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Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1481 » by MalagaBulls » Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:52 pm

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fleet wrote:Ryan Pace and George McCaskey have grabbed each other by the throat and wrestling to throw the other into the wood chipper. The suspense is building who wins.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1482 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:01 pm

This is getting spicy. Can't wait to see what happens.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1483 » by Susan » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:15 pm

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fleet wrote:Ryan Pace and George McCaskey have grabbed each other by the throat and wrestling to throw the other into the wood chipper. The suspense is building who wins.


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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1484 » by jnrjr79 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:42 pm

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Gotta think he sees the tackle market and wants in!

Maybe he comes back here..?


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I love Kyle Long, but the Bears seem to be set from guard to guard, but need a tackle. In addition, Long has been pretty transparent that while he still has warm and fuzzies for Bears fandom, he would not play for the Nagy/Pace regime. He seems to still have some hard feelings about the way he was cut.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1485 » by MalagaBulls » Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:49 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1486 » by MalagaBulls » Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:43 pm

Ruh roh, the hype train is slowing down.

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1487 » by Susan » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:06 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1488 » by fleet » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:10 pm

Hub is dead on.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1489 » by MalagaBulls » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:36 pm

fleet wrote:Hub is dead on.
Read that article, it is certainly another set of options. I think Williams goes back to SF personally. But if you could s8gn him it wouldnbe 12-13M+. You could then look to try and land Jones or trade for Minshew. Who knows though?
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1490 » by Susan » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:16 pm

fleet wrote:Hub is dead on.


With regards to what?

You don't think getting a franchise, first ballot Hall of Fame QB is a prudent move because we gotta resign our freaking kick returner?
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1491 » by Jeffster81 » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:18 pm

fleet wrote:Hub is dead on.


I get the questions he still has but in today's NFL if you don't have a good/great QB, then you don't have a team. Once you stabilize the QB position those other holes will easier to fill. So yeah, if Pace/Nagy wants to see past 2021 in Chicago, they need to swing big at the QB position this year. Retreads QBs like Jimmy G, Minshew, Foles are not saving Pace/Nagy jobs and drafted a QB is not going to help either out in the near future.

Swing back Pace and get Wilson.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1492 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:30 pm

I mean, look at Seattle’s supporting cast. I’d probably take the Bears offense over Seattle’s outside of QB, Seattle had junk around Russell and were top 10 in PPG. Metcalf is a physical monster but he didn’t produce significantly better numbers than ARob.

And their defense was way worse than the Bears.

And they finished 12-4, in the toughest division in football.

So, get the QB, that’s what matters. I’d easily give 3 1sts and some extra capital for Wilson or Watson.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1493 » by Susan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:30 am

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1494 » by patryk7754 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 1:54 am

I think the best-case scenario for everyone associated with the bears, from FO to fans, is for Pace to pull use every trick in the book to win a Superbowl this year. I think the only chance the bears have to win the super bowl in the next five years is if they get the QB, keep the defense in tact, and upgrade so things on offense. That sounds impossible but I think its do as long as ownership is willing to pay out a lot of money this offseason. Here are the steps I think Pace needs to take

1. Convert as many contracts into signing bonuses as possible. Not being an expert on the cap, Im not sure if there are any restrictions or limits to how much we can do but since im just a fan ill assume we can have as many signing bonuses as we want but I'll still try to keep it realistic. One thing that might happen is that the cap hit would be spread out in the remaining years of a player's contract but I think that's a different type of restructuring. Either way, I think its worth the loss of flexibility in cap for the next 2-3 years to get it this year. Players to target for contract conversion and how much we should save; Mack (6.6m), Quinn (5m), Jackson (3), Fuller (5m), Hicks (5m), and Graham (6m).

2. We do the trade for Watson or Wilson. It seems like we'll get whoever says yes first and that'll probably the Seahawks. I saw a tweet from on of the spotrac guys mentioning Watson restructures his contract to 2.9m after a trade to the saints so I'm going to assume the bears and wilson can do the same thing. So for the 2021 season the cap hit will be 2.9m from wilson. The package for Wilson would ideally be Foles, Miller, three 1st a second and later picks. After that we'd have about 20m in cap

3. With that 20m we resign some of our better backups to very friendly deals. I think FOs will have the negotiating leverage this offseason since there are going to be a lot of players on the market and the cap is low. I think a lot of guys will sign smaller contracts than they usually would or sign one year deals.

4. I think we have some really good trade value with James Daniels. There are a lot of good Gs on the market but they're a little older. For the right piece I would trade daniels and sign one of the FA Gs. My targets would be as follows: 1. Daniels for Brown jr. Ravens most likely say no and I wouldn't give up any more picks so on to the next. After being turned down by the ravens I try and get either a WR or pass rusher. Third option would be a 2nd or high 3rd. I think since the Giants just released their pro-bowl caliber gaurd they'd be open to trading for Daniels and I would want Darius Slayton in return.

5. Time to sign some FAs. I'd sign Rieff, Wagner, Neal, and Kirkpatrick. If we can get him for cheap, Aldon smith as well.


So we go into the season a favorites to win the superbowl but there are downsides for the future. We lose cap flexibility for the next 2-3 seasons. Probably have to let at least fuller, hicks, and Robinson walk. and We dont have 1 round picks for three years. However, we'd still have a great core on defense in Mack, SMith, Jackson, Johnson, and Goldman. Plus with Wilson, mooney, slayton, and kmet we'd have a really good to great offense.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1495 » by nitetrain8603 » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:29 am

If I'm the Bears, I'd lock up a couple of tackles tbh while everyone is waiting on the QB situation. That still has a ways to go IMO. The tackles, regardless of QB, you need to get no matter what. With KC cutting both of their OLineman, I would go after that. I know Fischer tore his ACL, but I believe he will make a full recovery.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1496 » by MalagaBulls » Fri Mar 12, 2021 6:15 am

I want a franchise QB as much as the next guy but a really overlooked issue with Watson is his injury history to date. 2 ACL tears (1 on each knee) is something to ponder.

Dec 25, 2019 - NFL Back Lower Lumbar SprainWatson with back injury was listed as limited participant ahead of the Week 17 game against the Titans. He was active and served as the backup to AJ McCarron in the contest

Nov 2, 2017 - NFLKnee ACL Tear Grade 3Watson tore his right ACL in practice.

Nov 20, 2014 - Non-NFL Knee ACL Tear Grade 3. Watson suffered a torn left ACL in practice. He played with the injury vs. South Carolina on 11/29/14.

Nov 15, 2014 - Non-NFL Knee LCL Sprain Grade 2. Watson suffered a sprained left LCL vs. Georgia Tech.

Oct 11, 2014 - Non-NFL Hand Finger Fracture. Watson sat out 3 games before returning vs. Georgia Tech.

Apr 7, 2014 - Non-NFL Shoulder Clavicle Fracture. Watson sustained a slight crack in his collarbone during a spring scrimmage
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1497 » by MalagaBulls » Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:35 pm

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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1498 » by Susan » Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:08 pm

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Makes sense why everything went nuts on Wednesday night. DBB was really dialed in during the Bears coaching search for Nagy and if I remember correctly he had Juan Castillo coming here as our OLine coach last year.
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1499 » by ThisGuyFawkes » Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:03 pm

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Makes sense why everything went nuts on Wednesday night. DBB was really dialed in during the Bears coaching search for Nagy and if I remember correctly he had Juan Castillo coming here as our OLine coach last year.


I can't watch/listen to this right now (at work). What is the gist?
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Re: Bears 2019/20; George McCaskey is on the clock 

Post#1500 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:40 pm

Things are getting interesting. I'm either going to be very excited this coming season or very disappointed. There's no in-between for me now.

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