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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1501 » by DASMACKDOWN » Sat Dec 5, 2020 7:54 pm

I hope this is the last week we ever mention Boylens name around the Bulls in media. Move on guys.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1502 » by Ccwatercraft » Sat Dec 5, 2020 9:22 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:I hope this is the last week we ever mention Boylens name around the Bulls in media. Move on guys.


Are we allowed to mention Boylan occasionally?
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1503 » by troza » Sat Dec 5, 2020 10:58 pm

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R3AL1TY wrote:The shortened season turned out to be an advantage for the Lakers. Lebron wasn't burnt out and AD wasn't on the injured list as much. I also wonder how the outcome of things would have been if there were still a crowd and traveling element for the games. But I agree. They should still be a top team and I'm sure the league will push them for viewership again. They already have them playing the Clippers 3 times in two weeks at the beginning of the season.


Lebron rests a lot during the regular season. So I doubt that we will see some kind of those injuries because he will stop at the minimum worry.

And let's not forget how less physical the league is compared to other times.

I'm pretty sure that they know that the playoffs is what matters and that home court advantage isn't the big deal.

With 2 of the best 5 players in the NBA (and great veteran presence there) I'm pretty sure that they will win another title sooner or later.

Not that I like this scenario but the Warriors and Rockets are going downhill (the two top contender before last year)... one to bad moves and other to injuries. The Spurs are finally out of top contenders phase, the Clippers will be the Clippers (funny thing... Leonard tried to be like Lebron but forced the team to give up everything for Paul George... if we think about it, the Heat didn't give that much for any of them and neither did the Cavs for Kevin Love... The Lakers gave a lot for the best center in the NBA... that's a big difference) and with Lue I don't really know... Bucks are good but only have one top 5 players, the Nets have to many interrogation points (how will Durant play when he is back, how will Irving and Durant play together... what is the rest of the team... and if everything goes right... who will stop Davis?), Miami doesn't even have a top 5 player in the NBA and let's see if they are able to keep some momentum... but major underdogs against the majority of the other teams... I don't know.

Again... I liked that the Raptors won but Durant forcing to play in the finals and Durant wanting out of the Warriors for stupid reasons is somehow what allows the Lakers to be the top contender right now. We must give credit to Lebron... he is doing this way better than anyone out there. Mainly Leonard and Durant that made their decisions in stupid ways instead of just focusing on rings.
To give LeBron credit, resting hasn't been his approach lately, especially since he is chasing Kareem's total points stats. Kawhi has solely become the poser boy for load management now. The last time LeBron intentionally rested was due to his groin injury in the 2018-2019 season where he felt the Lakers couldn't make the 8th seed.


He doesn't do a lot of load management (although he rarely plays all 82 games) but he coasts a lot during regular season.

So yeah... he will stop if his health is at risk. And he should do that.

Not like MJ when he got back to the Wizards, training like a maniac to get back the time lost with the 3 years away and the broken ribs... as a result he was suffering with injuries all season and it might be the reason why he tore his meniscus (or whatever stupid injury he got with he crashed against a teammate in a game versus the Kings) during the season.


So... I don't like Lebron and his fans, but the guys is super smart doing the right thing for his career.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1504 » by dice » Sun Dec 6, 2020 1:56 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
troza wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:The shortened season turned out to be an advantage for the Lakers. Lebron wasn't burnt out and AD wasn't on the injured list as much. I also wonder how the outcome of things would have been if there were still a crowd and traveling element for the games. But I agree. They should still be a top team and I'm sure the league will push them for viewership again. They already have them playing the Clippers 3 times in two weeks at the beginning of the season.


Lebron rests a lot during the regular season. So I doubt that we will see some kind of those injuries because he will stop at the minimum worry.

And let's not forget how less physical the league is compared to other times.

I'm pretty sure that they know that the playoffs is what matters and that home court advantage isn't the big deal.

With 2 of the best 5 players in the NBA (and great veteran presence there) I'm pretty sure that they will win another title sooner or later.

Not that I like this scenario but the Warriors and Rockets are going downhill (the two top contender before last year)... one to bad moves and other to injuries. The Spurs are finally out of top contenders phase, the Clippers will be the Clippers (funny thing... Leonard tried to be like Lebron but forced the team to give up everything for Paul George... if we think about it, the Heat didn't give that much for any of them and neither did the Cavs for Kevin Love... The Lakers gave a lot for the best center in the NBA... that's a big difference) and with Lue I don't really know... Bucks are good but only have one top 5 players, the Nets have to many interrogation points (how will Durant play when he is back, how will Irving and Durant play together... what is the rest of the team... and if everything goes right... who will stop Davis?), Miami doesn't even have a top 5 player in the NBA and let's see if they are able to keep some momentum... but major underdogs against the majority of the other teams... I don't know.

Again... I liked that the Raptors won but Durant forcing to play in the finals and Durant wanting out of the Warriors for stupid reasons is somehow what allows the Lakers to be the top contender right now. We must give credit to Lebron... he is doing this way better than anyone out there. Mainly Leonard and Durant that made their decisions in stupid ways instead of just focusing on rings.
To give LeBron credit, resting hasn't been his approach lately, especially since he is chasing Kareem's total points stats. Kawhi has solely become the poser boy for load management now. The last time LeBron intentionally rested was due to his groin injury in the 2018-2019 season where he felt the Lakers couldn't make the 8th seed.

if he took time off less than 2 years ago, obviously kareem's record isn't a priority for him...not to mention leading the league in assists this past season. career low in MPG too
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Tim Thomas 

Post#1505 » by MrSparkle » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:15 am

Pretty random, but stumbled upon this Tim Thomas interview. Q and D basically run the best b-ball podcast. Their interviews tell-all; go into such random detail and memories. So I clicked this one knowing the Bulls were gonna come up. Didn't talk too long, but he does discuss FO, Skiles, etc. around 25-30 min. At 35:00 he wraps up - did not disappoint. Apparently GarPaxSkiles were doing psychological tests on players. LOL

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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1506 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:44 am

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R3AL1TY wrote:
troza wrote:
Lebron rests a lot during the regular season. So I doubt that we will see some kind of those injuries because he will stop at the minimum worry.

And let's not forget how less physical the league is compared to other times.

I'm pretty sure that they know that the playoffs is what matters and that home court advantage isn't the big deal.

With 2 of the best 5 players in the NBA (and great veteran presence there) I'm pretty sure that they will win another title sooner or later.

Not that I like this scenario but the Warriors and Rockets are going downhill (the two top contender before last year)... one to bad moves and other to injuries. The Spurs are finally out of top contenders phase, the Clippers will be the Clippers (funny thing... Leonard tried to be like Lebron but forced the team to give up everything for Paul George... if we think about it, the Heat didn't give that much for any of them and neither did the Cavs for Kevin Love... The Lakers gave a lot for the best center in the NBA... that's a big difference) and with Lue I don't really know... Bucks are good but only have one top 5 players, the Nets have to many interrogation points (how will Durant play when he is back, how will Irving and Durant play together... what is the rest of the team... and if everything goes right... who will stop Davis?), Miami doesn't even have a top 5 player in the NBA and let's see if they are able to keep some momentum... but major underdogs against the majority of the other teams... I don't know.

Again... I liked that the Raptors won but Durant forcing to play in the finals and Durant wanting out of the Warriors for stupid reasons is somehow what allows the Lakers to be the top contender right now. We must give credit to Lebron... he is doing this way better than anyone out there. Mainly Leonard and Durant that made their decisions in stupid ways instead of just focusing on rings.
To give LeBron credit, resting hasn't been his approach lately, especially since he is chasing Kareem's total points stats. Kawhi has solely become the poser boy for load management now. The last time LeBron intentionally rested was due to his groin injury in the 2018-2019 season where he felt the Lakers couldn't make the 8th seed.

if he took time off less than 2 years ago, obviously kareem's record isn't a priority for him...not to mention leading the league in assists this past season. career low in MPG too

Well, it was related to him giving more rest to his groin at the time since he injured it not too long before that. But just a season before that in Cleveland, he played all 82 games. He's even on record saying he'll be lying if passing Kareem isn't a goal of his.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1507 » by TheStig » Sun Dec 6, 2020 4:51 am

Ccwatercraft wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:I hope this is the last week we ever mention Boylens name around the Bulls in media. Move on guys.


Are we allowed to mention Boylan occasionally?

What are you guys talking about? I can't believe him and his time clock are still out of work!
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1508 » by dice » Sun Dec 6, 2020 6:12 am

R3AL1TY wrote:
dice wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:To give LeBron credit, resting hasn't been his approach lately, especially since he is chasing Kareem's total points stats. Kawhi has solely become the poser boy for load management now. The last time LeBron intentionally rested was due to his groin injury in the 2018-2019 season where he felt the Lakers couldn't make the 8th seed.

if he took time off less than 2 years ago, obviously kareem's record isn't a priority for him...not to mention leading the league in assists this past season. career low in MPG too

Well, it was related to him giving more rest to his groin at the time since he injured it not too long before that. But just a season before that in Cleveland, he played all 82 games. He's even on record saying he'll be lying if passing Kareem isn't a goal of his.

there's a big difference between a goal and a priority. he'll sit regular season games if he thinks it improves his chance of winning titles
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1509 » by R3AL1TY » Sun Dec 6, 2020 7:41 am

dice wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:
dice wrote:if he took time off less than 2 years ago, obviously kareem's record isn't a priority for him...not to mention leading the league in assists this past season. career low in MPG too

Well, it was related to him giving more rest to his groin at the time since he injured it not too long before that. But just a season before that in Cleveland, he played all 82 games. He's even on record saying he'll be lying if passing Kareem isn't a goal of his.

there's a big difference between a goal and a priority. he'll sit regular season games if he thinks it improves his chance of winning titles
I agree there is a difference, but if he sees both in his reach, who wouldn't want it all on their plate?
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1510 » by troza » Sun Dec 6, 2020 3:09 pm

R3AL1TY wrote:
dice wrote:
R3AL1TY wrote:Well, it was related to him giving more rest to his groin at the time since he injured it not too long before that. But just a season before that in Cleveland, he played all 82 games. He's even on record saying he'll be lying if passing Kareem isn't a goal of his.

there's a big difference between a goal and a priority. he'll sit regular season games if he thinks it improves his chance of winning titles
I agree there is a difference, but if he sees both in his reach, who wouldn't want it all on their plate?


Betting on longevity is understanding that a couple of games out in one season might mean a couple of more seasons. 2 games vs... let's say around 140 regular season games.

I guess that the second looks much better for that record than the first.
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Re: Tim Thomas 

Post#1511 » by Michael Jackson » Sun Dec 6, 2020 6:36 pm

MrSparkle wrote:Pretty random, but stumbled upon this Tim Thomas interview. Q and D basically run the best b-ball podcast. Their interviews tell-all; go into such random detail and memories. So I clicked this one knowing the Bulls were gonna come up. Didn't go into too much detail (mentions the FO, Skiles, etc. around 25-30 min). At 35:00 he wraps up - did not disappoint. Apparently GarPaxSkiles were doing psychological tests on players. LOL




I had no idea this podcast existed! I am going to check this out. So Q and D Miles are good behind the mic? That’s super cool. This episode, man I bet Darius has something to say about the bulls “tests”.
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Post#1512 » by MrSparkle » Sun Dec 6, 2020 6:48 pm

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MrSparkle wrote:Pretty random, but stumbled upon this Tim Thomas interview. Q and D basically run the best b-ball podcast. Their interviews tell-all; go into such random detail and memories. So I clicked this one knowing the Bulls were gonna come up. Didn't go into too much detail (mentions the FO, Skiles, etc. around 25-30 min). At 35:00 he wraps up - did not disappoint. Apparently GarPaxSkiles were doing psychological tests on players. LOL




I had no idea this podcast existed! I am going to check this out. So Q and D Miles are good behind the mic? That’s super cool. This episode, man I bet Darius has something to say about the bulls “tests”.


Yep. They all took a jab and had a laugh at the Bulls culture at that time. Identifying pictures of trees and what not.

Q/D are great. I’ve been listening since last year. It’s nice because they’re Chicago HS circuit guys, so there’s a home-town perspective. Plus they are in that fascinating prep-phenom/pro-disappointment-became-journeymen category. They have a good relationship with all the superstars but also the “busts.” Gives a good perspective on everybody, and a good perspective on these talented “busts”, especially in that era where there really wasn’t an established culture of properly integrating 18yos into NBA life.

Their Eddy Curry / Nate Robinson interview is great for Bulls fans. They also did Kobe in Dec. last year - chilling and sad, kinda surreal, I watched it after the accident but very strong insight. Honestly, I watch these and end up liking guys I generally didn’t care for (Shaq, Wade, Arenas, etc., including Kobe).
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1513 » by ImSlower » Mon Dec 7, 2020 9:32 pm

I don't care that James Harden is really good at generating points. I am so, so glad he is not on my team. Out clubbing like a petulant kid flicking his parents off to go smoke cigarettes in the alley. Hasn't even spoken to the Rockets new coach. Refusing to report. I hope he does get traded to the Nets, and both franchises suffer for it.
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Post#1514 » by Andi Obst » Mon Dec 7, 2020 9:36 pm

The way Stephen Silas talks about Harden's absence makes me think the inevitable trade will come pretty soon. While he's not saying anything wrong, it's just not how you would talk about a superstar who you want to convince that the Rockets are still the right team for him.

I don't think this relationship is salvageable and the Rockets know it.
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Re: Around The NBA 

Post#1515 » by jmajew » Mon Dec 7, 2020 10:10 pm

Little Nathan wrote:The way Stephen Silas talks about Harden's absence makes me think the inevitable trade will come pretty soon. While he's not saying anything wrong, it's just not how you would talk about a superstar who you want to convince that the Rockets are still the right team for him.

I don't think this relationship is salvageable and the Rockets know it.


I hope he does get traded. I hope he gets traded to a place like Sacramento. He shouldn't be rewarded for his actions and be traded to where he wants.

Kings in: Harden and Eric Gordon.
Rockets in: Buddy Hield, Harrison Barnes, and Corey Joseph.
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Post#1516 » by ZOMG » Mon Dec 7, 2020 10:13 pm

Little Nathan wrote:The way Stephen Silas talks about Harden's absence makes me think the inevitable trade will come pretty soon. While he's not saying anything wrong, it's just not how you would talk about a superstar who you want to convince that the Rockets are still the right team for him.

I don't think this relationship is salvageable and the Rockets know it.


Yup. Silas is just saying something meaningless and neutral because he can't come out and say "F this dude".

Harden is as good as gone.
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Post#1518 » by MGB8 » Tue Dec 8, 2020 2:27 am

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Little Nathan wrote:The way Stephen Silas talks about Harden's absence makes me think the inevitable trade will come pretty soon. While he's not saying anything wrong, it's just not how you would talk about a superstar who you want to convince that the Rockets are still the right team for him.

I don't think this relationship is salvageable and the Rockets know it.


I hope he does get traded. I hope he gets traded to a place like Sacramento. He shouldn't be rewarded for his actions and be traded to where he wants.

Kings in: Harden and Eric Gordon.
Rockets in: Buddy Hield, Harrison Barnes, and Corey Joseph.


That would never happen - it would damage Houston’s reputation among players.

Most natural destination was the 76ers for a package built around Simmons, but with Wall, hard to see the fit. An offer buy the Bulls based around LaVine might be the next best thing that is realistically possible. Going to the Knicks for RJ Barrett and draft capital might work in theory but Thibs and Harden? Not to mention a very bare cupboard given the pieces they would need to send for salary. LAC for PG and Lou? Or the ever present Levert-Dinwiddie-Allen-Prince offer...
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