Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season

[2weekswithpay]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

[RSP83]

Wow... the Magic just undo the trade win they did with the Bulls for Vuc.

4 Unprotected FRPs + Cole Anthony (young role player) + KCP (veteran role player) for fringe All-Star Desmond Bane? And last year same thing with Mikal Bridges? What's going on with the trade logic? Am I missing something here?

Congrats to the Grizzlies btw. This is the type of deal I was hoping we got for Zach Lavine, and I know that it's unrealistic. But this makes sense for Desmond Bane? How?

EDIT: there goes my dream of signing JJJ here. With Bane's contract off the book, they're going to extend JJJ easy and continue to build through the draft. Probably the insurance they're looking for in case they decide to part way with Ja.

[aguifs]

4 unprotected.... Jeez

[PaKii94]

Lololol at the Bane overpay but Lavine is blah. Without the homer glasses you'll see a one dimensional on ball scorer who is deficient in everything else (including off ball scoring) , plays no defense, and is the losingest player in the NBA

[kodo]

EDIT: there goes my dream of signing JJJ here. With Bane's contract off the book, they're going to extend JJJ easy and continue to build through the draft. Probably the insurance they're looking for in case they decide to part way with Ja.

KC said the deals with Zach were severely limited because the Bulls wanted no salary coming back. KCP + Cole is $35M until 2027.
What a terrible deal for Orlando. Bane was terrible in the playoffs as well, 15 ppg on 31%/21% shooting.

But yeah, just more evidence on how bad the Lavine return was, especially assuming we let all three of Huerter/Collins/Tre just leave in FA.

[burlydee]

Feels like franchise malpractice by Orlando. Just an intense overpay that may mess up the market.

Orlando is basically betting they have a championship roster in the East now. They are all in.

[TheSuzerain]

We should have traded Coby to ORL

[Hangtime84]

We should have traded Coby to ORL

they want to keep flexibility but yes i agree. I guess we going for JJJ next off season.

[Dan Z]

We should have traded Coby to ORL

I wonder what Orlando would have offered for him...? I imagine it'd be less than what they gave up for Bane, which is one reason why I think they should've offered it.

However, I don't think AK wants to trade Coby.

[Indomitable]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

[sco]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

I really like Bane. He is about as good as it gets as an off-ball shooter/scorer who is decent at defense. I question if we could have put an offer on the table to match the ORL deal. I think the most I would have gone was Coby plus 12 plus Por 1st plus filler.

Look, when teams feel they have their big 2, they'll do those 4-5 1st round picks to get their last piece. It certainly puts ORL way ahead of us now.

[Indomitable]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

I really like Bane. He is about as good as it gets as an off-ball shooter/scorer who is decent at defense. I question if we could have put an offer on the table to match the ORL deal. I think the most I would have gone was Coby plus 12 plus Por 1st plus filler.

Look, when teams feel they have their big 2, they'll do those 4-5 1st round picks to get their last piece. It certainly puts ORL way ahead of us now.

I did not want Bane. I am glad he went to ORL.

That was a terrible trade. Too many future assets.

[sco]

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

I really like Bane. He is about as good as it gets as an off-ball shooter/scorer who is decent at defense. I question if we could have put an offer on the table to match the ORL deal. I think the most I would have gone was Coby plus 12 plus Por 1st plus filler.

Look, when teams feel they have their big 2, they'll do those 4-5 1st round picks to get their last piece. It certainly puts ORL way ahead of us now.

I did not want Bane. I am glad he went to ORL.

That was a terrible trade. Too many future assets.

It was a lot, but none of those 1sts figure to be better than late lotto's, but I said the same when we traded Vuc, so you never know.

[2weekswithpay]

Bane is better than Zach and has been for 2 seasons now. He also makes a bit less than Zach.

No he was not

Zach shot better last season
Zach was a much better 3 pt percentage
Zach scored more and is a more natural shooter.

Bane is younger.
https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?player_id2=lavinza01&year_min=2025&player_id1=banede01&seasons_type=forall&request=1&utm_source=bbr&utm_id=banede01&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_medium=sr_xsite

Zach is a better volume scorer, but that's it. Bane is the superior passer and playmaker, turns the ball over less, is a better rebounder, and is the better defender.

Spoiler:

[HomoSapien]

Bane is probably better overall than Coby but maybe that's helped set his trade market a bit. Maybe two firsts are possible for him.

[Dez]

I really like Bane. He is about as good as it gets as an off-ball shooter/scorer who is decent at defense. I question if we could have put an offer on the table to match the ORL deal. I think the most I would have gone was Coby plus 12 plus Por 1st plus filler.

Look, when teams feel they have their big 2, they'll do those 4-5 1st round picks to get their last piece. It certainly puts ORL way ahead of us now.

I did not want Bane. I am glad he went to ORL.

That was a terrible trade. Too many future assets.

It was a lot, but none of those 1sts figure to be better than late lotto's, but I said the same when we traded Vuc, so you never know.

They gave up a '26 Suns pick, they are going to be ass.

[sco]

I did not want Bane. I am glad he went to ORL.

That was a terrible trade. Too many future assets.

It was a lot, but none of those 1sts figure to be better than late lotto's, but I said the same when we traded Vuc, so you never know.

They gave up a '26 Suns pick, they are going to be ass.

I heard that there were certain protections such that it wouldn't convey if was a good pick.

[Dez]

It was a lot, but none of those 1sts figure to be better than late lotto's, but I said the same when we traded Vuc, so you never know.

They gave up a '26 Suns pick, they are going to be ass.

I heard that there were certain protections such that it wouldn't convey if was a good pick.

It 100 percent conveys, there's just a convoluted series of swaps but it'll still be a good pick.

[dumbell78]

Yeah, that Orlando trade screams as an overpay and I get it, but we have to factor in a few things:

-Orlando is small market team that has an awful time attracting any FA to come join the Disney party.
-I'm too lazy to look it up but Orlando is probably one of the worst 3-pt shooting teams in the NBA, maybe the worst? Bane is a knock down >40% 3 pt shooter. They sure do brick a lot of open 3's.
-The KDP signing was AWFUL, owed 22 mil per over 2 years. You have to figure one pick is just to eat that contract.
-Bane is 26, he's an AS/fringe AS player. 20/5/5 guy. Always flirting with the 50/40/90 line, 60% TS, solid D.
-East is wide open.

I get the reasoning for Orlando. IMO the only picks that may hurt is the PHX 2026 and whatever the hell can happen in 2030.

[nomorezorro]

yeah i think it's understated how much moving off KCP factored into that deal. orlando basically couldn't do anything this significant without shedding that contract and i doubt there were many teams eager to take it on