LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

Bullflip · Post #1481 » by **Bullflip** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:43 am

ryan44 wrote:
Bullflip wrote:You know what's hilarious? People thinking that Noah will last a full season healthy thereby wasting prime years with Rose.

And this rebuts the fact that LMA has about as much post game as Boozer how?

I am just showing LMA would be much more dependable than Noah, because Noah can't even play healthy in the postseason to begin with. You can start Taj Gibson with LMA, and have Boozer come off the bench.

CalilLove89 · Post #1482 » by **CalilLove89** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:43 am

tre11408 wrote:
CalilLove89 wrote:Jesus, Asik finished more than Noah when we had him.

No he didn't, not even close.

WHAT

Taj and Asik finished every game, please back me up bulls board.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #1483 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:43 am

musiqsoulchild wrote:But, I dont see how the below is winning you a championship:

Rose
Butler
Deng
Taj
LMA

So what's the problem with that lineup?

musiqsoulchild · Post #1484 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:43 am

Godzilla039 wrote:These rumors have to be frustrating for Thibs considering how we lost Asik. I'm sure he'd probably be on board with a Noah/Aldridge swap if we had Asik, especially since Omer was the guy getting crunch time minutes vs. the Heat in 2011.

This.

If LMA were coming into our PF slot, I have no issue with it. Especially if you can replace Noah's D and rebounding impact with Asik.

But thats a huge hypothetical and its not what we are discussing here.

As it stands, a Noah for LMA swap is pointless without handling the Boozer situation.

Bullflip · Post #1485 » by **Bullflip** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:44 am

CalilLove89 wrote:
tre11408 wrote:
CalilLove89 wrote:Jesus, Asik finished more than Noah when we had him.

No he didn't, not even close.

WHAT

Taj and Asik finished every game, please back me up bulls board.

This is true. Thibs relied on Taj and Asik alot to close out games defensively. Asik was much better defensively than Noah.

Jimmy Forums · Post #1486 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

bullsnewdynasty wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:But, I dont see how the below is winning you a championship:

Rose
Butler
Deng
Taj
LMA

So what's the problem with that lineup?

LMA at the 5. Let's not get crazy here. We could use this lineup, yes, but this would never pass as the lineup.

Jimmy Forums · Post #1487 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

CalilLove89 wrote:
tre11408 wrote:
CalilLove89 wrote:Jesus, Asik finished more than Noah when we had him.

No he didn't, not even close.

WHAT

Taj and Asik finished every game, please back me up bulls board.

Ask, and you shall receive.

It happened!

Bullflip · Post #1488 » by **Bullflip** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

musiqsoulchild wrote:
Godzilla039 wrote:These rumors have to be frustrating for Thibs considering how we lost Asik. I'm sure he'd probably be on board with a Noah/Aldridge swap if we had Asik, especially since Omer was the guy getting crunch time minutes vs. the Heat in 2011.

This.

If LMA were coming into our PF slot, I have no issue with it. Especially if you can replace Noah's D and rebounding impact with Asik.

But thats a huge hypothetical and its not what we are discussing here.

As it stands, a Noah for LMA swap is pointless without handling the Boozer situation.

Yea but doesn't this show that Noah can be replaced with a role player like Asik much more easier than getting a scorer like Aldridge.

CalilLove89 · Post #1489 » by **CalilLove89** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

musiqsoulchild wrote:
Godzilla039 wrote:These rumors have to be frustrating for Thibs considering how we lost Asik. I'm sure he'd probably be on board with a Noah/Aldridge swap if we had Asik, especially since Omer was the guy getting crunch time minutes vs. the Heat in 2011.

This.

If LMA were coming into our PF slot, I have no issue with it. Especially if you can replace Noah's D and rebounding impact with Asik.

But thats a huge hypothetical and its not what we are discussing here.

As it stands, a Noah for LMA swap is pointless without handling the Boozer situation.

If this wee to happen we would deal with boozer.

With Mirotic and the charlotte pick as assets to get a center, I think this is the reason we are not doing the deal, we would have to amnesty booz, and that would cost us money.

Post #1490 » by **RedBulls23** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:46 am

People seem to keep pointing to the LMA>Boozer debate. There is no debate to that. Aldridge is clearly better. But the question is, is LMA>Boozer+Noah?

We have to be able to get a starting level center that can anchor Thibs defense.

ryan44 · Post #1491 » by **ryan44** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:47 am

Bullflip wrote:
ryan44 wrote:
Bullflip wrote:You know what's hilarious? People thinking that Noah will last a full season healthy thereby wasting prime years with Rose.

And this rebuts the fact that LMA has about as much post game as Boozer how?

I am just showing LMA would be much more dependable than Noah, because Noah can't even play healthy in the postseason to begin with. You can start Taj Gibson with LMA, and have Boozer come off the bench.

Alright, but that's a separate argument. The initial statement was that the Bulls needed a low-post scorer. It was then pointed out that LMA operates from the post about as often as Boozer, and might even be a worse finisher at the rim. Health wasn't a part of the initial argument, it was entirely about low post presence.

ryan44 · Post #1492 » by **ryan44** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:48 am

Red-Bulls83 wrote:People seem to keep pointing to the LMA>Boozer debate. There is no debate to that. Aldridge is clearly better. But the question is, is LMA>Boozer+Noah?

We have to be able to get a starting level center that can anchor Thibs defense.

Don't forget Butler. Portland wants Noah and Butler. Noah is simply the starting point.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #1493 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:49 am

Jimmy Forums wrote:
bullsnewdynasty wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:But, I dont see how the below is winning you a championship:

Rose
Butler
Deng
Taj
LMA

So what's the problem with that lineup?

LMA at the 5. Let's not get crazy here. We could use this lineup, yes, but this would never pass as the lineup.

Noah is a half inch taller than Aldridge. It's not as crazy as it sounds. How many teams actually have a legitimate center you have to worry about? The Heat don't use a traditional lineup. And you replace the lost defense with Taj.

Also, handling the Boozer situation? Amnesty him.

musiqsoulchild · Post #1494 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:49 am

bullsnewdynasty wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:But, I dont see how the below is winning you a championship:

Rose
Butler
Deng
Taj
LMA

So what's the problem with that lineup?

You have deficits in the froncourt. Additionally, Skiles D was based on wings....but Thibs D is based on big men.

How is that happening here? We are not going to win a championship without insane D. We have to add scoring to it. LMA helps, but not at Noah's expense. Trade Deng for LMA and its easy to see how we can win a chip:

Rose
Butler
Dunleavy
Aldridge
Noah

Again, I am only using closing lineups...not most minute lineups.

kyrv · Post #1495 » by **kyrv** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:51 am

CalilLove89 wrote:
tre11408 wrote:
No he didn't, not even close.

WHAT

Taj and Asik finished every game, please back me up bulls board.

Tre is correct. You are not.

You don't really think Taj and Asik finished every game do you? Come on now.

CalilLove89 · Post #1496 » by **CalilLove89** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:51 am

Is LMA a free agent next year?

bullsnewdynasty · Post #1497 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:52 am

musiqsoulchild wrote:
bullsnewdynasty wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:But, I dont see how the below is winning you a championship:

Rose
Butler
Deng
Taj
LMA

So what's the problem with that lineup?

You have deficits in the froncourt. Additionally, Skiles D was based on wings....but Thibs D is based on big men.

How is that happening here? We are not going to win a championship without insane D. We have to add scoring to it. LMA helps, but not at Noah's expense. Trade Deng for LMA and its easy to see how we can win a chip:

Rose
Butler
Dunleavy
Aldridge
Noah

Again, I am only using closing lineups...not most minute lineups.

Doesn't ditching Boozer's bum defense and adding Taj come close to making up for the clear, but not drastic defensive downgrade from Noah to Aldridge?

OldSchoolNoBull · Post #1498 » by **OldSchoolNoBull** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:53 am

CalilLove89 wrote:Is LMA a free agent next year?

No, 2015.

Saphir · Post #1499 » by **Saphir** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:53 am

CalilLove89 wrote:Is LMA a free agent next year?

Summer of 2015. Incidentally, that is also when Kevin Love can exercise his ETO.

CalilLove89 · Post #1500 » by **CalilLove89** » Thu Jul 4, 2013 5:53 am

kyrv wrote:
CalilLove89 wrote:
tre11408 wrote:
No he didn't, not even close.

WHAT

Taj and Asik finished every game, please back me up bulls board.

Tre is correct. You are not.

You don't really think Taj and Asik finished every game do you? Come on now.

Asik finished more games than Noah.

Do you not remember, it was one of the biggest storylines of the season, we were paying Noah and Booz to finish on the bench.

Come on.