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Re: Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed 

Post#1461 » by holv03 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:53 pm

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I dont see us trading Zach Lavine either. Bulls are trying to upgradeby getting good vets to make aplayoff push this up coming season. Two names that are being thrown around are Dunn and Valentine.
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Post#1462 » by NewEra21 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:03 pm

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I dont see us trading Zach Lavine either. Bulls are trying to upgradeby getting good vets to make aplayoff push this up coming season. Two names that are being thrown around are Dunn and Valentine.

So one guy who hasnt improved in 3 years, on the last year of his rookie contract and our GM has been outspoken about essentially wanting to replace him. And another guy who showed maybe to be an average NBA player before not playing at all last year. Also will be his last year on rookie contract.

Future 2nd round picks at the most. Safe bet is no trades will be made, we sign our vets, maybe get the #7 or #8 seed and call it a season.
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Post#1463 » by sco » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:07 pm

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I dont see us trading Zach Lavine either. Bulls are trying to upgradeby getting good vets to make aplayoff push this up coming season. Two names that are being thrown around are Dunn and Valentine.

I agree, but I can't see much in return for those guys other than a second rounder, unless we are using them as a way to take on a vet contract.
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Post#1464 » by Axolotl » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:15 pm

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They should be, too. And if someone is willing to send the right package to the Bulls for Markkanen and/or Carter, they'll be gone too.

I'd imagine LaVine would command a hefty price, being a possible all star with a high entertainment factor on a reasonable contract. Porter is pretty good, but overpaid. Everyone else being available for a trade pretty much goes without saying.

In the end it's about the team and the franchise, not about individual players.
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Post#1465 » by sco » Wed Jun 12, 2019 3:40 pm

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They should be, too. And if someone is willing to send the right package to the Bulls for Markkanen and/or Carter, they'll be gone too.

I'd imagine LaVine would command a hefty price, being a possible all star with a high entertainment factor on a reasonable contract. Porter is pretty good, but overpaid. Everyone else being available for a trade pretty much goes without saying.

In the end it's about the team and the franchise, not about individual players.

I am on board with us going after a top 10 talent, but that's not happening with this crew. Of the top 10 talents, the only one that is gettable via trade is AD, and we're not trumping the major suitors. After that, I'm not seeing a combo of these guys landing a Giannis.
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Post#1466 » by cjbulls » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:15 pm

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They should be, too. And if someone is willing to send the right package to the Bulls for Markkanen and/or Carter, they'll be gone too.

I'd imagine LaVine would command a hefty price, being a possible all star with a high entertainment factor on a reasonable contract. Porter is pretty good, but overpaid. Everyone else being available for a trade pretty much goes without saying.

In the end it's about the team and the franchise, not about individual players.

I am on board with us going after a top 10 talent, but that's not happening with this crew. Of the top 10 talents, the only one that is gettable via trade is AD, and we're not trumping the major suitors. After that, I'm not seeing a combo of these guys landing a Giannis.


Call me a homer, but I think LaVine, Carter and the #7 pick is competitive with a Lakers/Boston/Knicks offer. I don't really want AD though after all this nonsense.
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Post#1467 » by dawhizz » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:20 pm

Maybe this has been discussed, but is there a match with Portland centering around McCollum and Porter? Porter would be an big upgrade from Harkless for them and makes them less guard dependent and McCollum could play the point for us and allow us to take a wing at 7 (unless we had to include it in the deal). Would Portland even consider Dunn/Porter for McCollum/Harkless? Would we have to add #7? Would they even be enough? Just spitballing here.
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Post#1468 » by MrSparkle » Wed Jun 12, 2019 4:26 pm

dawhizz wrote:Maybe this has been discussed, but is there a match with Portland centering around McCollum and Porter? Porter would be an big upgrade from Harkless for them and makes them less guard dependent and McCollum could play the point for us and allow us to take a wing at 7 (unless we had to include it in the deal). Would Portland even consider Dunn/Porter for McCollum/Harkless? Would we have to add #7? Would they even be enough? Just spitballing here.


I don't think McCollum and LaVine would work as a pair. Bad defense. Bad IQ. Neither has been successful at PG.

Sorry to be blunt, but what are you thinking !?!?! :lol:

IMO Porter is our best player next season. He is a glue player - does a little bit of everything, can switch between SF and PF, and ought to enhance Lauri's and Zach's games rather than take shots from them.

I'm still surprised GarPax inquired, I'm surprised he went for Bobby and Jabari. It was a desperate heave by Grunfeld. Also his value was low and I don't think he was meshing with Wall and that dysfunctional Wizards team.

We've needed a multi-position wing for the longest time. I'm okay with adding another one in the draft, like Hunter or Culver. Even Reddish if he ultimately looks like the best prospect left. They'll need development time anyway, and I don't foresee Hutchinson being a big impact player.
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Post#1469 » by boozapalooza » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:29 pm

cjbulls wrote:
sco wrote:
Axolotl wrote:
They should be, too. And if someone is willing to send the right package to the Bulls for Markkanen and/or Carter, they'll be gone too.

I'd imagine LaVine would command a hefty price, being a possible all star with a high entertainment factor on a reasonable contract. Porter is pretty good, but overpaid. Everyone else being available for a trade pretty much goes without saying.

In the end it's about the team and the franchise, not about individual players.

I am on board with us going after a top 10 talent, but that's not happening with this crew. Of the top 10 talents, the only one that is gettable via trade is AD, and we're not trumping the major suitors. After that, I'm not seeing a combo of these guys landing a Giannis.


Call me a homer, but I think LaVine, Carter and the #7 pick is competitive with a Lakers/Boston/Knicks offer. I don't really want AD though after all this nonsense.


I think we’d all take AD. Would prefer to move Carter to see it happen, cause he’s a backup if Lauri/AD are on the team. Lauri should really be our only untouchable. But I agree that Lavine, Carter, and 7 would be a damn good offer for the Pelicans.
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Post#1470 » by cjbulls » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:44 pm

boozapalooza wrote:
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sco wrote:I am on board with us going after a top 10 talent, but that's not happening with this crew. Of the top 10 talents, the only one that is gettable via trade is AD, and we're not trumping the major suitors. After that, I'm not seeing a combo of these guys landing a Giannis.


Call me a homer, but I think LaVine, Carter and the #7 pick is competitive with a Lakers/Boston/Knicks offer. I don't really want AD though after all this nonsense.


I think we’d all take AD. Would prefer to move Carter to see it happen, cause he’s a backup if Lauri/AD are on the team. Lauri should really be our only untouchable. But I agree that Lavine, Carter, and 7 would be a damn good offer for the Pelicans.


ESPN just posted an article of their insiders picking reasonable AD trades (of course no Bulls mentioned). I don't see how that package isn't competitive. I'll spare you how they reached the third teams, and just show you what the Pelicans were receiving. The only one even competitive with Lavine, Carter, and #7 are the Lakers. Boston wasn't listed here, but Tatum, Smart, #14 and Grizzlies pick is very competitive as well. But both Boston and LA have outside issues interfering (Boston losing Iriving, NO owner hates Lakers)

Knicks: Matthew Dellavedova, Billy Garrett, Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr., Cedi Osman, 2019 No. 3 pick, 2021 Dallas first-round pick, 2022 Milwaukee first-round pick (top-10 protected 2022 and 2023, top-8 protected in 2024, otherwise 2024 and 2025 second-round picks)

Lakers: Brandon Ingram, 2019 No. 4 pick, 2019 No. 6 pick

Clippers: Danilo Gallinari, Josh Jackson, Jerome Robinson, 2019 No. 6 pick, 2020 LA first-round pick*, 2021 Miami first-round pick

Nuggets: Gary Harris, Monte Morris, Malik Beasley, Michael Porter Jr., 2021 Denver first-round pick, 2022 Denver second-round pick, 2023 Denver second-round pick

Portland: CJ McCollum, Jusuf Nurkic, 2019 No. 25 pick, 2021 Portland first-round pick
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Post#1471 » by sco » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:25 pm

Saw this here: https://pippenainteasy.com/2019/06/12/chicago-bulls-atlantic-division-trade-deal-possibilities/5/

Admittedly, I sorta like it, but Simmon's lack of an outside shot worries me (but much less than Ball).

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Post#1472 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:00 pm

We shouldnt consider trading Zach or Lauri unless its for AD maybe..
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Post#1473 » by bad knees » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:30 pm

sco wrote:Saw this here: https://pippenainteasy.com/2019/06/12/chicago-bulls-atlantic-division-trade-deal-possibilities/5/

Admittedly, I sorta like it, but Simmon's lack of an outside shot worries me (but much less than Ball).

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Why would the Sixers want Carter when they already have Embid?
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Post#1474 » by StunnerKO » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:37 pm

bad knees wrote:
sco wrote:Saw this here: https://pippenainteasy.com/2019/06/12/chicago-bulls-atlantic-division-trade-deal-possibilities/5/

Admittedly, I sorta like it, but Simmon's lack of an outside shot worries me (but much less than Ball).

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Why would the Sixers want Carter when they already have Embid?

Carter def can play the 4 and the 5 position if they did want him plus Embiid injury history makes him untrustworthy
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Post#1475 » by DowJones » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:53 pm

What would Chicago look to give Cleveland in order to jump from 7 to 5? That is a big jump for Chicago because it puts them ahead of Phoenix in the race for the draft’s second best point guard.
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Post#1476 » by Jiipee84 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:26 am

https://pippenainteasy.com/2019/06/12/chicago-bulls-atlantic-division-trade-deal-possibilities/4/
How about this trade?

Or this
https://pippenainteasy.com/2019/06/11/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-revisiting-3-chicago-bulls-packages/3/


This caught my eye.

'' Although trade talks surrounding the Bulls pick have been almost nonexistent, the Bulls have the means to pull off a big draft day trade, whether that means moving up or down in the draft''.
Source.
https://dawindycity.com/2019/06/11/chicago-bulls-blueprint-perfect-offseason/
What big draft day trade and with who and who's the players on that trade.
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Post#1477 » by rtblues » Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:54 am

2 things:

1. Why would you trade your best assets and future to rent a guy for a year?

2. And on slightly tangential topic, I would not want any part of any deal that yields the
Bulls a PG that is not an outside threat, and can't hit threes, we've already got that now.
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Post#1478 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:21 pm

DowJones wrote:What would Chicago look to give Cleveland in order to jump from 7 to 5? That is a big jump for Chicago because it puts them ahead of Phoenix in the race for the draft’s second best point guard.


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Post#1479 » by RakimAbdulJabar » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:23 pm

MeloRoseNoah wrote:If Lauri is in this draft, he would be neck to neck with Zion, with Zion slightly favored over him.


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Post#1480 » by StunnerKO » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:50 pm

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