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GameBredAPBT · Post #1461 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 4:10 am

Utah look incredible lately

Sexton was marvelous tonight. His defense on gary harris was very very good

dice · Post #1462 » by **dice** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 4:57 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Nets firing Atkinson is so odd, he has been over achieving with them for 2-3 years now and this is how he leaves. Wonder what made them do this now right before the playoffs, was it money or did they want to tank and Atkinson refused?

The bulls should definitely be interested in him, he brought the nets out of a terrible situation and I’m sure he can do it here too.

Put yourself in his shoes: you’ve got a wonderful thing going, and the owner guts your team to bring in some overrated nut job who refuses to play defense & is largely a toxic bench warmer, and throws huge money at a high mileage vet who will never play elite ball again. Can you blame him? They thwarted everything he worked for

that's a pretty wild take. first of all, kyrie is a "toxic bench warmer"? huh? and durant will never play elite ball again? based on what?

the nets were going nowhere special before the kyrie and KD acquisitions. they still might not, but it gives them a shot

The Nets were successful last yr because of Kenny

or because russell was healthy the whole year and significantly improved. or because joe harris and jarret allen replaced carroll and crabbe in the starting lineup and played well. or because rebounding machine ed davis was added to the roster, bringing their rebounding up to average

know who the coach was the previous 2 years when they were awful? kenny atkinson

dice · Post #1463 » by **dice** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:35 am

harden w/ the 30/10/14/10to quadruple double

harden first 35 games: 38.5 ppg
since: 28.9

TheStig · Post #1464 » by **TheStig** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 5:49 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:
TheStig wrote:I think Dave Joeger, Kenny Atkinson and Thibs both need to get a serious look as the next head coach. I don't think you're going to have anyone better come along this summer than one of those 3. Any of the 3 would be a massive improvement on Boylen. Bulls should be negotiating with one now.

Thibs is terrible, no way. This isn’t 2010. I dunno if he’ll ever coach in the nba again, and certainly not for Chicago. Not unless he changes his way big time. His tenure in Minnesota was disastrous

Kenny & Joerger, Of course. Obvious answers.

How is Thibs terrible? Bulls have gotten worse without him, even when they brought back the same exact roster, they went from a 2nd round team to a dysfunctional team that missed the playoffs. Minny didn't make the playoffs before or after him. He snapped a 15 year streak of missing the playoffs. I think it would have ended differently if the owner didn't step in and pay Wiggins and leave Jimmy hanging. And he will most definitely coach again.

I stand by my statement that there are 3 really good options out there.

dumbell78 · Post #1465 » by **dumbell78** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 6:53 am

dice wrote:harden w/ the 30/10/14/10to quadruple double

harden first 35 games: 38.5 ppg
since: 28.9

Playoffs will be very interesting, he seems gassed at this point. Mike D loves to ride guys, I wonder if there are any plans for some load management in Houston.

GameBredAPBT · Post #1466 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 7:09 pm

dice wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Nets firing Atkinson is so odd, he has been over achieving with them for 2-3 years now and this is how he leaves. Wonder what made them do this now right before the playoffs, was it money or did they want to tank and Atkinson refused?

The bulls should definitely be interested in him, he brought the nets out of a terrible situation and I’m sure he can do it here too.

Put yourself in his shoes: you’ve got a wonderful thing going, and the owner guts your team to bring in some overrated nut job who refuses to play defense & is largely a toxic bench warmer, and throws huge money at a high mileage vet who will never play elite ball again. Can you blame him? They thwarted everything he worked for

that's a pretty wild take. first of all, kyrie is a "toxic bench warmer"? huh? and durant will never play elite ball again? based on what?

the nets were going nowhere special before the kyrie and KD acquisitions. they still might not, but it gives them a shot

The Nets were successful last yr because of Kenny

or because russell was healthy the whole year and significantly improved. or because joe harris and jarret allen replaced carroll and crabbe in the starting lineup and played well. or because rebounding machine ed davis was added to the roster, bringing their rebounding up to average

know who the coach was the previous 2 years when they were awful? kenny atkinson

Not that bold at all. They were most certainly headed somewhere & seemed to have a great future under Atkinson . They’d be one of the better teams out East this yr had they kept their group together

Irving never plays basketball & no one likes him after a while, wherever he goes. The guys a total clown & he’s already laying waste to any future the Nets might have. Tyrone Lue!?!? In place I Of Kenny Atkinson?

No elite athletes ever come back from blown Achilles. Doesn’t happen. He’s done

This was expected to happen let’s be honest. Last yr was a fluke & can be attributed to Atkinson’s brilliance as a coach. Same old Nets. Even their new GM is forced to fold to their nutty ownership

dice · Post #1467 » by **dice** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 7:44 pm

GameBredAPBT wrote:
dice wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:

Put yourself in his shoes: you’ve got a wonderful thing going, and the owner guts your team to bring in some overrated nut job who refuses to play defense & is largely a toxic bench warmer, and throws huge money at a high mileage vet who will never play elite ball again. Can you blame him? They thwarted everything he worked for

that's a pretty wild take. first of all, kyrie is a "toxic bench warmer"? huh? and durant will never play elite ball again? based on what?

the nets were going nowhere special before the kyrie and KD acquisitions. they still might not, but it gives them a shot

The Nets were successful last yr because of Kenny

or because russell was healthy the whole year and significantly improved. or because joe harris and jarret allen replaced carroll and crabbe in the starting lineup and played well. or because rebounding machine ed davis was added to the roster, bringing their rebounding up to average

know who the coach was the previous 2 years when they were awful? kenny atkinson

Not that bold at all. They were most certainly headed somewhere & seemed to have a great future under Atkinson . They’d be one of the better teams out East this yr had they kept their group together

Irving never plays basketball & no one likes him after a while, wherever he goes. The guys a total clown & he’s already laying waste to any future the Nets might have. Tyrone Lue!?!? In place I Of Kenny Atkinson?

No elite athletes ever come back from blown Achilles. Doesn’t happen. He’s done

This was expected to happen let’s be honest. Last yr was a fluke & can be attributed to Atkinson’s brilliance as a coach. Same old Nets. Even their new GM is forced to fold to their nutty ownership

you didn't explain why in only 1 season out of 4 under atkinson they've had success. and that one year happened to be the one where russell, allen and harris came to the forefront and ed davis was on the roster. there is no evidence whatsoever than kenny adkinson was a major factor in last year's mild success

kenny atkinson has a .383 winning percentage as an nba head coach

GameBredAPBT · Post #1468 » by **GameBredAPBT** » Sun Mar 8, 2020 10:28 pm

Zion Williamson is such a bad rebounder. I knew he wouldn’t be able to pull boards in bunches in the nba

TheSuzerain · Post #1469 » by **TheSuzerain** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 1:37 am

Grizz sign Jontay Porter.

Man, it sucks to be a Bulls fan.

Post #1470 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 1:46 am

Doesn't anyone find it odd that PHX is much better with Baynes starting than Ayton?

Statwise its no contest but for some reason PHX just wins when Ayton doesn't play.

step · Post #1471 » by **step** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 1:46 am

GameBredAPBT wrote:Zion Williamson is such a bad rebounder. I knew he wouldn’t be able to pull boards in bunches in the nba

He's still averaging 23 and 7... he's not terrible. Room for improvement? Sure.
Not sure why everyone has expectations he should be a complete HoF coming out of college.

Post #1472 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 1:51 am

Wow this is a crazy statline for Rui Hachimura 0-8 zero points 6rebs 3asts in 40 minutes!

Wow what happened there.

PaKii94 · Post #1473 » by **PaKii94** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 2:27 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Doesn't anyone find it odd that PHX is much better with Baynes starting than Ayton?

Statwise its no contest but for some reason PHX just wins when Ayton doesn't play.

3point shot> 2 point shots

Chi town · Post #1474 » by **Chi town** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 2:47 am

TheSuzerain wrote:Grizz sign Jontay Porter.

Man, it sucks to be a Bulls fan.

We aren’t exactly ACL friendly.

Chi town · Post #1475 » by **Chi town** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 2:47 am

PaKii94 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:Doesn't anyone find it odd that PHX is much better with Baynes starting than Ayton?

Statwise its no contest but for some reason PHX just wins when Ayton doesn't play.

3point shot> 2 point shots

And Giannis doesn’t play.

dice · Post #1476 » by **dice** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:54 am

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Wow this is a crazy statline for Rui Hachimura 0-8 zero points 6rebs 3asts in 40 minutes!

Wow what happened there.

that's not a particularly crazy stat-line. you can flip a coin 8 times and have it come up all heads once in a while

dice · Post #1477 » by **dice** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:56 am

step wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote:Zion Williamson is such a bad rebounder. I knew he wouldn’t be able to pull boards in bunches in the nba

He's still averaging 23 and 7... he's not terrible. Room for improvement? Sure.
Not sure why everyone has expectations he should be a complete HoF coming out of college.

he's 6'6" and averaging 8.2 boards per 36 minutes. that's certainly not terrible...averaged 10.6 per 36 in college. and rebounding is one thing that translates very well college to pros

jc23 · Post #1478 » by **jc23** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 12:59 pm

Maybe it was brought up early in the season but im just now realizing the lakers will have home court for all 7 games vs the clippers if they play. Clippers fans will be drowned out by the purple and gold.

Dresden · Post #1479 » by **Dresden** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 3:24 pm

jc23 wrote:Maybe it was brought up early in the season but im just now realizing the lakers will have home court for all 7 games vs the clippers if they play. Clippers fans will be drowned out by the purple and gold.

That's interesting. When has that ever happened before?

moorhosj · Post #1480 » by **moorhosj** » Mon Mar 9, 2020 4:44 pm

dice wrote:or because russell was healthy the whole year and significantly improved. or because joe harris and jarret allen replaced carroll and crabbe in the starting lineup and played well. or because rebounding machine ed davis was added to the roster, bringing their rebounding up to average

know who the coach was the previous 2 years when they were awful? kenny atkinson

Maybe his significant improvement was, in part, because of Atkinson. Russell has been worse this season without Atkinson, that is clear.

Joe Harris and Jarrett Allen did play well last year when inserted into the lineup. Each of them came to BRK while Atkinson was coach and each were developed. How is this evidence that Atkinson is a bad coach?

He join BRK when they were known to have some of the worst talent in the league with the worst collection of long-term assets. They haven't had a lottery pick since 2010. Yet, they made the playoffs last year and will again this year.