Wiretap: Bulls Hope To Re-Sign Zach LaVine At $14M-$16M

[Betta Bulleavit]

It's funny that Phoenix is maxing out a player who is eerily similar to LaVine.

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I like Lavine. But Booker is a better player. At least at this point.

Not to the tune of $32M though.

Lol!! No. Not close.

[kyrv]

The Bulls are in a great position to get really good deals, not only with our existing free agents, but any players still on the market. They just need to hold firm and let the money dry up around the league, agents will continue to come calling.

Zach I wouldn't be shocked if he signs a 1 year deal, just to prove himself. As for Nwaba, I can understand that he will be looking for a multiple year deal, just because of where he came from, I wouldn't blame him for wanting some security.

I think if there is any chance that they could for example get Butler/Irving, yes it will be an older Butler and both players have been injured, but that's still going for it, long shot, just as any plan is. Anyway if that's the case they should be careful with both Lavine and Nwaba.

I would love a one year deal for Lavine and he could end up making a lot more too, if he earns it - great. Just don't want all the risk to be on the Bulls side.

[keloms]

The Bulls are in a great position to get really good deals, not only with our existing free agents, but any players still on the market. They just need to hold firm and let the money dry up around the league, agents will continue to come calling.

Zach I wouldn't be shocked if he signs a 1 year deal, just to prove himself. As for Nwaba, I can understand that he will be looking for a multiple year deal, just because of where he came from, I wouldn't blame him for wanting some security.

1 year deals are not team friendly if you think they're someone that should be here long term. You spend a little more now so you don't risk it next season when there's likely to be $600m in cap space league wide available and the inflated salaries return for good-great players.

[blicka]

Just said the other day in another thread booker and zach lavine have very similar advanced stats/peripherals

Difference is booker has a higher usage rate,more fga's,more mins which allows him to inflate his stats on a trash team.His defense is equally as bad/worse than lavines

Booker is gonna get 158 million, lavine won't get half of that.

[Fantastik_Goat]

Zach Lavine vs. Devin Booker

fg% 3pt% ts% Ft%
.426 .365 .542 .849
.437 .373 .540 .820

Zach is the better 3pt shooter.

[Alcatraz17]

No, it’s beyond the point of argument that he’s been a bad basketball player so far in his career. Every statistical measure says so. He simply has.

Nba reality says he’s going to get overpaid because he can shoot and he’s fairly athletic. But it’s based on a prayer that the previous 4 years were an aberration and he’s suddenly going to be good.

Lol beyond the point of argument!

Beyond the point of arrogance.

You got it. Every metric that exists shows him to be a poor basketball player. They’re all wrong. You’ve seen through their shenanigans.

Not to rain on your parade, but I was actually referring to your comment being arrogant.

I don't believe the topic is beyond the point of argument.

[Red8911]

Just said the other day in another thread booker and zach lavine have very similar advanced stats/peripherals

Difference is booker has a higher usage rate,more fga's,more mins which allows him to inflate his stats on a trash team.His defense is equally as bad/worse than lavines

Booker is gonna get 158 million, lavine won't get half of that.

3 letters, ACL.

[SensiBull]

The point in Booker's career that he gets this contract is the point at which Minnesota traded Zach for Jimmy Butler. They said, "No thanks," and agreed to send us Kris Dunn and the pick that became Lauri Markkanen with it, rather than re-sign him.

[SensiBull]

Something tells me that they saw more than just similar shooting percentages between Booker and LaVine when they made that decision.

[WindyCityBorn]

Phoenix will regret that.

[WindyCityBorn]

Something tells me that they saw more than just similar shooting percentages between Booker and LaVine when they made that decision.

What exactly? His advanced stats are not impressive either.

[BR0D1E86]

Lol beyond the point of argument!

Beyond the point of arrogance.

You got it. Every metric that exists shows him to be a poor basketball player. They’re all wrong. You’ve seen through their shenanigans.

Not to rain on your parade, but I was actually referring to your comment being arrogant.

I don't believe the topic is beyond the point of argument.

I know what you were referring to. I figured that since every available metric that exists to measure a basketball player besides points per game shows that he's been a poor basketball player for four years out of four in his career, that it was beyond argument. But sure, some people choose to ignore 100% of the evidence for some reason and believe he's been a decent player.

[BR0D1E86]

Phoenix will regret that.

Agreed. High probability that's not a very good contract.

[bearadonisdna]

While i would agree that booker isnt probably worth the max, i feel that should be for all nba players but i would ballpark booker to be top 5-6 at his position.

[BR0D1E86]

While i would agree that booker isnt probably worth the max, i feel that should be for all nba players but i would ballpark booker to be top 5-6 at his position.

He's ascending, but I'm with you.. I think with the way NBA salaries are you need to have superstars at the max. He's not a superstar and I'm pretty confident he'll never be one.

[weneeda2guard]

when you are a lottery team for so long, as we discussed before we chose tanking, the idea of it sounds great, oh we will get top 3 picks season after season and add all these pretty names with high school and college hype, but it never pans out that way unless you are ready to be really bad for really long, evident by philly. fans like the idea of it to begin with, but losing gets real old real quick and then the fans, media begins to clowns and disown the franchise, season ticket holders start to decline which is where the arenas make they money along with concession stand sales declining because so many people are missing the games now, so the franchise has to jump behind 2nd tier players otherwise lose them for nothing as the 2nd tier star would surely sign in a better market with a more winning team , forcing the franchise to overpay. we were in the same boat when we had to give deals to deng, tyson chandler kirk hinrich.

we keep it up like phoenix, where we keep adding draft picks and its not helping make us a better team, we will be in the same boat.

[SensiBull]

Something tells me that they saw more than just similar shooting percentages between Booker and LaVine when they made that decision.

What exactly? His advanced stats are not impressive either.

I wasn't talking about good things.

[Chi town]

Suns are the new TWolves.

Awful GMing.

[Ice Man]

I wouldn't pay Booker anything like the max. He has flashes, but he is not outright good. Jason Tatum is a better player already as a rook, as is Ben Simmons, as is Donovan Mitchell. Jaylen Brown is a better player as a 2nd year guy, etc.

There are 30-40 players in the league who really make a difference, who make their teams win. Get as many of those as you can. The rest, they can stand in line.

[fleet]

Are the Bulls well within their rights to use that against him. Sure. Does that make it the best thing to do? Not necessarily.

What’s the nightmare risk in playing hardball with Zach? That Zach goes from

I don't see anything wrong with playing hardball to get things down into the range that they feel comfortable with. But the word is already out with regards to what they think his value is (14-16M). So to use the current circumstances to beat him down to a 4/40M dollar deal feels a bit opportunistic. Some people might not care. But it could very well matter to certain people...agents most notably.

EDIT: And remember....LOTS of teams are going to have cap space next year. Not just us. So if we are going to land somebody, chances are, it's going to be about more than just money.

Opportunism is fine for players that have not yet earned special consideration. Literally everyone in the game understands that. 2 way street. It goes for teams too. Players don't cut teams breaks unless its a megastar looking for a ring. You ask the Bulls to just pass out overmarket deals for unnacomplished players? That is irresponsible. Mismanagement. Ok so, Felicio wasn't bad enough.