2018 draft 3.0. #7, #22 - Merged

Indomitable · Post #1521 » by **Indomitable** » Thu May 31, 2018 1:50 am

3noD wrote:
holv03 wrote:
FecesOfDeath wrote:Is Michael Porter Jr. becoming the next Shabazz Muhammad? Same HS hype, similar college disappointment, and then going from Top 3 to late lottery.

Not at all like Shabaxz. Muhammad played a full season in college while Porter didn't get the chance to and when he came back he wasn't 100% yet. I could see Porter being a star.

The concerning thing about Porter is that he’s developed a hitch on his shot. What’s this about? We don’t want Fultz 2.0

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What hitch

JohnnyKILLroy · Post #1522 » by **JohnnyKILLroy** » Thu May 31, 2018 1:59 am

Trae Young was doing defensive slides at his pro day, supposedly a 1st at this type of setting.

What a tool.

holv03 · Post #1523 » by **holv03** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:01 am

Indomitable wrote:
3noD wrote:
holv03 wrote:
Not at all like Shabaxz. Muhammad played a full season in college while Porter didn't get the chance to and when he came back he wasn't 100% yet. I could see Porter being a star.

The concerning thing about Porter is that he’s developed a hitch on his shot. What’s this about? We don’t want Fultz 2.0

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What hitch

Are we making things up now? Porter Jr doesn't have a hitch on his shot. He had just came back from back surgery and he wasn't at 100%.

bad knees · Post #1524 » by **bad knees** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:08 am

holv03 wrote:
Indomitable wrote:
3noD wrote:The concerning thing about Porter is that he’s developed a hitch on his shot. What’s this about? We don’t want Fultz 2.0

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What hitch

Are we making things up now? Porter Jr doesn't have a hitch on his shot. He had just came back from back surgery and he wasn't at 100%.

On ESPN's draft show last night, Seth Greenberg suggested that Porter now has a hitch in his shot post surgery (not clear what this conclusion is based on).

JimmyJammer · Post #1525 » by **JimmyJammer** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:15 am

holv03 wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:
Truebiscuit wrote:
Hmm. Isn't this basically announcing to the NBA who we are looking at with our pick?

This is totally opposite of what Chicago has done since Gar was named GM.

I am surprised by this. Doug Collins influence?

John Paxson is running the show now. Gar might be the GM but Paxson is making the decisions.

I call this a smokescreen because Porter is obviously their guy.

NecessaryEvil · Post #1526 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:41 am

Mo Bamba is no smokescreen. If you can land him, you get him.

MPJ or Bamba, Pax sees it the same way I do

8-)

NDave79 · Post #1527 » by **NDave79** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:41 am

JimmyJammer wrote:
holv03 wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:
This is totally opposite of what Chicago has done since Gar was named GM.

I am surprised by this. Doug Collins influence?

John Paxson is running the show now. Gar might be the GM but Paxson is making the decisions.

I call this a smokescreen because Porter is obviously their guy.

Unless Porter is a smokescreen. You never really know with this team. They seem to catch us off guard every draft.

They have always seemed to play the misdirection game quite well imo.

Jcool0 · Post #1528 » by **Jcool0** » Thu May 31, 2018 2:57 am

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Aladdin · Post #1529 » by **Aladdin** » Thu May 31, 2018 3:32 am

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WindyCityBorn · Post #1530 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Thu May 31, 2018 3:45 am

jnrjr79 wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
RedBulls23 wrote:What he's saying makes perfect sense. It's about adding more draft picks. Not losing the ones they have just to move up considering the cash they will be taking back.

I don't really value #22 at all so I guess that's why I'm meh. Will be lucky if we get a contributor there.

You're far from guaranteed to get a contributor at 22, but it's certainly not so unlikely you shouldn't give it any value.

In the last 10 years, the Bulls have had a first round pick at 22 or later 4 times. Those picks turned into Bobby Portis, Marquis Teague, Jimmy Butler, and Taj Gibson. That's a hell of a hit rate!

And now people talk about Porter like disposable trash. So what's the point drafting players that develop into very solid contributors if you want to dump them as soon as their rookie contract ends?

holv03 · Post #1531 » by **holv03** » Thu May 31, 2018 4:23 am

JimmyJammer wrote:
holv03 wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:
This is totally opposite of what Chicago has done since Gar was named GM.

I am surprised by this. Doug Collins influence?

John Paxson is running the show now. Gar might be the GM but Paxson is making the decisions.

I call this a smokescreen because Porter is obviously their guy.

Bamba is no smokescreen. Paxson really likes his game from what I know. He's one of the players the Bulls like.

Jahensle · Post #1532 » by **Jahensle** » Thu May 31, 2018 4:27 am

holv03 wrote:
JimmyJammer wrote:
holv03 wrote:
John Paxson is running the show now. Gar might be the GM but Paxson is making the decisions.

I call this a smokescreen because Porter is obviously their guy.

Bamba is no smokescreen. Paxson really likes his game from what I know. He's one of the players the Bulls like.

There's really no way Bamba falls to #7 though, right? I don't see a scenario where we land him, unless we actually move up a couple spots.

League Circles · Post #1533 » by **League Circles** » Thu May 31, 2018 4:29 am

I think I might be settled for now like this:

1. Doncic
2. Ayton
3. JJJ
4. Bamba
5. Carter
6. Miles Bridges
7. Bagley

These are the 7 best players in the draft in this order IMO, so I'll be happy to get any of them.

Jcool0 · Post #1534 » by **Jcool0** » Thu May 31, 2018 4:42 am

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StunnerKO · Post #1535 » by **StunnerKO** » Thu May 31, 2018 4:53 am

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Post #1536 » by **RedBulls23** » Thu May 31, 2018 5:22 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
jnrjr79 wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
I don't really value #22 at all so I guess that's why I'm meh. Will be lucky if we get a contributor there.

You're far from guaranteed to get a contributor at 22, but it's certainly not so unlikely you shouldn't give it any value.

In the last 10 years, the Bulls have had a first round pick at 22 or later 4 times. Those picks turned into Bobby Portis, Marquis Teague, Jimmy Butler, and Taj Gibson. That's a hell of a hit rate!

And now people talk about Porter like disposable trash. So what's the point drafting players that develop into very solid contributors if you want to dump them as soon as their rookie contract ends?

So your arguement is that the Bulls as an organization shouldn't value assets that can net good players, because some people don't appreciate Bobby?

Davell · Post #1537 » by **Davell** » Thu May 31, 2018 5:27 am

Jcool0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Right there. That's why you're on the phone right now, setting the Faried deal up with Denver, for 14.

Post #1538 » by **GimmeDat** » Thu May 31, 2018 6:01 am

That dribble of Zhaire's is kind of tight, I guess, but I don't think in game situation his dribble is shifty or functional. Yet, at least.

Post #1539 » by **RedBulls23** » Thu May 31, 2018 6:39 am

I think the FO should just draft who ever they think is the best player regardless of position. So even if lets say Bagley would drop, he should be the pick. Bulls need top tier talent right now, and if they need to they can always make trades down the line to fill out holes.

Post #1540 » by **kulaz3000** » Thu May 31, 2018 6:42 am

RedBulls23 wrote:I think the FO should just draft who ever they think is the best player regardless of position. So even if lets say Bagley would drop, he should be the pick. Bulls need top tier talent right now, and if they need to they can always make trades down the line to fill out holes.

Agreed, you always pick the player you feel is the best player available, then consider fit later.

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