Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

Susan · Post #1421 » by **Susan** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 10:57 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:This guy has broken Palehose news.

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Jeffster81 · Post #1422 » by **Jeffster81** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 11:03 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:This guy has broken Palehose news.

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I refused to get hopeful. You can't make me. Teases like that are useless to me.

Post #1423 » by **fleet** » Fri Mar 5, 2021 11:43 pm

What the Bears would need to give up to get Seattle to swallow a 40 million cap hit is unimaginable. I shudder to think.

Susan · Post #1424 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 2:51 pm

fleet wrote:What the Bears would need to give up to get Seattle to swallow a 40 million cap hit is unimaginable. I shudder to think.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm

It don't matter. He's a HOF QB in his prime that has been pretty much a lock to guide his team to 10+ wins/season for nearly a decade now.

He's out there, he's got a no trade clause but mentioned your franchise as one of the four spots he'd like to get traded to - you keep on adding until Seattle can't say no and immediately become contenders for the next decade or so.

Ryan Pace's aggressiveness is a cute meme but I'd much rather be Danny Ainge with KG and a ring than John Paxson with his "young core" and a bunch of playoff bounces.

Franchise QBs like Russ don't ever come on the market for a reason.

CaPiTanAK · Post #1425 » by **CaPiTanAK** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:06 pm

Russell Wilson can play franchise QB for the next 9-10 years. Get the man here and start plugging in playmakers around Wilson to make it work. Wilson, like Brady, will elevate the playmakers and make everyone looks good. Get it done or go home.

Susan · Post #1426 » by **Susan** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 9:44 pm

Three first rounders + Monty + J Johnson and call it a night.

Seattle wants to run the ball? Monty is a bellcow back. You get a 21 year old, starting level CB who's gunna cost ya $900k next year.

We roll with Russ and I trust Pace to find a decent RB in the later rounds and a CB off of the scrap heap.

transplant · Post #1427 » by **transplant** » Sat Mar 6, 2021 10:10 pm

Russell Wilson has not asked, much less demanded a trade. The "If they trade me..." thing is bizarre, but kinda meaningless.

The Seahawks have made the playoffs for something like 8 of the 9 years they've had Wilson. The Seahawks HC is about to turn 70.
Unless I see a trade proposal that provides the Seahawks with a playoff-caliber QB, I'm not buying any of this.

dice · Post #1428 » by **dice** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 1:19 am

Susan wrote:
fleet wrote:What the Bears would need to give up to get Seattle to swallow a 40 million cap hit is unimaginable. I shudder to think.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm

It don't matter. He's a HOF QB in his prime that has been pretty much a lock to guide his team to 10+ wins/season for nearly a decade now.

with a decent roster around him, yes. but can the bears maintain a decent roster if they have to give away the farm for wilson?

He's out there, he's got a no trade clause but mentioned your franchise as one of the four spots he'd like to get traded to - you keep on adding until Seattle can't say no and immediately become contenders for the next decade or so.

sounds like your khalil mack theory. pace was lucky that planets aligned and he got a year's worth of juice out of that move

Franchise QBs like Russ don't ever come on the market for a reason.

they sure would if your "keep adding on until they can't say no" was a legitimate philosophy. and by the way, "how often does this caliber of player get shopped" was the same argument many made to justify the mack trade

and as others have said, i find it hard to believe that seattle is anywhere close to dealing russell wilson. he certainly can't be considered "on the market" in the sense that the seahawks presumably aren't actively shopping him like the raiders were with mack. hell, the texans probably won't even trade a similar-caliber player who it trying his damnedest to force his way out of there

Post #1429 » by **fleet** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:13 am

Susan wrote:
fleet wrote:What the Bears would need to give up to get Seattle to swallow a 40 million cap hit is unimaginable. I shudder to think.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm

It don't matter. He's a HOF QB in his prime that has been pretty much a lock to guide his team to 10+ wins/season for nearly a decade now.

He's out there, he's got a no trade clause but mentioned your franchise as one of the four spots he'd like to get traded to - you keep on adding until Seattle can't say no and immediately become contenders for the next decade or so.

Ryan Pace's aggressiveness is a cute meme but I'd much rather be Danny Ainge with KG and a ring than John Paxson with his "young core" and a bunch of playoff bounces.

Franchise QBs like Russ don't ever come on the market for a reason.

At least the Texan is in his mid 20s. The Seahawk is in his 30s, and is gonna lose some mobility very soon. His calling card is mobility. He won't ever be bad before he retires, he'll be good, but he won't be worth a king's ransom at his age and playing window.

Anyway, This all seems very unlikely, although if Pace surrenders all first and second rounders for infinity, plus our few youngsters, I suppose it can get done if we also drop veteran salary. The Bears can have Russell Wilson and maybe they can find some retired players and scrubs running around to surround him. Like a Stallone Bruce Willis Jesse Ventura old dog squad of all stars reunuion. Gronk is taken, though maybe we can get Brandon Marshall to come back somehow, he seems exited.

Jeffster81 · Post #1430 » by **Jeffster81** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 4:03 am

Wilson is worth the gamble and I do believe Pace will trade for Wilson.

dice · Post #1431 » by **dice** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 6:12 am

Jeffster81 wrote:Wilson is worth the gamble and I do believe Pace will trade for Wilson.

i assume that GMs have to get permission from ownership to make a trade. so what happens when ryan pace says "uh, hey, i wanna trade 6 first rounders, akiem hicks, roquan smith and jaylon johnson for russell wilson"?

Susan · Post #1432 » by **Susan** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 2:10 pm

dice wrote:
Jeffster81 wrote:Wilson is worth the gamble and I do believe Pace will trade for Wilson.

i assume that GMs have to get permission from ownership to make a trade. so what happens when ryan pace says "uh, hey, i wanna trade 6 first rounders, akiem hicks, roquan smith and jaylon johnson for russell wilson"?

Can't trade more than 3 first rounders.

Akiem Hicks is 31, Ro is good but he's a ILB (one of the most replaceable spots in the NFL) and Jaylon is decent.

Russ is a HOF QB. I'd do it and laugh. Elite QBs win. He's elite beyond measure. The NFC West has been pretty freaking good during his run (LA and SF both having SB level teams 3x in that time period) and he still has one of the best winning % for a QB of all time.

hurrikayne2001 · Post #1433 » by **hurrikayne2001** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 3:48 pm

I guess I have to be the Debbie Downer here. The Bears aren't getting Rus or Dshaw. Based on our history of getting QB's we'll end up with Sam Darnold.

VolumePoster · Post #1434 » by **VolumePoster** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 6:24 pm

hurrikayne2001 wrote:I guess I have to be the Debbie Downer here. The Bears aren't getting Rus or Dshaw. Based on our history of getting QB's we'll end up with Sam Darnold.

Darnold, ugh. The only thing worse than a bad quarterback is giving up resources for a bad quarterback. I would rather Mitch vs Alex Smith than picks for Sam Darnold.

nomorezorro · Post #1435 » by **nomorezorro** » Sun Mar 7, 2021 7:40 pm

i'm assuming we're going into the season with alex smith as qb

russ forcing a trade to chicago (and seattle obliging) would be a contender for the most insane event to happen in nfl history, right