Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

[D_GoLow]

Of course rings matter here and the reality is that a Championship in NYC would mean more for his legacy than a 7th trophy for Chicago.

Phil knows, he was ON the last team that won a trophy in NYC.
All educated NBA fans are familiar with the name Willis Reed almost 40 years later because he won in NYC.
No one talks about the '75 Warriors or the '78 Bullets titles or even the Bucks '71 championship with Kareem.

The lure of winning in NYC this is so strong it brought Phil out of retirement.
Melo spent a year brokering a trade there so he could play in the mecca.

If I was Melo and being from the NYC area, that is where I'd want to win.
If I'm a NYC fan this would be like Rose bailing on us - esp after we just signed Phil Jackson to right the ship.

He's crazy if he leaves, money on the table and a pariah in the biggest city in the country.
Bulls/Knicks are big ratings games on TV. Does he really want to spend the afternoon being booed out of NYC?

Couldn't agree more.

It's hard to see him passing up an opportunity to win in NYC & work with one of the greatest minds ever in Phil Jackson.

[kdapiton]

Are they getting rid of Lin regardless if Melo doesn't go to HOU?

[DerrickRose025]

@SpearsNBAYahoo: While Carmelo Anthony gave off the impression if would not be easy to leave NY, he also said in Rockets meeting his 1st priority is to win.


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[ingvald]

Defense does not win championships but it helps. You can't win a ring in the NBA today only scoring 70 points in games. That's not going to cut it against the elite teams. It's about buckets and defense.

Well no ****, you cant be putrid offensively. Defense does win championships. History speaks for itself

When you say defense can win championships show me a NBA champ that won it all without out scoring its opponent? What you're saying is cliche. You're putting the cart before the horse. It's like trying to have a baby with no male and female interaction lol... its not gonna happen. You need both, and for the life of me I can't understand why more fans don't get this. Its not rocket science. That is why you're going after Melo is it not, to help you guys score more points?

Houston already had the #4 offense in the league. You seriously think scoring is the problem? If not, what does Melo bring that puts you over the top?

[jax98]

Are we talking about Houston's on-court problems yet? Here's my contribution:

http://www.hoop365.com/nba/western-conf ... asketball/

Basically (for those who don't want to click), the team is predictable. Maybe they won't be with Melo, but as of right now, they are.

[Droseisthe1]

Of course rings matter here and the reality is that a Championship in NYC would mean more for his legacy than a 7th trophy for Chicago.

Phil knows, he was ON the last team that won a trophy in NYC.
All educated NBA fans are familiar with the name Willis Reed almost 40 years later because he won in NYC.
No one talks about the '75 Warriors or the '78 Bullets titles or even the Bucks '71 championship with Kareem.

The lure of winning in NYC this is so strong it brought Phil out of retirement.
Melo spent a year brokering a trade there so he could play in the mecca.

If I was Melo and being from the NYC area, that is where I'd want to win.
If I'm a NYC fan this would be like Rose bailing on us - esp after we just signed Phil Jackson to right the ship.

He's crazy if he leaves, money on the table and a pariah in the biggest city in the country.
Bulls/Knicks are big ratings games on TV. Does he really want to spend the afternoon being booed out of NYC?

He's had an 10 year career to this point and it's well-proven, he can't be the best player on a team to win a title. He can be the best scorer on a title team...if and only if...he has a lot of complimentary pieces around him.

Chicago does. NY doesn't. Even if they get Love in 2015. They still don't.

[ophdog]

Mike Woodson did a terrible job of coaching last year. Remember the year before with the same players on each roster the Knicks won more games. I think the idea that Chicago talent far exceeds New York is way off

[Chitownbulls]

With CJ Miles going to the Pacers....a lot people on the general board think Stephenson is gone

[LobosJordan]

One small step for Melo. One giant step for Championship.

[I beg to differ]

When you say defense can win championships show me a NBA champ that won it all without out scoring its opponent? ... for the life of me I can't understand why more fans don't get this.

I also can't understand why your preposterous non-existing straw man fans don't get this.

You need both

So aside from dumping Asik, how else do you plan on improving your defense? We're planning on improving our offense with Melo, Derrick Rose, McBuckets, Mirotic, a shooter like Morrow, and maybe internal growth from youngsters Butler and Snell. Your offense and our defense are already absolutely elite. Melo's talents would be featured far more with us, we support him with better defense, and would have to meet fewer tough teams on the road to the finals.

[Chitownbulls]

Mike Woodson did a terrible job of coaching last year. Remember the year before with the same players on each roster the Knicks won more games. I think the idea that Chicago talent far exceeds New York is way off

You guys are at least 3 years away....rookie coach, has never been to the playoffs, not enough talent and ZERO defense.

[WinCity]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/484439913778003968[/tweet]

For one, McHale isn't the same appeal to Melo as it is Dwight.


And most likely, Melo ain't getting a max like Dwight either.

That is the most worthless inside sources report ever.

[Droseisthe1]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/484440818678104064[/tweet]

I don't need a "person with knowledge" to tell me this.


This exact same tweet will come out of Dallas as well.

[IndianPlaya17]

Knicks, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyAagzMuUo[/youtube]

Turned down for what?

The Bulls....that's what!!!

[Madison]

Bulls

Winning (easier path) = go to the east = Bulls
Winning (harder path) = go to the West = Rockets

That Spears tweet could make you either optimistic or pessimistic. The "it would not be easy to leave NY" part makes me pessimistic, but the "his 1st priority is to win" part makes me optimistic. Guessing he told Bulls the same thing.

[Droseisthe1]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/484439913778003968[/tweet]

For one, McHale isn't the same appeal to Melo as it is Dwight.


And most likely, Melo ain't getting a max like Dwight either.

That is the most worthless inside sources report ever.

I wonder how this whole free agent courtship thing the NBA has turned into would be without twitter

[IrishBeatdown]

When you say defense can win championships show me a NBA champ that won it all without out scoring its opponent?

amazing point, mods please close this thread

[ingvald]

Mike Woodson did a terrible job of coaching last year. Remember the year before with the same players on each roster the Knicks won more games. I think the idea that Chicago talent far exceeds New York is way off

Its not just about talent. Its about complimentary pieces. The Bulls core is all defense. Add a pure scorer like Melo and its golden. At least in theory. That's why we want him.

Complimentary Pieces.
Teamwork.

Its a concept.

[Jimmy Forums]

Why we all just need to relax for the most part during his meetings with other teams:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ScottCacciola/status/484441273382993920[/tweet]

[Chitownbulls]

Knicks, Mavs, Lakers, Rockets

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsyAagzMuUo[/youtube]

Turned down for what?

The Bulls....that's what!!!

Jeremy Lin is pi$$ed in that video!!!!