, and big men will barely ever be as valuable as wings you can run your offense through.

I never gave my opinion. I only said he went #3. Most draft guys had him going anywhere from 3-6 in the daft (a small few even had Chicago talking him at 7). A small group had him going #1 but that seemed more like people just looking to be different. Ayton and Bagley seemed locked into 1 & 2, which is how it played out.

[GimmeDat]

Keep in mind Doncic went #3. So while a lot were high on him, he was not the lock he looks like now. The generational talent was supposed to be Deandre Ayton. Who has been good not great for Phoenix.

I think you may have been listening to the wrong people on that one. A lot of the mainstream outlets were skeptical on him, but those that watched him and knew there stuff were all saying Doncic was the generational talent, not Ayton. Draft twitter was almost unanimous on this.

Ayton was an excellent prospect in his own right but it essentially comes down to archetype, and big men will barely ever be as valuable as wings you can run your offense through.

I never gave my opinion. I only said he went #3. Most draft guys had him going anywhere from 3-6 in the daft (a small few even had Chicago talking him at 7). A small group had him going #1 but that seemed more like people just looking to be different. Ayton and Bagley seemed locked into 1 & 2, which is how it played out.

Wasn't talking about your opinion. As I said, maybe we were looking at different places. I think most big sites and mainstream pundits were not as high on Doncic. The people I follow on Twitter all had Doncic #1.

I was on the fence, I remember having Doncic/Ayton clear 1/2 and I would flip between who I preferred, but I never had either lower than that I believe.

[Andi Obst]

Assuming we pick at 7 again, drafting Killian Hayes would be my absolute dream scenario. ESPN has him ranked 9th, which gives me a little hope (I have him second), but I should probably not get my hopes up. I think he would be someone AK likes, too.

If not, then I'd probably go Vassell right now. But since there are still almost 4 months until the draft actually happens, I expect that I have talked myself into Poku enough to be my guy at 7 eventually. Yeah it's risky, but behind Ball, Hayes and maybe Edwards, I'm willing to take risks in this draft.

[PaKii94]

Assuming we pick at 7 again, drafting Killian Hayes would be my absolute dream scenario. ESPN has him ranked 9th, which gives me a little hope (I have him second), but I should probably not get my hopes up. I think he would be someone AK likes, too.

If not, then I'd probably go Vassell right now. But since there are still almost 4 months until the draft actually happens, I expect that I have talked myself into Poku enough to be my guy at 7 eventually. Yeah it's risky, but behind Ball, Hayes and maybe Edwards, I'm willing to take risks in this draft.

What do you see in hayes

[Andi Obst]

Assuming we pick at 7 again, drafting Killian Hayes would be my absolute dream scenario. ESPN has him ranked 9th, which gives me a little hope (I have him second), but I should probably not get my hopes up. I think he would be someone AK likes, too.

If not, then I'd probably go Vassell right now. But since there are still almost 4 months until the draft actually happens, I expect that I have talked myself into Poku enough to be my guy at 7 eventually. Yeah it's risky, but behind Ball, Hayes and maybe Edwards, I'm willing to take risks in this draft.

What do you see in hayes

A tall, crafty PG with great playmaking instincts (good vision, good eye for mismatches, very patient) and a lot of scoring potential. Has really improved his ability to create space for his shots last season. Came into a pro league and just produced right away.

[Jvaughn]

Assuming we pick at 7 again, drafting Killian Hayes would be my absolute dream scenario. ESPN has him ranked 9th, which gives me a little hope (I have him second), but I should probably not get my hopes up. I think he would be someone AK likes, too.

If not, then I'd probably go Vassell right now. But since there are still almost 4 months until the draft actually happens, I expect that I have talked myself into Poku enough to be my guy at 7 eventually. Yeah it's risky, but behind Ball, Hayes and maybe Edwards, I'm willing to take risks in this draft.

What do you see in hayes

I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I think he's arguably the best prospect in this draft. Great size and vision. Gets everyone involved in the offense, but can get his own when needed. He hasn't shot the ball great so far, but he's made huge strides, and his FT% leads me to believe he has knockdown potential. If he can keep improving there and work on his offhand, I think he's got star potential.

[Andi Obst]

Assuming we pick at 7 again, drafting Killian Hayes would be my absolute dream scenario. ESPN has him ranked 9th, which gives me a little hope (I have him second), but I should probably not get my hopes up. I think he would be someone AK likes, too.

If not, then I'd probably go Vassell right now. But since there are still almost 4 months until the draft actually happens, I expect that I have talked myself into Poku enough to be my guy at 7 eventually. Yeah it's risky, but behind Ball, Hayes and maybe Edwards, I'm willing to take risks in this draft.

What do you see in hayes

I can't speak for anyone else, but personally I think he's arguably the best prospect in this draft. Great size and vision. Gets everyone involved in the offense, but can get his own when needed. He hasn't shot the ball great so far, but he's made huge strides, and his FT% leads me to believe he has knockdown potential. If he can keep improving there and work on his offhand, I think he's got star potential.

Completely agree. In the Eurocup, Hayes shot 90% from the line and 39% from 3. I'm buying his shot.

[CoreyVillains]

I’m significantly more concerned about Hayes lack of athleticism and poor finishing than I am his shooting. He is one of the guys I’m hoping for at 7 if that’s where we land though.