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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1501 » by LateNight » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:25 pm

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You would be wrong.

I admit I don't regularly watch Duke (because I hate them), but that aside, I can only go based on he video highlights I've seen. He sure looks slow in those...don't see him able to get out and guard on the perimeter and I see guys regularly getting by him (but his length allows him to block shots at the rim). Are you saying Edey has quick feet? What about Clingon? He doesn't look quicker than either of those guys. He sure as sh*t doesn't look anything like a Wemby (not that you were comparing him).


With a plus-four-inch wingspan, he has the length to anchor a defense. While most slower-footed big men are limited to the paint, Maluach has the foot speed and mobility to stretch his defensive dominance to the perimeter.

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/khaman-maluach-scouting-report

Furthermore, his foot speed and lateral quickness allow him to defend well in space. Both near the rim and out to the perimeter, the Duke big is able to make plays. Especially in the pick-and-roll, he will really have a chance to be disruptive in the NBA with how frequently offensive sets are predicated around that type of action.

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-duke-s-khaman-maluach

Let us start with the obvious: Khaman Maluach is a very large person who also moves very well on their feet. Assuming even a fairly low baseline of instincts and technical proficiency, that has value. And Maluach’s instincts and technique have been improving…rapidly.

https://theswishtheory.com/scouting-reports/khaman-maluach/



Moot point since we’ll be picking 14-16
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1502 » by Jcool0 » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:27 pm

LateNight wrote:
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sco wrote:I admit I don't regularly watch Duke (because I hate them), but that aside, I can only go based on he video highlights I've seen. He sure looks slow in those...don't see him able to get out and guard on the perimeter and I see guys regularly getting by him (but his length allows him to block shots at the rim). Are you saying Edey has quick feet? What about Clingon? He doesn't look quicker than either of those guys. He sure as sh*t doesn't look anything like a Wemby (not that you were comparing him).


With a plus-four-inch wingspan, he has the length to anchor a defense. While most slower-footed big men are limited to the paint, Maluach has the foot speed and mobility to stretch his defensive dominance to the perimeter.

https://edemirnba.substack.com/p/khaman-maluach-scouting-report

Furthermore, his foot speed and lateral quickness allow him to defend well in space. Both near the rim and out to the perimeter, the Duke big is able to make plays. Especially in the pick-and-roll, he will really have a chance to be disruptive in the NBA with how frequently offensive sets are predicated around that type of action.

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/prospect-profiles/nba-draft-scouting-report-duke-s-khaman-maluach

Let us start with the obvious: Khaman Maluach is a very large person who also moves very well on their feet. Assuming even a fairly low baseline of instincts and technical proficiency, that has value. And Maluach’s instincts and technique have been improving…rapidly.

https://theswishtheory.com/scouting-reports/khaman-maluach/



Moot point since we’ll be picking 14-16


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1503 » by MrSparkle » Tue Mar 18, 2025 9:39 pm

I see Queen moving into the top-10, as he'll demonstrate his awesome on-ball skills and IQ in draft workouts. IMO he's not going to shoot 3Ps, defend the rim and switch onto guards, so common sense says at best he'll be a 1-way star like Sabonis, Demar, Paolo... maybe Sengun... Very talented, but limited... I'd say Edey's move into the top-10 and half-success (slow rookie year but he's been impactful in small minutes) is a case for NCAAB bigs getting back into the top of the draft.

OTOH, I'm so tired of poor rim protection. It's a blatant disadvantage in the NBA unless you have Jokic - quite simply the most bizarre, skilled and lucky superstar of all time, along with a few other athletic weirdos (Bird). I say lucky, because on top of everything, he's managed to have a very healthy career as a 300 lb. 7-footer, and he does work hard on the defensive end considering his limitations (he permanently stopped being a sieve the year before he won a ring).

I see the Bulls staying at #11, if not dropping to 12 with another team's luck or Mavs falling harder. Don't see how we don't lap all the teams waiving white flags.

I see a bust risk with Malauch, but at the same time, these hyper rim runners are proving to actually be safe picks, so long they're not injury prone or bone-headed. Miami seems happy with their Ware pick. Granted he had a bigger offensive role in college, but to me it's an advantage having a lower usage C, unless they lose the ball every time it comes near them. But that's not the case with Khaman! He makes the simple plays. The FT% is strong, and the TS% is insane. But alas, I think he'll go top-8.
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Post#1506 » by Guru » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:58 am

Any Maxime Raynaud thoughts. Big who can shoot 3s
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Post#1507 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:21 am

Queen, Maluach, Denim or Aswell

I’m good with any of em in our range
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Post#1508 » by Rose2Boozer » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:54 am

The Spurs and Derik Queen is a match made in heaven. Queen is already better than Jeremy Sochan, or he can be their first big off the bench. Wemby would pretty much neutralize whatever problems Queen may have on defense.
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Post#1509 » by WesPeace » Wed Mar 19, 2025 8:08 am

Rose2Boozer wrote:The Spurs and Derik Queen is a match made in heaven. Queen is already better than Jeremy Sochan, or he can be their first big off the bench. Wemby would pretty much neutralize whatever problems Queen may have on defense.


How are Sochan and Queen even in same sentence for comparison?? Different players and positions..
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1510 » by DuckIII » Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:15 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Queen, Maluach, Denim or Aswell

I’m good with any of em in our range


Demin has become much maligned and for good reason, but as we continue to slide in the draft he’s the type of more unique prospect I will be interested in. Could fiddle around with some different things with guys like Ball, Giddey and Demin who are all wizards with passing the ball.

I’m also getting more intrigued by Will Riley as our draft position slips and he starts showing way more game than he had the first half of his freshman year.
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Post#1511 » by Dan Z » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:34 pm

I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?
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Post#1512 » by Jcool0 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:40 pm

Dan Z wrote:I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?


Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.
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Post#1513 » by Guru » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:45 pm

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Dan Z wrote:I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?


Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.


Im not sure he's undersized, very long arms, and incredible length.

I think it's his offensive style that is the issue, that has a ceiling.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1514 » by Jcool0 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 2:52 pm

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Dan Z wrote:I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?


Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.


Im not sure he's undersized, very long arms, and incredible length.

I think it's his offensive style that is the issue, that has a ceiling.


He is listed at 6'9" could be closer to 6'8" when tested. Good athlete but not sure he can play the 3. He is a good defender, will get rebounds and can hit the 3.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1515 » by LateNight » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:13 pm

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Dan Z wrote:I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?


Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.


We need to stop valuing youth so much.

Jordan was 21 during his rookie season. Kenyon Martin was 22. Pat Williams was 18. Age isnt the most important factor
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Post#1516 » by Jcool0 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:20 pm

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Dan Z wrote:I looked up Rasheer Fleming. He seems like an interesting prospect who has good numbers...why isn't he ranked higher?


Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.


We need to stop valuing youth so much.

Jordan was 21 during his rookie season. Kenyon Martin was 22. Pat Williams was 18. Age isnt the most important factor


So your examples are the GOAT drafted in 1984 & Kenyon Martin a 1x All Star who had a career average of 12.3/6.8?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1517 » by LateNight » Wed Mar 19, 2025 3:41 pm

Jcool0 wrote:
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Undersized PF who will be 21 during his rookie year playing at a small school.


We need to stop valuing youth so much.

Jordan was 21 during his rookie season. Kenyon Martin was 22. Pat Williams was 18. Age isnt the most important factor


So your examples are the GOAT drafted in 1984 & Kenyon Martin a 1x All Star who had a career average of 12.3/6.8?


Yes.

It was anecdotal and they’re examples. I think drafting people lower because they are over 20 is dumb.

If Rasheer Fleming is better than the people ahead of him, draft Rasheer Fleming.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospects 

Post#1518 » by Jcool0 » Wed Mar 19, 2025 4:39 pm

LateNight wrote:
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We need to stop valuing youth so much.

Jordan was 21 during his rookie season. Kenyon Martin was 22. Pat Williams was 18. Age isnt the most important factor


So your examples are the GOAT drafted in 1984 & Kenyon Martin a 1x All Star who had a career average of 12.3/6.8?


Yes.

It was anecdotal and they’re examples. I think drafting people lower because they are over 20 is dumb.

If Rasheer Fleming is better than the people ahead of him, draft Rasheer Fleming.


Dalton Knecht was a top 10 talent who went 17th because of his age. You dont have to like it. But its how things are.
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Post#1519 » by dawhizz » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:12 pm

Guru wrote:Queen reminds me a lot of Jalen Smith actually, probably with a higher ceiling...much higher?


That’s funny because I watched some highlights of him today and to be honest he looked like Vuc to me. I’m sure I’m wrong and that’s based on small sample size,but just based on the post moves, occasional 3s, spot up shooting, etc. that’s the vibe I got.
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Post#1520 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Mar 19, 2025 5:34 pm

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NecessaryEvil wrote:Queen, Maluach, Denim or Aswell

I’m good with any of em in our range


Demin has become much maligned and for good reason, but as we continue to slide in the draft he’s the type of more unique prospect I will be interested in. Could fiddle around with some different things with guys like Ball, Giddey and Demin who are all wizards with passing the ball.

I’m also getting more intrigued by Will Riley as our draft position slips and he starts showing way more game than he had the first half of his freshman year.


I feel like Egor might end up one of the best players from this draft when it’s all said and done. Unique skillset. He’d flourish in Chicago, I’m sure of it

I don’t know much about Will Riley. Will look into his tape.

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