2020 NBA Draft Thread: Bulls pick #7 (probably)

[Rose2Boozer]

Without the benefit of a NCAA tournament bump, this could be the draft of second round sleepers. I like a lot of the guys that could go in the second round just as much as some prospects in the top ten.

Jared Butler:

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I like him in 2nd as a hard nose defense and solid shooter. A little worried about his low assist totals for his height. I would not be disappointed but like other prospects in our range better.

I see him as more of an instant offense scorer/shooter off the bench. He should work perfectly with Sato. I'd much rather draft Butler at 47 than Haliburton at 7.

[StunnerKO]

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[Jcool0]

Going to lock himself into a top 5 pick

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[Rose2Boozer]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

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Kenyon Martin Jr.:

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[biggestbullsfan]

We gotta get into the top 5 somehow lol

[Jvaughn]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

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Kenyon Martin Jr.:

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It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

[Rose2Boozer]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

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Kenyon Martin Jr.:

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It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

Yeah, nothing about K-Mart Jr's game says small forward. He's definitely a small ball four, and will have to develop an outside shot to have a legit shot at an NBA career.

That being said, I love Josh Hall's skillset. Whoever drafts him will certainly have premium clay in their possession.

[Jvaughn]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

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Kenyon Martin Jr.:

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It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

Yeah, nothing about K-Mart Jr's game says small forward. He's definitely a small ball four, and will have to develop an outside shot to have a legit shot at an NBA career.

That being said, I love Josh Hall's skillset. Whoever drafts him will certainly have premium clay in their possession.

Not sure where's he's projected, but if it's 2nd round, whatever team drafts him should stash him in the G-League for a year and lock him in that weight room. Got a lot of Ingram in him, but is going to struggle against grown men.

[othawhitemeat]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

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Kenyon Martin Jr.:

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It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

Martin Jr. is 3 inches shorter than his pops. That makes the difference to me. If he was to grow, than yeah, I would be intrigued.

On a separate note and I know I am just rehashing, but I just really like Nesmith at our pick. I know he is devisive amongst the fan bases at this pick. I just get Klay Thompson lite type vibes. He is a solid athlete, elite shooter, high iq, and solid defender. With right development coach, I really think he could be Klay Thompson lite. I am not saying he will be nearly as good, but I could totally see a 17 ppg scorer, efficient, 5 rpg, and solid d. I know he is not going to be an elite offensive creator, or as good defensively as Okoro/Vassell type, but he just has all the tools to be an elite 3 point shooter that could become a very good defender. He is elite as moving around without the ball. He may need to speed up his release a tad, but he is just the safest bet to me along with possibly being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft to me. Klay went 11th in his draft so no one thought he would be as elite as he was other than the Spurs hoping to move up to get him before getting Leonard in that draft.

[Jvaughn]

Two prospects taking the Mitchell Robinson route.

Josh Hall:

Watch on YouTube

Kenyon Martin Jr.:

Watch on YouTube

It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

Martin Jr. is 3 inches shorter than his pops. That makes the difference to me. If he was to grow, than yeah, I would be intrigued.

On a separate note and I know I am just rehashing, but I just really like Nesmith at our pick. I know he is devisive amongst the fan bases at this pick. I just get Klay Thompson lite type vibes. He is a solid athlete, elite shooter, high iq, and solid defender. With right development coach, I really think he could be Klay Thompson lite. I am not saying he will be nearly as good, but I could totally see a 17 ppg scorer, efficient, 5 rpg, and solid d. I know he is not going to be an elite offensive creator, or as good defensively as Okoro/Vassell type, but he just has all the tools to be an elite 3 point shooter that could become a very good defender. He is elite as moving around without the ball. He may need to speed up his release a tad, but he is just the safest bet to me along with possibly being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft to me. Klay went 11th in his draft so no one thought he would be as elite as he was other than the Spurs hoping to move up to get him before getting Leonard in that draft.

I agree on Martin Jr., but he's still young enough that I could see a 2 inch spurt being possible. Otherwise I definitely don't see wing skills yet.

I don't have a problem with Nesmith, I'm just not excited about him being a high end starter. I wouldn't be totally shocked, he just seems like a very average prospect. If it came down to it, I'd be way more prone to picking Vassell. I'm probably in the minority, but I still see a high ceiling with him.

[Andi Obst]

I really don't think Nesmith belongs in the lottery, just don't see it at all. He has the shooting and moves well off the ball, which is obviously huge for a pure shooter, but that's excactly what I view him as: a pure shooter. I don't really see anything else I like about him.

[MrFortune3]

Going to lock himself into a top 5 pick

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Please, just give me Deni in my Bulls life.

[othawhitemeat]

It's crazy how much K-mart's game resembles his father. I'm not sure what kind of role he'd be able to play in the league right now, but he's got some crazy physical skills.

Martin Jr. is 3 inches shorter than his pops. That makes the difference to me. If he was to grow, than yeah, I would be intrigued.

On a separate note and I know I am just rehashing, but I just really like Nesmith at our pick. I know he is devisive amongst the fan bases at this pick. I just get Klay Thompson lite type vibes. He is a solid athlete, elite shooter, high iq, and solid defender. With right development coach, I really think he could be Klay Thompson lite. I am not saying he will be nearly as good, but I could totally see a 17 ppg scorer, efficient, 5 rpg, and solid d. I know he is not going to be an elite offensive creator, or as good defensively as Okoro/Vassell type, but he just has all the tools to be an elite 3 point shooter that could become a very good defender. He is elite as moving around without the ball. He may need to speed up his release a tad, but he is just the safest bet to me along with possibly being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft to me. Klay went 11th in his draft so no one thought he would be as elite as he was other than the Spurs hoping to move up to get him before getting Leonard in that draft.

I agree on Martin Jr., but he's still young enough that I could see a 2 inch spurt being possible. Otherwise I definitely don't see wing skills yet.

I don't have a problem with Nesmith, I'm just not excited about him being a high end starter. I wouldn't be totally shocked, he just seems like a very average prospect. If it came down to it, I'd be way more prone to picking Vassell. I'm probably in the minority, but I still see a high ceiling with him.

Nah, I get it and like Vassell too. Vassell is a much smoother athlete. I've missed on many and been right by going with gut a few times. I love some shooters though.

Wrong -

1) Epke Udoh (thought his reach, athletic ability, and mid range was going to be legit)
2) Dante Exum (thought he was going to be a stud).
3) gorgui deng
4) Taj pick (couldn't stand that pick, but worked out well)
5) Thomas Robinson - thought he was going to be better

Right

1) Steph Curry - thought he was going to be the best of that draft including Griffin.
2) Paul George - thought he was top 2 in that draft. Also, liked Hayward in same draft.
3) Gary Harris
4) Liked Jeff Teague over James Johnson
5) LaVert over Denzel but understand the feet concerns

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Martin Jr. is 3 inches shorter than his pops. That makes the difference to me. If he was to grow, than yeah, I would be intrigued.

On a separate note and I know I am just rehashing, but I just really like Nesmith at our pick. I know he is devisive amongst the fan bases at this pick. I just get Klay Thompson lite type vibes. He is a solid athlete, elite shooter, high iq, and solid defender. With right development coach, I really think he could be Klay Thompson lite. I am not saying he will be nearly as good, but I could totally see a 17 ppg scorer, efficient, 5 rpg, and solid d. I know he is not going to be an elite offensive creator, or as good defensively as Okoro/Vassell type, but he just has all the tools to be an elite 3 point shooter that could become a very good defender. He is elite as moving around without the ball. He may need to speed up his release a tad, but he is just the safest bet to me along with possibly being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft to me. Klay went 11th in his draft so no one thought he would be as elite as he was other than the Spurs hoping to move up to get him before getting Leonard in that draft.

I agree on Martin Jr., but he's still young enough that I could see a 2 inch spurt being possible. Otherwise I definitely don't see wing skills yet.

I don't have a problem with Nesmith, I'm just not excited about him being a high end starter. I wouldn't be totally shocked, he just seems like a very average prospect. If it came down to it, I'd be way more prone to picking Vassell. I'm probably in the minority, but I still see a high ceiling with him.

Nah, I get it and like Vassell too. Vassell is a much smoother athlete. I've missed on many and been right by going with gut a few times. I love some shooters though.

Wrong -

1) Epke Udoh (thought his reach, athletic ability, and mid range was going to be legit)
2) Dante Exum (thought he was going to be a stud).
3) gorgui deng
4) Taj pick (couldn't stand that pick, but worked out well)
5) Thomas Robinson - thought he was going to be better

Right

1) Steph Curry - thought he was going to be the best of that draft including Griffin.
2) Paul George - thought he was top 2 in that draft. Also, liked Hayward in same draft.
3) Gary Harris
4) Liked Jeff Teague over James Johnson
5) LaVert over Denzel but understand the feet concerns

Udoh had 4man hype coming I feel that he’s be perfect coming in as a 5 so I don’t think you’re necessary wrong there

Exum too many injuries. Would’ve been a stud if he could’ve stayed healthy

Dieng is a per minute monster in the crappiest of situations. Should’ve been a starting C right off the bat.

TRob remember when he had delusions of being a 3? Would probably be a 5 coming out now.

[Jvaughn]

Nah, I get it and like Vassell too. Vassell is a much smoother athlete. I've missed on many and been right by going with gut a few times. I love some shooters though.

Wrong -

1) Epke Udoh (thought his reach, athletic ability, and mid range was going to be legit)

Udoh

This invalidates any other opinion you'll ever have j/k lol. That was a weird one. He just never seemed to even show flashes at the pro level. Could've had a Larry Sanders like impact had he gone to the right team.

[bledredwine]

Martin Jr. is 3 inches shorter than his pops. That makes the difference to me. If he was to grow, than yeah, I would be intrigued.

On a separate note and I know I am just rehashing, but I just really like Nesmith at our pick. I know he is devisive amongst the fan bases at this pick. I just get Klay Thompson lite type vibes. He is a solid athlete, elite shooter, high iq, and solid defender. With right development coach, I really think he could be Klay Thompson lite. I am not saying he will be nearly as good, but I could totally see a 17 ppg scorer, efficient, 5 rpg, and solid d. I know he is not going to be an elite offensive creator, or as good defensively as Okoro/Vassell type, but he just has all the tools to be an elite 3 point shooter that could become a very good defender. He is elite as moving around without the ball. He may need to speed up his release a tad, but he is just the safest bet to me along with possibly being the 2nd or 3rd best player in this draft to me. Klay went 11th in his draft so no one thought he would be as elite as he was other than the Spurs hoping to move up to get him before getting Leonard in that draft.

I agree on Martin Jr., but he's still young enough that I could see a 2 inch spurt being possible. Otherwise I definitely don't see wing skills yet.

I don't have a problem with Nesmith, I'm just not excited about him being a high end starter. I wouldn't be totally shocked, he just seems like a very average prospect. If it came down to it, I'd be way more prone to picking Vassell. I'm probably in the minority, but I still see a high ceiling with him.

Nah, I get it and like Vassell too. Vassell is a much smoother athlete. I've missed on many and been right by going with gut a few times. I love some shooters though.

Wrong -

1) Epke Udoh (thought his reach, athletic ability, and mid range was going to be legit)
2) Dante Exum (thought he was going to be a stud).
3) gorgui deng
4) Taj pick (couldn't stand that pick, but worked out well)
5) Thomas Robinson - thought he was going to be better

Right

1) Steph Curry - thought he was going to be the best of that draft including Griffin.
2) Paul George - thought he was top 2 in that draft. Also, liked Hayward in same draft.
3) Gary Harris
4) Liked Jeff Teague over James Johnson
5) LaVert over Denzel but understand the feet concerns

Dude, you and I are the same. I predicted Steph and PG- I was campaigning to trade for the fifth pick and draft Pg. I also thought Thomas Robinson was going to be a beast. Man was I wrong.

[rtblues]

Why is Cowley writing articles about the Bulls taking Ball in the draft, and intimating that somehow they will have a pick substantially higher than 7? Most analysts have Ball in the TOP 5, some TOP 3, and I've seen a few that have him at #1.
This is prime Cowley, he just spits ish out that has no bearing in reality, knowing nobody is
going to remember or care enough to check him on his B.S. later, when it invariably doesn't happen.

Trying to remember if Cowley ever actually "broke" a story ala WOJ or Shams, or if any of the wild-eyed crap
that he's written has ever actually played out like he said it would?

Like the team, players, coaches, management needing to be better, can we include the writers who cover the Bulls in this
as well too? He can go with Gar, and soon Boylen, that's the right company for him. Sick of his B.S. and now
with the stoppage in play he's bored so, it's gotten worse.

[Jvaughn]

Why is Cowley writing articles about the Bulls taking Ball in the draft, and intimating that somehow they will have a pick substantially higher than 7? Most analysts have Ball in the TOP 5, some TOP 3, and I've seen a few that have him at #1.
This is prime Cowley, he just spits ish out that has no bearing in reality, knowing nobody is
going to remember or care enough to check him on his B.S. later, when it invariably doesn't happen.

Trying to remember if Cowley ever actually "broke" a story ala WOJ or Shams, or if any of the wild-eyed crap
that he's written has ever actually played out like he said it would?

Like the team, players, coaches, management needing to be better, can we include the writers who cover the Bulls in this
as well too? He can go with Gar, and soon Boylen, that's the right company for him. Sick of his B.S. and now
with the stoppage in play he's bored so, it's gotten worse.

When it comes to breaking player movement or draft wishes, I can't recall him ever being at the forefront, but when it comes to tensions within the organization, he's usually right on the money. I hated when he wrote about the issues with Things and the FO or Jimmy and the team, but he was absolutely right in the end.

[PaKii94]

Why is Cowley writing articles about the Bulls taking Ball in the draft, and intimating that somehow they will have a pick substantially higher than 7? Most analysts have Ball in the TOP 5, some TOP 3, and I've seen a few that have him at #1.
This is prime Cowley, he just spits ish out that has no bearing in reality, knowing nobody is
going to remember or care enough to check him on his B.S. later, when it invariably doesn't happen.

Trying to remember if Cowley ever actually "broke" a story ala WOJ or Shams, or if any of the wild-eyed crap
that he's written has ever actually played out like he said it would?

Like the team, players, coaches, management needing to be better, can we include the writers who cover the Bulls in this
as well too? He can go with Gar, and soon Boylen, that's the right company for him. Sick of his B.S. and now
with the stoppage in play he's bored so, it's gotten worse.

When it comes to breaking player movement or draft wishes, I can't recall him ever being at the forefront, but when it comes to tensions within the organization, he's usually right on the money. I hated when he wrote about the issues with Things and the FO or Jimmy and the team, but he was absolutely right in the end.

^that. But also I think Crowley is just going through all the prospects in the lotto. That doesn't imply the bulls are targeting/expecting that player to be there at 7

[rtblues]

Why is Cowley writing articles about the Bulls taking Ball in the draft, and intimating that somehow they will have a pick substantially higher than 7? Most analysts have Ball in the TOP 5, some TOP 3, and I've seen a few that have him at #1.
This is prime Cowley, he just spits ish out that has no bearing in reality, knowing nobody is
going to remember or care enough to check him on his B.S. later, when it invariably doesn't happen.

Trying to remember if Cowley ever actually "broke" a story ala WOJ or Shams, or if any of the wild-eyed crap
that he's written has ever actually played out like he said it would?

Like the team, players, coaches, management needing to be better, can we include the writers who cover the Bulls in this
as well too? He can go with Gar, and soon Boylen, that's the right company for him. Sick of his B.S. and now
with the stoppage in play he's bored so, it's gotten worse.

When it comes to breaking player movement or draft wishes, I can't recall him ever being at the forefront, but when it comes to tensions within the organization, he's usually right on the money. I hated when he wrote about the issues with Things and the FO or Jimmy and the team, but he was absolutely right in the end.

^that. But also I think Crowley is just going through all the prospects in the lotto. That doesn't imply the bulls are targeting/expecting that player to be there at 7

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2020/7/8/21317295/bulls-nba-draft-talk-point-guard-lamelo-ball