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The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall.

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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1581 » by ZOMG » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:09 pm

SHO'NUFF wrote:If Otto Porter Jr is athletic enough to play SF.....then so can Patrick Williams.


Otto has been unable to guard 3's effectively for years now.
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Post#1582 » by Ebo21 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 pm

The more I think on P Will and the upcoming prospects I think he’ll end up being more of the longterm answer at the 4 spot. Lauri had better come out guns blazing if he wants to stick around Chicago longterm.

Considering we likely will miss the playoffs again this season and next year’s draft class being loaded with offensively talented wings, I see the 3 spot answer being filled by one of those prospects.

Lauri ends up being the odd man out because of his offensive limitations athletically and ball handling versatility.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1583 » by DuckIII » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:32 pm

Ebo21 wrote:The more I think on P Will and the upcoming prospects I think he’ll end up being more of the longterm answer at the 4 spot. Lauri had better come out guns blazing if he wants to stick around Chicago longterm.


He needs to do that regardless of Willy. I’m willing to accept the injury explanations from last season, for now, even though I never really agreed. But we are all dealing with limited information as fans so it’s best to keep an open mind and accept evolving into.

But if he resembles last season’s version this year, get what you can at the trade deadline before you have to extend him, and move on. Regardless of Willy’s future role or how he looks as a rook.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1584 » by MrSparkle » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:51 pm

Should we start a Chandler Hutchison injury watch?

I am looking forward (pun intended) to adding one more wing in next year's draft. It's gonna happen, cause the 28 out of 30 FR prospects are forwards.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1585 » by Ccwatercraft » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:54 pm

ZOMG wrote:
SHO'NUFF wrote:If Otto Porter Jr is athletic enough to play SF.....then so can Patrick Williams.


Otto has been unable to guard 3's effectively for years now.


Thats not my take, granted he struggles against the elite wings, but who doesn't? (kawai/jimmy maybe?)

Overall I've always felt he was a solid defender all around.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1586 » by fleet » Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:59 pm

Will Perdue said yesterday on XM radio that when Otto was technically “healthy”, Will looked at him sometimes wondering if he really was.
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Post#1587 » by Dieselbound&Down » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:05 pm

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Ebo21 wrote:The more I think on P Will and the upcoming prospects I think he’ll end up being more of the longterm answer at the 4 spot. Lauri had better come out guns blazing if he wants to stick around Chicago longterm.


He needs to do that regardless of Willy. I’m willing to accept the injury explanations from last season, for now, even though I never really agreed. But we are all dealing with limited information as fans so it’s best to keep an open mind and accept evolving into.

But if he resembles last season’s version this year, get what you can at the trade deadline before you have to extend him, and move on. Regardless of Willy’s future role or how he looks as a rook.


it's kind of ironic that we are talking about Lauri's offensive limitations as the reason to get rid of him. Offense is supposed to be the best part of his game. A quiet indictment to be sure.
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Post#1588 » by TheStig » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:10 pm

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Then again, this could be like all the Tyrus Thomas has added to his game threads.

He did add quite a few skills the problem was mainly that he had a ridiculously low basketball IQ and was a horrible decision maker. He also didnt love the game and after that 2nd contract he completely checked out mentally.

By all accounts Pat is the polar opposite, hard worker and loves the game

I was not trying to insinuate he'd become the next TT. I was just saying we don't know what he's been doing and it could just be hype.

I imagine he's a hard worker but time will tell.
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Post#1589 » by Bulliever2020 » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:21 pm

Pumped for his debut tomorrow!

Those 10 minutes are going to be glorious.
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Post#1590 » by fleet » Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:46 pm

KC Johnson wrote: I’ll just say this: I won’t do anything to slow the Williams train. Somebody I trust inherently, somebody who knows the league extremely well and has been fairly critical of the Bulls in the past, told me that the organization nailed this pick and that Williams has all the talent and makings to be the best player in the draft. So hype away.


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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1591 » by thedarkstark » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:13 pm

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KC Johnson wrote: I’ll just say this: I won’t do anything to slow the Williams train. Somebody I trust inherently, somebody who knows the league extremely well and has been fairly critical of the Bulls in the past, told me that the organization nailed this pick and that Williams has all the talent and makings to be the best player in the draft. So hype away.


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-mailbag-lauri-markkanen-edition-plus-logjam-power-forward


I believe this could be true but I wouldnt put too much stock in anything KC johnson has to say he's basically a mouthpiece for the organization, he would never do anything to rock the boat, he likes his cushy job. If it was coming from somebody like friedell i'd be more hyped.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1592 » by fleet » Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:21 pm

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KC Johnson wrote: I’ll just say this: I won’t do anything to slow the Williams train. Somebody I trust inherently, somebody who knows the league extremely well and has been fairly critical of the Bulls in the past, told me that the organization nailed this pick and that Williams has all the talent and makings to be the best player in the draft. So hype away.


https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/bulls-mailbag-lauri-markkanen-edition-plus-logjam-power-forward


I believe this could be true but I wouldnt put too much stock in anything KC johnson has to say he's basically a mouthpiece for the organization, he would never do anything to rock the boat, he likes his cushy job. If it was coming from somebody like friedell i'd be more hyped.

It seemed possible that the Bulls liked him better than Ball anyway. And Detroit too for that matter. Or one of the ensconced top 3. Detroit tried trading over the Bulls, and the Bulls didn’t work out Ball.
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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1593 » by fleet » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:28 pm

Bulliever2020 wrote:Pumped for his debut tomorrow!

Those 10 minutes are going to be glorious.



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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1594 » by Ccwatercraft » Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:00 pm

Bulliever2020 wrote:Pumped for his debut tomorrow!

Those 10 minutes are going to be glorious.


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Re: The Chicago Bulls select forward Patrick Williams #4 overall. 

Post#1595 » by TeamMan » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:45 am

P-Will looked extremely smooth in the Rockets game.

For a rookie, I was impressed.

Guy has huge hands!!!
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Post#1597 » by GimmeDat » Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:45 am

That was really encouraging. The shot looked good, he moved well, and he just looked like a man against boys physically, even at 19.

I'm really encouraged by not just the physical profile, but also just general feel/intelligence/patience offensively. He really does give me shades of early career Jimmy/Kawhi just in terms of being that guy that ticks all the foundational building blocks physically and feel wise, and the sky will be as high as his skill-set development takes him.
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Post#1599 » by League Circles » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:49 pm

The more video of Williams I watch the more I like him as a pick. This team has been missing a strong wing in his general mold since Ron Artest. Deng was very good of course but not nearly as strong going for blocks and dunks. I feel it's very valuable in a league where basically all the best players are kong, capable wings (Lebron, Kawhi, etc).
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Post#1600 » by coldfish » Sat Dec 12, 2020 1:44 pm

I have been negative about PWill based on how he played at FSU. I'm not going to stick to my guns though. He looked good last night. Made a few rookie mistakes and bad reads but in his first preseason game with a limited camp, that's to be expected.

Overall, his defense really stuck out. Off ball, he really makes the rest of the Bulls look terrible because he is the only one who pays attention. His presence on the court actually makes the other Bulls look worse because its so blatantly obvious that they don't help.

His shot looks noticeably quicker and smoother than where it was last year, where he seemed to have a slower release with a hitch. He really did some work. Him shooting off the dribble was great to see.

I would describe him as a smooth, high basketball IQ player.

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