Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season

[RSP83]

Dinwiddie is now available per wiretap. He's more of shoot first point guard, but more of a point guard than Coby at this point of career.

He's out for the rest of this year with his ACL tear. Should be good to go at the start of next season. Most players recover fully from an ACL, plus he's just 27 years old, so he's probably a pretty safe bet. Sure, I'm for that, because a LaVine/Dinwiddie/Coby trio would take care of the guard position.

Sure, I'm up for that, if the trade price is right.

With Nets got huge chunk of their salary tied up to Kyrie, Harden, and KD. I assume Otto's expiring would be very interesting to them for cap relief, luxury tax savings.

[Dan Z]

Dinwiddie is now available per wiretap. He's more of shoot first point guard, but more of a point guard than Coby at this point of career.

He's out for the rest of this year with his ACL tear. Should be good to go at the start of next season. Most players recover fully from an ACL, plus he's just 27 years old, so he's probably a pretty safe bet. Sure, I'm for that, because a LaVine/Dinwiddie/Coby trio would take care of the guard position.

Sure, I'm up for that, if the trade price is right.

With Nets got huge chunk of their salary tied up to Kyrie, Harden, and KD. I assume Otto's expiring would be very interesting to them for cap relief, luxury tax savings.

I don't know if this matters with regard to his current injury, but Dinwiddie also had an ACL injury during his junior year of college.

[WindyCityBorn]

Dinwiddie can’t shoot and off of coming an ACL tear. No thanks.

[Andi Obst]

I like Dinwiddie, but he can opt out of his contract after this season if he wants to. No guarantee that he will with his injury, I would say the chances are pretty high though. Tough to trade for a guy who might leave before he gets the chance to play for you.

[kodo]

Dinwiddie is now available per wiretap. He's more of shoot first point guard, but more of a point guard than Coby at this point of career.

He's out for the rest of this year with his ACL tear. Should be good to go at the start of next season. Most players recover fully from an ACL, plus he's just 27 years old, so he's probably a pretty safe bet. Sure, I'm for that, because a LaVine/Dinwiddie/Coby trio would take care of the guard position.

Sure, I'm up for that, if the trade price is right.

I disagree most athletes fully recover from an ACL tear, I think that's still extremely rare and limited to really only Lavine.

Porzingis - still frequently injured and nowhere near his old self defensively, one of the most agile 7' 3" guys we've ever seen to an immobile turnstile
Jabari Parker - frequently injured. Hard to say how it affected his career singe he got it so early, but the drop in athleticism is notable IMO.
Gallinari - frequently injured, but he was mainly a spot up shooter so had the least affect on his game
Shumpert - basically out of the league now, as a defensive player his loss in movement was a killer. Tried to make it as a 3 point shooter.
Dante Exum - another early ACL tear, but shows nothing of the promise that warranted picking him #3. I would bet it had a permanent effect.
Brandon Knight - originally a volume shooter averaging up to 20 ppg, 6-8 ppg bench guy post ACL
And obviously, our own Derrick.

We have a fresh batch of ACL tears with Thomas Bryant, Klay Thompson, and Dinwiddie so we'll see how these guys do. But I wouldn't bet on it being 100% recovery. Maybe in Klay's case, because like Gallo he's 99% skill based. But point guards haven't fared well post knee surgeries, like Derrick and Kemba.

[Grodoboldo]

Man, The Wizards had Boston on the ropes (up 5 with 45 seconds to go) and **** up big time!

[ImSlower]

That was some kind of finish! Gotta give it to the Celtics. Outstanding traps executed perfectly, and Washington completely failed on their end.

[kodo]

That was some level of bad luck at the end for WAS to lose. They had a great camera angle on Beal's TO and his foot as it came down literally just slid sideways and caused him to collapse. They had that game won.

They can join the Bulls in the "but we were so close" club.

[CobyWhite0]

Hard pass on Dinwiddie, just because if Zach and Coby are going to be here you need your 3rd guard to be a defender, first and foremost.

Dinwiddie didn't defend much before his latest ACL, one would have to imagine that he's not going to be better afterwards.

[ImSlower]

Didn't expect to wake today to read about an even worse collapse / wild comeback the same night. Kings missed 6 straight free throws when up 8 with 70 seconds, and Charlotte won. Ooooouch.

[Grodoboldo]

Didn't expect to wake today to read about an even worse collapse / wild comeback the same night. Kings missed 6 straight free throws when up 8 with 70 seconds, and Charlotte won. Ooooouch.

Man, the Kings are a disgrace. Much respect to their fans, I can't even imagine what that must be like.

[ChicagoStrong]

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[Ice Man]

I disagree most athletes fully recover from an ACL tear, I think that's still extremely rare and limited to really only Lavine.

Porzingis - still frequently injured and nowhere near his old self defensively, one of the most agile 7' 3" guys we've ever seen to an immobile turnstile
Jabari Parker - frequently injured. Hard to say how it affected his career singe he got it so early, but the drop in athleticism is notable IMO.
Gallinari - frequently injured, but he was mainly a spot up shooter so had the least affect on his game
Shumpert - basically out of the league now, as a defensive player his loss in movement was a killer. Tried to make it as a 3 point shooter.
Dante Exum - another early ACL tear, but shows nothing of the promise that warranted picking him #3. I would bet it had a permanent effect.
Brandon Knight - originally a volume shooter averaging up to 20 ppg, 6-8 ppg bench guy post ACL
And obviously, our own Derrick.

We have a fresh batch of ACL tears with Thomas Bryant, Klay Thompson, and Dinwiddie so we'll see how these guys do. But I wouldn't bet on it being 100% recovery. Maybe in Klay's case, because like Gallo he's 99% skill based. But point guards haven't fared well post knee surgeries, like Derrick and Kemba.

Most of those guys had add-on injuries, or were always fringe players (Shump, Exum). And you left out a whole bunch of complete records (Kyle Lowry, Ricky Rubio, many others). But yes, Dinwiddie's surgery is a concern and will lower his market value. I should not have implied otherwise.

[Ice Man]

If I ran the Hawks, I would have fired Lloyd Pierce too, because Atlanta has greatly underperformed where I thought it would be when the season ended, given how many seemingly strong veterans it signed to surround Trae, Collins, and Hunter.

But man those vets have stunk, and that might be on them, not Lloyd. Capela has been just fine. But Gallo seems to have fallen off the old age cliff (he is 32), Bogdanovic has been brutal, and Rondo ... Rondo ... oh man. Cam Payne is WAY better, it's not even close.

[kulaz3000]

If I ran the Hawks, I would have fired Lloyd Pierce too, because Atlanta has greatly underperformed where I thought it would be when the season ended, given how many seemingly strong veterans it signed to surround Trae, Collins, and Hunter.

But man those vets have stunk, and that might be on them, not Lloyd. Capela has been just fine. But Gallo seems to have fallen off the old age cliff (he is 32), Bogdanovic has been brutal, and Rondo ... Rondo ... oh man. Cam Payne is WAY better, it's not even close.

Gallo and Bogdanovic are good players, it could very well be a Thad situation where they just aren't be used as they should be.

I'd welcome either of those players on this team, but not at their respective contracts though.

[kodo]

I don't follow the Hawks closely but I was a little surprised by the firing, wins against the Celtics, Nuggets, Celtics, Raps, Sixers, Nets...they've beaten most of the EC top teams except Milwaukee. Sure their record isn't great, but the EC isn't a cakewalk anymore. I didn't think Atlanta was doing that terribly, just inconsistent.

I guess they think Nate McMillan might get more out of the players? He always seems to beat expectations with his teams. I know we all debated him for the Bulls.

[TheSuzerain]

The "well actually, Morant is a better asset than Zion" crowd is awfully quiet this season.

[RSP83]

Hawks looks like they're trending down, any chance some of their veterans think of jumping ship? Gallo had success with Billy in OKC, Capela is somebody who fills a need and within Zach's timeline to be added to our core.

[Repeat 3-peat]

The "well actually, Morant is a better asset than Zion" crowd is awfully quiet this season.

Pure silence.

Zion is ridiculous. Every defender knows what he's going to do and they can't stop it.

Lonzo has been playing good as of late also, locked down Mitchell tonight.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Kyire with 27 pts, James Harden with 30 pts, 14 rebs, 15 ast(0 TO's). Bruce Brown has given them some good play as of late.

The Nets are going to be so tough to stop in the postseason.