Bears talk 2.0; Fields era begins for real for real

transplant · Post #1521 » by **transplant** » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:08 pm

Only Virginia, Ed and Ted know the temperatures of Pace's and Nagy's seats. The rest of us are just guessing.

Susan · Post #1522 » by **Susan** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:07 am

fleet wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Goldman assuming there isn’t a huge penalty for doing so. There was a lot of uncertainty about him playing this season and that might continue and he just hasn’t been at the level we’re used too. On top of that Tonga has been great in his role and will only get better

I don’t know the length of his deal, but there is already a lot of dead money going forward, and cutting Goldman would take it to even more insane levels of cap spending with little return. Not that the situation may not come to that if Goldman punts on his career. Oye. The only path right now is to temporarily re-stock the roster with guys on first contracts and minimal salaries. Its going to be a challenge, especially with trader-up guy. And instead of moving quickly forward along with Justin, the Bears may have to tread water for awhile. But yeah, Goldman. And Hicks. A-Rob. Nichols? Basically any Bear or prospective incoming Bear that wants a (sizeable) new deal right now may be SOL. I suspect the most they can possibly do is Roquan. Whitehair wants a deal, but very unlikely atm. Perhaps the Bears will draft Whitehair’s replacement early in this next draft. Bilal maaaybe, but then the Bears are on rice and beans.

If the Bears cut Goldman this offseason, it would all come off the cap for that off-season. Carson Wentz cost the Eagles 33M this year but nothing going forward past 2021.

Less than 3% of the Bears 2022 total salary cap is going towards the down the line restructures that you're obsessed with.

They have 50M free next year. Another 10M more if they cut Foles/Eddie.

bad knees · Post #1523 » by **bad knees** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:30 am

Read on Twitter

patryk7754 · Post #1524 » by **patryk7754** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 5:01 am

Susan wrote:
fleet wrote:
patryk7754 wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if we cut Goldman assuming there isn’t a huge penalty for doing so. There was a lot of uncertainty about him playing this season and that might continue and he just hasn’t been at the level we’re used too. On top of that Tonga has been great in his role and will only get better

I don’t know the length of his deal, but there is already a lot of dead money going forward, and cutting Goldman would take it to even more insane levels of cap spending with little return. Not that the situation may not come to that if Goldman punts on his career. Oye. The only path right now is to temporarily re-stock the roster with guys on first contracts and minimal salaries. Its going to be a challenge, especially with trader-up guy. And instead of moving quickly forward along with Justin, the Bears may have to tread water for awhile. But yeah, Goldman. And Hicks. A-Rob. Nichols? Basically any Bear or prospective incoming Bear that wants a (sizeable) new deal right now may be SOL. I suspect the most they can possibly do is Roquan. Whitehair wants a deal, but very unlikely atm. Perhaps the Bears will draft Whitehair’s replacement early in this next draft. Bilal maaaybe, but then the Bears are on rice and beans.

If the Bears cut Goldman this offseason, it would all come off the cap for that off-season. Carson Wentz cost the Eagles 33M this year but nothing going forward past 2021.

Less than 3% of the Bears 2022 total salary cap is going towards the down the line restructures that you're obsessed with.

They have 50M free next year. Another 10M more if they cut Foles/Eddie.

most of that will have to go to resigning players. I think we'd have less than 30 players under contract

micromonkey · Post #1525 » by **micromonkey** » Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:22 pm

bad knees wrote:

Read on Twitter

Kind of nice to see some stats are backing up our eye test/gut feel on how he's been improving.

It does jive with what I see--he's getting a lot of harder/deeper balls and making them at a good clip.
We have hardly given him anything real easy (dump offs, screens, etc).

IMO most improvement is Fields just getting better and not as much of the Bears making the offense easier for him, minus taking him off the leash on running when Nagy was out.

Imagine actually throwing the ball to our RBs at an even league average rate. I mean I fail to believe only Cohen is capable of catching a pass. Anyway I think with even better play-calling he could look even better. Lots to learn, he's missing some open guys, etc - but still we are seeing something good.

Tetlak · Post #1526 » by **Tetlak** » Tue Nov 16, 2021 4:07 pm

I'm ready for a rebuild.

Fields is starting to build chemistry with Kmet. He obviously already has it with Mooney, and between Monty and Herbert, we look set at RB. We can move on from ARob and see how a line of Teven, Whitehair, Mustipher, Daniels, and Borom does.

On defense, I'm ready to just build around Roquan and Jaylon. I'm not sure if we can trade Jackson and Mack, but that would be ideal. We need to recoup picks and start operating like a smart team.

Susan · Post #1527 » by **Susan** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:13 am

Read on Twitter

lmao just saw on Twitter somebody called him QAaron.

bullsnewdynasty · Post #1528 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:23 am

The Bears are 2 or 3 years away from competing for the playoffs assuming Fields is franchise. If Fields is lucky, Rodgers will be retired or on a different team by then. Otherwise I can't see it happening.

ATRAIN53 · Post #1529 » by **ATRAIN53** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:18 pm

Susan wrote:lmao just saw on Twitter somebody called him QAaron.

LOLZ

#QAaron

OK I've got a name for next Bears coach-

I'm not as hot on the Fire Nagy as everyone else because WHO is out there with playoff success that will help develop Fields?

Doug Pedersen

He's home in FL looking for his next gig. Rusilllo just did a great interview with him.
I knew very little about him but after listening to that this guy piqued my interest.

He's a former player, was on the Packers with Farve, he understands the Bears/Packers rivalry and he's a young in his early 50's. Guy seems to have a lot of charisma and survived the Philly media. He can handle the Chicago media.

Guy wants back in the NFL, he's just waiting for the phone to ring......

Post #1530 » by **dougthonus** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:20 pm

bad knees wrote:

Read on Twitter

I don't know if I know what a single one of these stats mean. Hopefully they are indicative of something, because the Bears offense still blows, Fields has three TDs (2 passing, 1 rushing) vs 2 INTs and 2 Fumbles (0 lost) over that time and has averaged a paltry, by modern NFL standards, 233 yards per game over that stretch. Both games were Bears losses.

I'm not deep into football stats like I am basketball stats, and I got to be honest, I was watching the Bulls on MNF, so missed that game in its entirety. I've been on the throw Fields into the fire and see what you got camp from day 1, but it sure doesn't seem like a whole lot so far. Not panic worthy in his rookie year, maybe these are are signs of real growth from him, but I'd say my confidence went from about 50/50 on whether the Bears solved their QB problem to about 35/65 so far this season. Though statistically, it does look like that last game was his best of the year, and I missed it (no regrets given the Bulls game).

TheSuzerain · Post #1531 » by **TheSuzerain** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:33 pm

Need to devote 100% of assets in the off-season to Fields (and the offense's) success. Every draft pick. Every FA signing. Should be with that in mind.

Don't build up O/D concurrently. Build the O first.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1532 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:44 pm

dougthonus wrote:
bad knees wrote:

Read on Twitter

I don't know if I know what a single one of these stats mean. Hopefully they are indicative of something, because the Bears offense still blows, Fields has three TDs (2 passing, 1 rushing) vs 2 INTs and 2 Fumbles (0 lost) over that time and has averaged a paltry, by modern NFL standards, 233 yards per game over that stretch. Both games were Bears losses.

I'm not deep into football stats like I am basketball stats, and I got to be honest, I was watching the Bulls on MNF, so missed that game in its entirety. I've been on the throw Fields into the fire and see what you got camp from day 1, but it sure doesn't seem like a whole lot so far. Not panic worthy in his rookie year, maybe these are are signs of real growth from him, but I'd say my confidence went from about 50/50 on whether the Bears solved their QB problem to about 35/65 so far this season. Though statistically, it does look like that last game was his best of the year, and I missed it (no regrets given the Bulls game).

I watched both games simultaneously 8-)

. If you don't want to do 2 tv's you can do fubo tv with an apple TV and multi-view it.

Anyways....He definitely is coming along. Makes quicker decisions and more decisive on running when the play breaks down. I've gone from 50/50 to 65/35.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #1533 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:34 pm

Read on Twitter

All timer quote

MAQ · Post #1534 » by **MAQ** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:26 am

I am going to miss the word salad after this season. That one will never be topped. Just wow.

jsleesl28 · Post #1535 » by **jsleesl28** » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:16 am

lafleur took all the blame for Love.

Nagy just says some ridiculous things. These quotes make him look like a dumbA$s.

Sorry but that is beyond frustrating.

sco · Post #1536 » by **sco** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:30 pm

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-rumors/wild-rumor-reignites-idea-chicago-bears-may-soon-have-new-owner/

Post #1537 » by **Michael Jackson** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:10 pm

sco wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-rumors/wild-rumor-reignites-idea-chicago-bears-may-soon-have-new-owner/

Goodness I want the McCaskey family gone, but Bezos already owns most of my life, I’m not sure I want him owning my teams too lol. I guess it’s inevitable, you know the team would be better run for sure, logistics is his thing. He will have a service where Amazon trucks pick you up and deliver you to the game or maybe the drones will. Just imagine looking up in the sky and seeing a bunch of drunk bears fans after a game being dropped off by drones. Totally stupid but the image is making me chuckle.

sco · Post #1538 » by **sco** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:51 pm

Michael Jackson wrote:
sco wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-rumors/wild-rumor-reignites-idea-chicago-bears-may-soon-have-new-owner/

Goodness I want the McCaskey family gone, but Bezos already owns most of my life, I’m not sure I want him owning my teams too lol. I guess it’s inevitable, you know the team would be better run for sure, logistics is his thing. He will have a service where Amazon trucks pick you up and deliver you to the game or maybe the drones will. Just imagine looking up in the sky and seeing a bunch of drunk bears fans after a game being dropped off by drones. Totally stupid but the image is making me chuckle.

But 10% off tickets if you use the Amazon credit card.

micromonkey · Post #1539 » by **micromonkey** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:17 pm

Bezos could pay to use deep learning to learn from Bill Belichik and the best GMs of all time and put that knowledge in an AWS cloud computing cluster. Then he could hire $15/hr workers to be the front men for his AI/Big data run football team. What could possibly go wrong?

I for one, hail our new AI overlords.

The longer term play would be to extract DNA and clone all the best all time players on a secret island, raise them and train them from birth and then have them all sign as walk ons in 21 years. Guaranteed dynasty.

With Bezos--these would all be realistic options....

TheFinishSniper · Post #1540 » by **TheFinishSniper** » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:01 pm

Michael Jackson wrote:
sco wrote:https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-rumors/wild-rumor-reignites-idea-chicago-bears-may-soon-have-new-owner/

Goodness I want the McCaskey family gone, but Bezos already owns most of my life, I’m not sure I want him owning my teams too lol. I guess it’s inevitable, you know the team would be better run for sure, logistics is his thing. He will have a service where Amazon trucks pick you up and deliver you to the game or maybe the drones will. Just imagine looking up in the sky and seeing a bunch of drunk bears fans after a game being dropped off by drones. Totally stupid but the image is making me chuckle.

I already put part of my savings into Amazon. At least he can do for me is make Bears great franchise once again.