DuckIII wrote:HomoSapien wrote:nomorezorro wrote:i actually like powell as a late first developmental dice-roll. would be exciting to have a ++ athleticism guy in the fold if you can pick up a pick in the 20s somehow
don't really love a trade down from 12 though, unless you're only moving back a few spots or are somehow picking up a meaningful future asset in the process. think there's a pretty significant difference between the guys in the mix at 12 and the players likely to be available in the late teens
Here's one trade, I'd be tempted to do:
Bulls trade: 12, 45
BKN trades: 19, 26, 36
Not sure if they would do that, but this would open up an opportunity for us to basically walk away with three first-round talents in a deep draft.
This draft is deep, but it’s not that deep. Don’t get me wrong, there’s still possibly some star potential available at 19. Will Riley maybe? Someone like Coward doesn’t go as high as the hype?
But when I look at this draft it starts to fall a pretty hard tier somewhere between 12 and 19. That line might be different for everyone, but it’s there. For me it’s around 13-14 and I start having to squint a little.
I would really like to add a later first, perhaps to add an extra big for example. I’d also be interested in a run at Saraf later in the first, especially if we draft someone like CMB at 12. But I would not trade back to do it. It would have to be other assets or just hold tight.
Seems relevant to the conversation, here are the all-star odds by pick I graphed a few months ago.
Basically starting at 12, all-star odds are roughly the same throughout the 1st round. Picks have a higher tier value starting at 11. Different drafts have different depth of course, but most scouts consider this a pretty normal draft other than Cooper.

But even if it maths out, I agree with you I'd rather keep the 12. Maybe it's just an emotional thing but I want the higher #. Although it certainly didn't work out for us in McDermott's case.