NBA Trade Thread #12

[ChettheJet]

There's close to no way PORT does this. Their pick back isn't truly for 2026, all it is until PORT gets to #15 is flexibility to trade picks. They aren't foolish enough to get that flexibility and then instantly trade it away this year which freezes their 2026 pick

I'm sure they want to move Ayton. They already have more than a full compliment of 2/3 guys so what do they do with Huerter? If they want to get Clingon and Reath experience Collins sits.

There's no way the Bulls trade for Ayton while they still have Vucevic, if they don't make a Vuc trade first the team interested in him and there aren't many has the Bulls blocked in a corner having to trade him

Only a few blow it up posters think the Bulls want to draft 3 rookies this year

[Infinity2152]

Saw a proposed trade, reportedly from Portland league channel, so just a proposal but from Portland' side

Bulls get DeAndre Ayton, pick 11. Portland gets: Kevin Huerter, Zach Collins, 2026 Portland pick. I'd do it. Quickly. Then try to trade that pick for 15 and 24. Have 12, 15, and 24.

Whether this trade happens or not, we should really be trying to trade Portland their pick back and come up. Right now. It has way more value to them than to anybody else, or as a trade throw in. Heck, pick 45 and their 2026 pick might get us pick 11. They get control of their picks again and they still get a rookie this year.

I'm on the fence. First, totally agree that we should get what we can from POR for that pick which has the most value to them. That said, no way do I want 3 rookies on the team. Also, only getting 11 for giving POR back and having to take on a bad salary on a Vuc-like player who doesn't shoot 3's and doesn't defend seems like a bit of a rip-off. Could you imagine having our C position manned by Ayton and Vuc...you are absolutely flushing it down the toilet.

Oh, Vucevic is 100% traded immediately, lol! Ayton might get flipped out too if possible. There are a lot of teams looking for big men, Ayton's probably more attractive to many than Vuc. Not a fan of 3 rookies at the same time, but in this draft we might get the best prospects with the late picks (prsopects like Saraf, Powell, Clifford could be there), and we only have like 6 guaranteed contracts next year anyway. No huge pressure for a 24th pick to get a lot of minutes rookie year.

Ayton is expiring too, according to Spotrac. Now Jeremi Grant has a contract I wouldn't take in that deal. A year of Ayton's money vs Huerter and Collins means little.

And yes, Portland's 2026 pick is locked up for trade. It's also guaranteed that they get it after this deal. And it unlocks first round picks from 2027-2030 for trade. They have a few contracts over there I'm pretty sure they'd attach picks to and try to upgrade. It's important to have access to your firsts for trade for the next 5 years. They're getting a first round pick and control of their future for dropping 34 spots in a draft where they don't have a top 10 pick anyway. Say they get pick 15 next year. They basically get pick 45 2025, pick 15 2026 and control of their picks for pick 11. Plus getting off Ayton's contract, Huerter and Collins contracts are probably far more moveable, and now they'll be able to add picks.

This trade leaves us drafting at 11 and 12. We don't HAVE to draft 3 players. We probably can trade one of the picks and do that if we want to. Of course, we wouldn't want to add KJ and CMB, or Queen and Essengue, or Maluach and Denim in the same draft, right? Not if we have to deal with Ayton for a year. We have so many great players in their way they could never get minutes: Phillips, Terry, Williams, Ayo, Carter, Ball if/when he plays. Sent out Huerter's and Collins minutes in the trade for Ayton's plus rookie minutes. Trying to send out Vucevic's minutes.


There's no way the Bulls should be passing on pre-draft trades because they haven't moved Vucevic yet. They fully intend to trade him. Not to mention, Collins going in the trade is damn near the same money and same effect as moving Vucevic anyway. They're all expiring, y'all are really focused on performance this season, lmao! Vuc would be 35, coming off a PER 20 season. He can play sixth man center for one season if for some insane reason he can't be traded.

[Guru]

Durant to Rockets

Rockets get Jalen Green and Brooks and #10 and 5 seconds

[sco]

Durant to Rockets

Rockets get Jalen Green and Brooks and #10 and 5 seconds

You meant the Sun's get Green, Brooks, #10 and 5 seconds.

That a great deal for Houston...#10 (5 seconds are essentially free). Can't believe Suns couldn't do better? There must be a follow-up deal for one of PHO's 3 SG's.

[Guru]

By my count 10 teams don't have a first round pick

[Infinity2152]

Durant to Rockets

Rockets get Jalen Green and Brooks and #10 and 5 seconds

You meant the Sun's get Green, Brooks, #10 and 5 seconds.

That a great deal for Houston...#10 (5 seconds are essentially free). Can't believe Suns couldn't do better? There must be a follow-up deal for one of PHO's 3 SG's.

Posted yesterday, if the Spurs would add some of those 16 second round picks they have, the deal would probably be done, lol! 5 second round picks is 5 chances to add a quality player to your team. There are good-great players in the second round of pretty much every draft nowadays, with all the international and G-League additional prospects each year and world wide media and information. Would view 5 seconds about the same value as two late firsts flat value, could be more or less depending on how high the seconds and how low the firsts are.

Added those low firsts last year, pick 10, young player and a bunch of seconds this year. Nice young asset increase.

Kind of weird they're saying they're not planning to flip Green. They can't move Beal and they're not moving Booker. Maybe they've talked to Beal about moving him, and he opens up to more teams. They have more assets to add to him now. They also have Grayson Allen and Cody Martin, basically SG's. Their salary is at $256 mill now with Dillon Brooks as starting PF and Nick Richards as starting center.

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[ChettheJet]

I don't believe for a second ORL offered even half that at any time. That's close to what HOU gave for a Hall of Fame player. Two 1sts for an expiring contract of a non all star is laughable, even if they wanted to clear Anthony they have waited on Isaac the same way the Bulls did on Lonzo, they wouldn't have extended hip just to get rid of him.

[2weekswithpay]

Yeah, I don't believe that. The Magic haven't been active on the trade market for a while. Before the Bane trade, their last big move was trading Vuc and Gordon back in 2021. I don't see them as a team that would aggressively want White enough to offer two FRPs.

[Muzbar]

Yeah, I don't believe that. The Magic haven't been active on the trade market for a while. Before the Bane trade, their last big move was trading Vuc and Gordon back in 2021. I don't see them as a team that would aggressively want White enough to offer two FRPs.

I think that was before the Bane trade, to which they turned their sights on Bane.

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[MrSparkle]

I don't believe for a second ORL offered even half that at any time. That's close to what HOU gave for a Hall of Fame player. Two 1sts for an expiring contract of a non all star is laughable, even if they wanted to clear Anthony they have waited on Isaac the same way the Bulls did on Lonzo, they wouldn't have extended hip just to get rid of him.

That’s not even close to the Rockets offer. #10 is way better than #16 in this draft, and most drafts. It’s not uncommon for a better pick to bust, but generally speaking, top-10 FRPs are drastically higher value trade chips on draft night than anything outside the lottery. Also, Isaac’s trips to the knee surgeon make Lonzo look like a healthy guy. Anthony is a scrub replacement guard who’s expiring, and couldn’t sniff vet min Cory freaking Joseph’s minutes in a playoff game.

Green and Brooks are overpaid, but they’re 2 healthy, legit starters. Suns are in play for a high-talent drop (Queen, Kasparas).

I think that rumored Orlando offer was fair for both sides… but also believe Coby can net 1 definitive good player in return, as opposed to a bunch of low-probability darts. Hornets’ Mark Williams might be an interesting swap.

[dpucane]

With this Hali injury I have a really bad feeling about AK going all in on someone like Jaylen Brown.

[NecessaryEvil]

With this Hali injury I have a really bad feeling about AK going all in on someone like Jaylen Brown.

Feel bad about acquiring Jaylen Brown?!?

Huh?

[dpucane]

With this Hali injury I have a really bad feeling about AK going all in on someone like Jaylen Brown.

Feel bad about acquiring Jaylen Brown?!?

Huh?

If Bane got 4 1sts and a swap what do you think a Jaylen package would be?

Coby and 5 1sts?

I think the package AK would give up for Jaylen, who gets them to a perennial 6-7 seed, would be a gross overpay that sets them back another 5-10 years

Also Jaylen I think is a fraud star

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[2weekswithpay]

Bane is cheaper than Brown. 40M AAV vs 57M AAV. There isn't a big difference in talent between the two, either IMO. Any team that goes all in on Brown is going to regret it.

[patryk7754]

With haliburton out for at least until April (but maybe even the whole year) we should reach out and see if they’d want lonzo

[Infinity2152]

NGL, I've been a big pusher for a Jaylen Brown trade for awhile. That post just made me look at his shooting numbers. Over the last 4 years, he's averaged about 34% from 3. He shot 32% last year. I did not know he was shooting that bad. Love the overall player, but no to a guard making that money who's a below average shooter. It's Derrick White, Jrue Holiday plus assets or Porzingas for Vucevic at this point as far as the Celtics.

[sco]

NGL, I've been a big pusher for a Jaylen Brown trade for awhile. That post just made me look at his shooting numbers. Over the last 4 years, he's averaged about 34% from 3. He shot 32% last year. I did not know he was shooting that bad. Love the overall player, but no to a guard making that money who's a below average shooter. It's Derrick White, Jrue Holiday plus assets or Porzingas for Vucevic at this point as far as the Celtics.

Yeah, from everything I've read, BOS is committed to keeping White/Tatum/Brown core (and they should). Shedding Holiday (probably with assets because his deal is so bad) or KP should be doable. I think KP would be a big win for us, but I think his age would be a problem in a year of two. Holiday is better than he showed last year (too many guys who needed shots), but he's too old to be worth that contract.

[JRoy]

Saw a proposed trade, reportedly from Portland league channel, so just a proposal but from Portland' side

Bulls get DeAndre Ayton, pick 11. Portland gets: Kevin Huerter, Zach Collins, 2026 Portland pick. I'd do it. Quickly. Then try to trade that pick for 15 and 24. Have 12, 15, and 24.

Whether this trade happens or not, we should really be trying to trade Portland their pick back and come up. Right now. It has way more value to them than to anybody else, or as a trade throw in. Heck, pick 45 and their 2026 pick might get us pick 11. They get control of their picks again and they still get a rookie this year.

POR politely declines.

No need to move a lotto pick for Ayton who expires this time next year, what will likely be a SRP and bench players.