The Around The NBA Thread

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Kemba will play well for 2 months in OKC and Presti will trade him and get another 1st out of it.

[sco]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Kemba will play well for 2 months in OKC and Presti will trade him and get another 1st out of it.

Was thinking exact same!

[Michael Jackson]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

OKC flips pricey vets like a real estate agent flips fixer uppers.

It's impressive honestly. Watching him GM is likely more fun than watching the team right now. He is so going to trade Kemba for another asset of some sort. It will be interesting to see what PResti does when he decides to cash in on an his treasure trove.

[DuckIII]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

You’ve just ruined my mood.

[Almost Retired]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

OKC flips pricey vets like a real estate agent flips fixer uppers.

They are going to be able to add some nice talent to their already improving core. And all those picks are cost controlled during the initial contract. I'm anxious to see where all their picks land. They can take some chances if they have 3 (or 4) picks or they can put together a package to consolidate and move up or trade for more young vet talent. I like their future chances.

[Dan Z]

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

OKC flips pricey vets like a real estate agent flips fixer uppers.

It's impressive honestly. Watching him GM is likely more fun than watching the team right now. He is so going to trade Kemba for another asset of some sort. It will be interesting to see what PResti does when he decides to cash in on an his treasure trove.

If the lottery doesn't go his way he should try and move up in the lottery to get a top 4 pick (IMO). No time like the present to start developing high level prospects.

[Michael Jackson]

OKC flips pricey vets like a real estate agent flips fixer uppers.

It's impressive honestly. Watching him GM is likely more fun than watching the team right now. He is so going to trade Kemba for another asset of some sort. It will be interesting to see what PResti does when he decides to cash in on an his treasure trove.

If the lottery doesn't go his way he should try and move up in the lottery to get a top 4 pick (IMO). No time like the present to start developing high level prospects.

Very true... yet I don't know if anyone is trading down this year from the top 4... Last year the top picks were all up for grabs but no one wanted to trade, this year everyone will want to trade up and no one will budge I bet.

[Pax for Prez]

Why are trades allowed from now ? Doesn’t make any sense with the playoffs being currently played. What if a playoff team wanted to get in on this deal?

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[TheStig]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

You’ve just ruined my mood.

AK will now have to get him

[TheStig]

I'm curious to see what transpired in Dallas. Kind of odd for a team that didn't disappoint to lose a coach and GM. Both were long time tenured in their positions.

[Michael Jackson]

I'm curious to see what transpired in Dallas. Kind of odd for a team that didn't disappoint to lose a coach and GM. Both were long time tenured in their positions.

The whole story will be interesting. Gambler Bob plays some role. Not sure what that is but the leak a few days ago and then all this fallout isn't a coincidence The whole story will make sense at some point but all we know right now is the Mavs are on fire and no one knows who is yet to blame.

[CaPiTanAK]

Presti is in the wrong business. He has potential to be next RE tycoon.

[erlim]

Glad to hear Kemba is no longer available as AK’s next “all in” move.

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

You’ve just ruined my mood.

I don’t get it, AK’s “all-in” moves have been great so far. Nobody would have pegged us to get Vuce. There hasn’t been any overpaying for past their prime dudes so far.

[MrSparkle]

Trades are happening right now? That Kemba return sounds exactly like what I thought it would be: FRP cap dump. I don't think Ainge would've swallowed his pride and done it; perhaps impulsive for Stevens in his new role, but he coached him the whole year and probably knows he's cooked. Injuries suck.

For the good of the league, I really hope Kawhi's knee is not an ACL tear.

[MrSparkle]

Why are trades allowed from now ? Doesn’t make any sense with the playoffs being currently played. What if a playoff team wanted to get in on this deal?

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I never knew this. Strange it doesn't happen more often. Seems like a good way to let players acclimate and prep for their new teams, not to mention it helps the team prepare its draft/FA plans.

[Michael Jackson]

Why are trades allowed from now ? Doesn’t make any sense with the playoffs being currently played. What if a playoff team wanted to get in on this deal?

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I never knew this. Strange it doesn't happen more often. Seems like a good way to let players acclimate and prep for their new teams, not to mention it helps the team prepare its draft/FA plans.

I think the reason it doesn’t happen is you might want to hear all offers. A team who just lost might have a better offer for your player. In the case of Kemba that was never going to be it, that was a cap dump so no reason to wait for teams still in the playoffs.

[dice]

That is absolutely direspectful. Jrue is a damn good player. Bledsoe is solid but not near Jrue.

and yet the bucks were significantly worse this season while the pelicans are about the same

17/4/7/3to 53%ts
18/5/6/3to 55%ts

those are the career per 36 numbers. does it really matter which is which? if anything, it is bledsoe's defense that gets disrespected. at half the price

Jrue was brought in to help stabilize the PG situation in Milwaukee, which he did, he plays insanely good defense and helps add grit to their team.
The Bucks shuffled quite a bit of their roster to prepare for a post season run and Jrue is paying off in a big way for them.
So no, the Bucks were not "significantly worse" this year. They built their team for the post season.

1) jrue is very good as a defender. but "insanely good"? you're just not going to see much that makes you raise your eyebrows from him on that end. bledsoe gets more steals per 36 and as many blocks. which is not to say he's better or even as good as jrue, but you're disrespecting HIM on that end. twice on the all-defensive team vs. three times for jrue
2) jrue has been poor in the nets series
3) the bucks are struggling with a hobbled nets team
4) the bucks were factually substantially worse in the regular season than they were last season. their defense fell from 1st to 10th. where is this grit that you speak of? they've obviously gotten softer

so you're just wrong all around. there's simply no argument that jrue holiday is more than marginally better than eric bledsoe. and the bucks gave up both a whole lot of draft picks and a whole lot of money for that marginal upgrade. foolish. but hey, maybe they felt that they had to shoot themselves in the foot to impress giannis

[dice]

Of course he is available. Or do you think OKC is looking at him as a core piece in a rebuild around SGA? No way, he will be moved again, just as they have moved other highly paid vets.

You’ve just ruined my mood.

I don’t get it, AK’s “all-in” moves have been great so far. Nobody would have pegged us to get Vuce. There hasn’t been any overpaying for past their prime dudes so far.

no other team in the league was willing to make such a "great" trade for vuc. there's a reason for that

teams make the kind of deal the bulls did when they're looking to get over the contention hump quickly (2 years left on vuc's value deal as he passes age 30) . the bulls are not in that position. unless the playoffs are the ultimate goal, it's a bit of a head scratching move

[MAQ]

I'm curious to see what transpired in Dallas. Kind of odd for a team that didn't disappoint to lose a coach and GM. Both were long time tenured in their positions.

The whole story will be interesting. Gambler Bob plays some role. Not sure what that is but the leak a few days ago and then all this fallout isn't a coincidence The whole story will make sense at some point but all we know right now is the Mavs are on fire and no one knows who is yet to blame.

Carlisle quiting would have been eye brow raising...if it werent for me hearing about how gambler Bob even has lineup and rotation influence two days prior to him quiting. That was the eye brow raiser...said it to myself immediately "No way carlisle is happy with that." Him quiting was the puzzle coming together.

I kind of see both sides though. Carlisle probably went along with gambler Bob's influence at the request of Mark because hes a company man. He may have some ego, but it wasnt too large to realize he is the employee, not the employer.

And from Cuban's side, he's future prepping. He's going to see just how far analytics can actually work in the NBA as far as creating a successful team. Because if he can find success in just following computer, his future coaches matter little beyond hist development.

The two parties came together and decided that it just didnt work out and it was time to move on. Dont really blame either side, though Cuban is playing a dangerous game. I never will advocate getting rid of a good coach. Chances of improving the position are slim to none.

[MAQ]

You’ve just ruined my mood.

I don’t get it, AK’s “all-in” moves have been great so far. Nobody would have pegged us to get Vuce. There hasn’t been any overpaying for past their prime dudes so far.

no other team in the league was willing to make such a "great" trade for vuc. there's a reason for that

teams make the kind of deal the bulls did when they're looking to get over the contention hump quickly (2 years left on vuc's value deal as he passes age 30) . the bulls are not in that position. unless the playoffs are the ultimate goal, it's a bit of a head scratching move

With the Hawks a half away from the ECF, I'm just not sure how far off the Bulls actually are. Cuz I feel like we're a better squad than the Hawks.

Now we arent on the tier of a Brooklyn, Lakers or even Clippers, Suns, and Jazz. But you make a move in the playoffs and you may entice more talent to join.