NBA Trade Thread # 3

PrimzyBulls81 · Post #1421 » by **PrimzyBulls81** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:46 am

Why are Lakers even trading Harrell?? Seems stupid as f... to me! He is a warrior.. Maybe got into beef with LBJ? :roll:

Andi Obst · Post #1422 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:00 am

Harrell is a nice guy to have in the regular season, but he’s very close to unplayable in the postseason when teams just relentlessly attack terrible defenders like him. If they are confident they’re getting Drummond (who I don’t like in the postseason either, really, but oh well), trading Harrell now might make sense. They don’t really have much else to trade.

Also kind of funny that a board which is so upset with WCJ‘s size would want to replace him with a smaller guy.

bearadonisdna · Post #1423 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:10 am

oladipo for thad and sato.
sure houston doesnt do it but its an ideal trade.
for bulls its a salary dump for a rental.

bearadonisdna · Post #1424 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:27 am

finally thought of a ball deal.
thad, sato, 1st for ball and reddick and any draft sweetner they can afford.

the 1st round pick pays it value out by basically drafting lonzo with his guaranteed services via RFA.

And ball is arguably better than and possibly better than any player we would draft in a non tank year.
not married to this plan but its an idea and the 1st time adding lonzo had some value to me.

mostly im trying move off satos and thads 24 mil combined salary. that can get you a zach or a julius randle in FA. Bye guys, they are replacement level players, thad thanks for 20 PER but it is as a big. If he played SF for us he would be worth his contract worth his PER in millions provided a large sample size of minutes.

ditch these dudes now, value is high.

bearadonisdna · Post #1425 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:52 am

Sato for Elfrid Payton.

Ccwatercraft · Post #1426 » by **Ccwatercraft** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:04 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
jvalin wrote:Celtics fan here. Would you guys do this trade?

No. Want no part of Kemba Walker and his awful contract.

I would rather have barnes than kemba, skip the celtics part and deal direct with Sacramento

Ccwatercraft · Post #1427 » by **Ccwatercraft** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:09 pm

sco wrote:https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nba-rumors-kings-interested-john-015140154.html

If, per the article, the Kings are looking to deal Barnes, we should be all over that.

They want compensation for barnes yes. They aren't trying to unload him.

Andi Obst · Post #1428 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:41 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:Sato for Elfrid Payton.

Why?

sco · Post #1429 » by **sco** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:46 pm

We all knew that this was an "evaluation and development" season. I've seen enough of White and Carter to know they aren't starters. IMO, keeping them is only going to lower their value...even if we just dump Carter for a 2nd rounder at this point, I'd be fine. If White can be used as a deal enhancer with Otto or Lauri in a deal, I'd be fine.

bearadonisdna · Post #1430 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:50 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:Sato for Elfrid Payton.

Why?

salary dump mostly, get a pointguard in return for this season.

Andi Obst · Post #1431 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:53 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:Sato for Elfrid Payton.

Why?

salary dump mostly, get a pointguard in return for this season.

I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

bearadonisdna · Post #1432 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:22 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
Why?

salary dump mostly, get a pointguard in return for this season.

I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

LateNight · Post #1433 » by **LateNight** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:32 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
salary dump mostly, get a pointguard in return for this season.

I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

Sato and Thad's salaries are not our problem right now. They're actually good contracts that would be very helpful if you put more veterans or solid players around them (like Temple).

The issue is that WCJ, Coby, OPJ and Lauri are wildly inconsistent and have no chemistry, Denzel is being WAY overused, and we have 2-3 roster spots that are basically just being wasted.

We may have to trade Sato or someone just because our assets are limited - but I wouldn't do it for cap space reasons.

Andi Obst · Post #1434 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:46 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
salary dump mostly, get a pointguard in return for this season.

I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

Sato's contract isn't even fully guaranteed for next season. And looking at the available free agents, exploring the trade market seems to be the better option. You could still use Sato in trades in the offseason, so I'd prefer to keep him if Payton was our best offer.

bearadonisdna · Post #1435 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:48 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

Sato's contract isn't even fully guaranteed for next season. And looking at the available free agents, exploring the trade market seems to be the better option. You could still use Sato in trades in the offseason, so I'd prefer to keep him if Payton was our best offer.

Would like to get better than Payton no doubt. Basically the highest return possible but i would still settle for salary dump.
His non guarantee makes keeping him more palatable than before. Would have to wrap my head around that 1 more.

Just long term Sato isnt really starting player for us on a winning team. He would have to start at pointguard and we are seeing that show as we speak. Like i said he is a bit more palatable, i have to wrap my head around it more. This isnt your narrative but you can not invest in your bench while you have gaping holes in the starting lineup.

bearadonisdna · Post #1436 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:01 pm

Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
I think it should be possible to get a (minor) asset for Sato, but I would rather keep him than trade him for a worse player who has no future on this team.

wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

Sato's contract isn't even fully guaranteed for next season. And looking at the available free agents, exploring the trade market seems to be the better option. You could still use Sato in trades in the offseason, so I'd prefer to keep him if Payton was our best offer.

granted, then what say you about Thad? honestly.

Andi Obst · Post #1437 » by **Andi Obst** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:04 pm

bearadonisdna wrote:
Little Nathan wrote:
bearadonisdna wrote:
wouldnt you rather have his 10 mil to use in free agency?

Sato's contract isn't even fully guaranteed for next season. And looking at the available free agents, exploring the trade market seems to be the better option. You could still use Sato in trades in the offseason, so I'd prefer to keep him if Payton was our best offer.

granted, then what say you about Thad? honestly.

I think we could get a good return (FRP + maybe a young player worth looking at) for him. If we can, we should take advantage IMO.

CaPiTanAK · Post #1438 » by **CaPiTanAK** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:15 pm

Sato and Thad are productive players on value contracts. Thad I’m sure can fetch a first rounder and Sato can fetch two early second rounders. I personally would tear off the bandage on this despicable team. Trade everyone outside of Zach and PWill for picks and expirings. Rebuild the team the right way and be prepared to compete next year. Nobody on this roster outside of Lavine PWill Thad and Sato belong in the NBA. All of them suck and will be playing in the Chinese league soon.

bearadonisdna · Post #1439 » by **bearadonisdna** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:57 pm

Well i was on the boston board and they kinda rained on my trade parade telling me thad is untouchable because of his connection to zach.

One time i agree with Capitank remove the bandage, its expensive and not stopping the bleeding. You know vets cant get their minutes if the youth is playing good.

what i dont agree with is giving up the other foundational pieces. Like our top 10 draft picks who are currently our foundation at every position. Foundation means you build on top of it, like they are placeholders. That is 4-5 years of accumulated assets, you dont go zero dark thirty and hope for FA.

chefo · Post #1440 » by **chefo** » Tue Mar 23, 2021 3:02 pm

I wouldn't move Thad and Sato--they've been playing like top 4 players on the team. You need more Thads and Satos, not fewer. What you don't need is Vals, Archies, Lukes, and Shreks. These guys right there make as much as Harrison Barnes and are not good for much more than being warm practice bodies.