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nomorezorro wrote:they're gonna cap this off by trading a bounty to move up to 12 for the right to draft mac jones
Susan wrote:nomorezorro wrote:they're gonna cap this off by trading a bounty to move up to 12 for the right to draft mac jones
lmao if they end up trading a future first for him, that would be absurd.
I'd be cool with Trey Lance though. Dude is big, strong and fast. Josh Allen, Cam Newton and Colin Kaepernick had a baby and out came Lance.
But these dudes are getting fired. The defense is getting too old to win with a rookie QB/Dalton's garbage arm.
WookieOnRitalin wrote:Game 1. It's where the series is truly 0-0.
TheSuzerain wrote:Why did they tinker with contracts to free up cap space?
They need to sell off the defense now while they have value.
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:TheSuzerain wrote:Why did they tinker with contracts to free up cap space?
They need to sell off the defense now while they have value.
They’d get fired for a losing season.
They’re clinging to their jobs, and the poor fans have to put up with moves that only effect the next 10 months.
Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
jacoby1us wrote:Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
I honestly would have been ok with them just resigning Trubisky for one year and looking to move up in the draft for a QB (preferably Mac Jones). This move is just pure remediation at its finest, its only a matter of time before Pace is relieved.
Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
Dresden wrote:jacoby1us wrote:Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
I honestly would have been ok with them just resigning Trubisky for one year and looking to move up in the draft for a QB (preferably Mac Jones). This move is just pure remediation at its finest, its only a matter of time before Pace is relieved.
Why would you move up for Mac Jones? A lot of scouts don't think he's even a first round pick. Then you spend 2-3 years grooming him, only to find out he's no better than Mitch. Then where are you at?
I think you have to realistic- they just didn't have many good options. But it would be an even worse decision to invest a lot in someone who is not a franchise QB.
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
I see what you are saying but for me I would rather tear it down and rebuild than be stuck in mediocrity with Dalton at QB. There's just no hope for a team in this direction. I understand Pace probably isn't in a position to start a rebuild but that comes back to our crappy ownership for creating this situation. This is just typical Bears and it won't ever change until ownership changes.
jacoby1us wrote:Dresden wrote:jacoby1us wrote:
I honestly would have been ok with them just resigning Trubisky for one year and looking to move up in the draft for a QB (preferably Mac Jones). This move is just pure remediation at its finest, its only a matter of time before Pace is relieved.
Why would you move up for Mac Jones? A lot of scouts don't think he's even a first round pick. Then you spend 2-3 years grooming him, only to find out he's no better than Mitch. Then where are you at?
I think you have to realistic- they just didn't have many good options. But it would be an even worse decision to invest a lot in someone who is not a franchise QB.
A lot of scouts didn't believe Lamar Jackson should remain a QB and two years later he was the league MVP. I am die-hard Bama fan and I have watched this kid, he is the real deal.
weneeda2guard wrote:When you have high hopes for landing Watson or Wilson
And you end up with Andy Dalton
It pretty much sums up what it has been like to be a bears fan for the past 30 years smh
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:Dresden wrote:I don't see this move as reason to give up all hope. What else were they supposed to do? They reportedly were very aggressive in pursuing Wilson, and SEA just refused to trade him. As far as we know, the Texans might well be saying the same about Watson. So with those two options gone, what's Option C? Give up a bunch of assets to move up to take another rookie QB? If that was even possible. Pace already was burned once for doing that, he might well think he's not going to do it again.
The next best option was to get a veteran QB that can win you some games the next year or two, and Dalton may have been the best option out there at this point.
They still need to figure out a future QB, but they probably think that with a veteran behind center they at least can be competitive with the D they have, and possibly compete for a playoff spot again. Not a path to the super bowl, but also not a path to a 4-12 season either.
I see what you are saying but for me I would rather tear it down and rebuild than be stuck in mediocrity with Dalton at QB. There's just no hope for a team in this direction. I understand Pace probably isn't in a position to start a rebuild but that comes back to our crappy ownership for creating this situation. This is just typical Bears and it won't ever change until ownership changes.