Around the NBA: 2020-21 Season

[DASMACKDOWN]

The Hornets are a decent team, but man they have been so lucky all year. Meltdowns by the opposing teams. Improbably last second shots, you name it.

[Leslie Forman]

He was in a class all by himself. Still is.

Crazier thing is he accomplished this in an era without inflated stats

Not familiar with the 80s are you? Very inflated era stats wise.

The amount of points/rebounds/assists in today's game is basically the same as it was in the late '80s.

But yeah MJ would totally average 50/20/20 a game today. In 32 minutes. And everybody else on the team would be totally cool with it. Yeah.

[MrFortune3]

The Hornets are a decent team, but man they have been so lucky all year. Meltdowns by the opposing teams. Improbably last second shots, you name it.

Given their previous luck before this year. I'd say it's due.

[HouseOfLight]

Bagley3 is injured yet again, a fractured hand this time. The guy just cannot stay on the court

[PrimzyBulls81]

Crazier thing is he accomplished this in an era without inflated stats

Not familiar with the 80s are you? Very inflated era stats wise.

The amount of points/rebounds/assists in today's game is basically the same as it was in the late '80s.

But yeah MJ would totally average 50/20/20 a game today. In 32 minutes. And everybody else on the team would be totally cool with it. Yeah.

50/20/20 haha, good one... He would probably score easily 40,but rebs / ast, more in 12/10 range..

[RSP83]

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We can use KLove as offense initiator from either the low or high post. Poor man's Jokic (although he's paid closer to the real one).

EDIT: Just realized Love is still 32. If he's healthy, no reason he can't be productive for another 3 years. Pau made the All-Star team twice with the Bulls at 34-35.

[sco]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2063205

We can use KLove as offense initiator from either the low or high post. Poor man's Jokic (although he's paid closer to the real one).

EDIT: Just realized Love is still 32. If he's healthy, no reason he can't be productive for another 3 years. Pau made the All-Star team twice with the Bulls at 34-35.

Perfect! He and Lauri can do a job share. They both play about 1/2 season each.

[RSP83]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2063205

We can use KLove as offense initiator from either the low or high post. Poor man's Jokic (although he's paid closer to the real one).

EDIT: Just realized Love is still 32. If he's healthy, no reason he can't be productive for another 3 years. Pau made the All-Star team twice with the Bulls at 34-35.

Perfect! He and Lauri can do a job share. They both play about 1/2 season each.

Lol. Seriously, is Love's injury career ending?

I'd do a Garland, Love for OPJ, Lauri swap. Cavs will probably pick top 3, they can use the pick on better prospect than Garland (Cade or Suggs).

[sco]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2063205

We can use KLove as offense initiator from either the low or high post. Poor man's Jokic (although he's paid closer to the real one).

EDIT: Just realized Love is still 32. If he's healthy, no reason he can't be productive for another 3 years. Pau made the All-Star team twice with the Bulls at 34-35.

Perfect! He and Lauri can do a job share. They both play about 1/2 season each.

Lol. Seriously, is Love's injury career ending?

I'd do a Garland, Love for OPJ, Lauri swap. Cavs will probably pick top 3, they can use the pick on better prospect than Garland (Cade or Suggs).

Love hasn't played more than 60 games in a season in the past 5 seasons (including this one where he won't get near 50). Garland doesn't seem like adequate compensation for taking on that crap deal. I like Nance though...throw him in and I'd consider it.

[MrSparkle]

Hey I have great idea on how to make us much worse for 3 years: trade 20yos for declining max salaries on bottom-5 teams.

Are we really salivating for the Cavs’ most desperate dumps?

I wouldn’t trade Kornet and Felicio for Love.

[Chi town]

Is Devontae Graham a good buy low candidate or has he just gotten worse and suck? Those shooting percentages are no bueno. Can he pass and playmake? How's his D? He has not future in CHA with Melo and Rozier playing so well and now Monk scoring.

[RSP83]

Hey I have great idea on how to make us much worse for 3 years: trade 20yos for declining max salaries on bottom-5 teams.

Are we really salivating for the Cavs’ most desperate dumps?

I wouldn’t trade Kornet and Felicio for Love.

We don't have to trade Lauri. OPJ for Love straight up works. I added Lauri because I think Garland will give us close to equal value for him, since we're hesitant anyway to extend Lauri. Garland is a pretty good young piece to add to the core since we all agree Coby is not the long term solution at PG.

[RSP83]

Is Devontae Graham a good buy low candidate or has he just gotten worse and suck? Those shooting percentages are no bueno. Can he pass and playmake? How's his D? He has not future in CHA with Melo and Rozier playing so well and now Monk scoring.

He's surprisingly top 7 in the league in Assist / TO ratio (https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/assist-to-turnover-ratio). He's a bit of a volume shooter like Coby, but seems like he takes care of the ball better. I'll take a flyer on him.

[Jcool0]

Of course i look at the box score of the Miami game and see Dragic goes 1-4 in the game....and see he has 5 points in his last two games on 2-15 shooting. If you take out the Bulls game his last 3 he is 6-26. Bulls just got really really unlucky....

[Chi town]

Of course i look at the box score of the Miami game and see Dragic goes 1-4 in the game....and see he has 5 points in his last two games on 2-15 shooting. If you take out the Bulls game his last 3 he is 6-26. Bulls just got really really unlucky....

Saw that and thought the exact same thing.

[kodo]

Of course i look at the box score of the Miami game and see Dragic goes 1-4 in the game....and see he has 5 points in his last two games on 2-15 shooting. If you take out the Bulls game his last 3 he is 6-26. Bulls just got really really unlucky....

Saw that and thought the exact same thing.

I'll take it, because it was the straw that forced Billy to change the starting lineup.
Thank you Goran, you were our only hope.

[ZOMG]

Is Devontae Graham a good buy low candidate or has he just gotten worse and suck? Those shooting percentages are no bueno. Can he pass and playmake? How's his D? He has not future in CHA with Melo and Rozier playing so well and now Monk scoring.

He's surprisingly top 7 in the league in Assist / TO ratio (https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/assist-to-turnover-ratio). He's a bit of a volume shooter like Coby, but seems like he takes care of the ball better. I'll take a flyer on him.

Hell no.

As a PG, you can get a good assist/TO ratio in the NBA by playing it very safe. Too safe. A backcourt ballhandler gets a bunch of assists in the NBA by default (see: Coby White), just handing the ball to people, and after that it's just a question of not trying anything remotely risky. That's Graham for you.

He's a SG trapped in a PG's body (see again: Coby White). Undersized and too slow to contain the waterbug 1's of the league.

[WindyCityBorn]

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2063205

We can use KLove as offense initiator from either the low or high post. Poor man's Jokic (although he's paid closer to the real one).

EDIT: Just realized Love is still 32. If he's healthy, no reason he can't be productive for another 3 years. Pau made the All-Star team twice with the Bulls at 34-35.

Perfect! He and Lauri can do a job share. They both play about 1/2 season each.

Lol. Seriously, is Love's injury career ending?

I'd do a Garland, Love for OPJ, Lauri swap. Cavs will probably pick top 3, they can use the pick on better prospect than Garland (Cade or Suggs).

I wouldn’t. Rather keep Lauri.

[Ice Man]

Of course i look at the box score of the Miami game and see Dragic goes 1-4 in the game....and see he has 5 points in his last two games on 2-15 shooting. If you take out the Bulls game his last 3 he is 6-26. Bulls just got really really unlucky....

All Heat players are worse than fans think they are, except for Butler and Olynyk, who are better than fans think they are. That team isn't very talented. It does have great chemistry, though.

[MGB8]

Of course i look at the box score of the Miami game and see Dragic goes 1-4 in the game....and see he has 5 points in his last two games on 2-15 shooting. If you take out the Bulls game his last 3 he is 6-26. Bulls just got really really unlucky....

All Heat players are worse than fans think they are, except for Butler and Olynyk, who are better than fans think they are. That team isn't very talented. It does have great chemistry, though.

I know Heat fans overrate both Bam and Herro, but both guys are really good players. Bam still hasn't reached his peak, and obviously neither has Herro. They did well with both. And I think they got another good, if not great, player in the draft in Precious.

As for Dragic - age is a big factor there, along with the benefits of any time off. Still, I wouldn't underrate him come the playoffs - he's been underrated most of his NBA career.

That team's depth is a problem for them, though. I'm surprised that Moe Harkless hasn't been able to establish himself - but I guess there's a reason why he keeps bouncing from team to team. Seems like he's a nice guy (good in the locker-room) but maybe the basketball IQ (and quickly adapting to what a new team does) just isn't there. Hence the Heat's interest in Ariza for the same role. Iggy is *really* old (and it's not like Ariza isn't up there, either). Dunn is hit or miss. Okapala has been really slow to develop. Duncan Robinson is one-dimensional-ish (poor man's Josh Harris).

If Butler gets banged up, that team falls apart. He's so huge for them in so many ways.